MetaChat - Need non-girlie pics in the margin.

I'm secure with my masculinity.

posted by mischief 28 February | 22:39

OK, maybe I'm not the best one to ask about that.

posted by mischief 28 February | 22:39

doohickie, lots of cars & vibrant colors = 3 year old males.

posted by mygothlaundry 28 February | 22:44

I thought sporkman on the right was pretty macho. And doesn't the top left pastiche show a pin-up girl from 1880? Hubba hubba,

posted by wendell 28 February | 22:48

*shoves flower down Doohickie's throat, buries his corpse in garden to grow more dahlias*

posted by weretable and the undead chairs 28 February | 22:49

Or just new labels for the title bar:

METACHAT: FUCK YEAH! NEW SHIT || MY SHIT || FIND SHIT || FUCK OFF || PIX 'N SHIT || LATEST SHIT

posted by hangashore 28 February | 22:51

This reminds me of my boyfriend's desire for someone to make 'manly' travel kleenex packages. It seems you can only get ones with flowers on the packages. He wants ones with boobs and guns on the packages.

posted by youngergirl44 28 February | 22:53

Doohickie: This place posts OMG BUNNIES, ferchrissake!

posted by mischief 28 February | 22:53

In other words: WHAT IS THIS TRIPE????

Doohickie, will you ever be happy with the design of this site? Can you just acknowledge that you never will be and maybe stop talking about it? Kthx.

posted by mudpuppie 28 February | 23:08

He wants ones with boobs and guns on the packages.

Boobs make all packages better.

posted by DaShiv 28 February | 23:08

He wants ones with boobs and guns on the packages.

How about a kleenex package shaped like a boob? which would of course necessitate the use of more kleenex. It's a winner all around.

posted by jonmc 28 February | 23:10

I am also secure enough in my masculinity to not be bothered by the wimmen wanting to pretty the place up a bit. It's what they do, you know.

Also, quityerbitchin' ;-)

posted by dg 28 February | 23:15

This is intolerably girly! Let's create a site called MachoChat, where we run around carrying spears and wearing loincloths and can only post feral grunts and bodily eruptions and...

now I've gone and got myself all excited, dammit...

posted by jonmc 28 February | 23:16

Speaking of boobs.

Today, while driving past Hooters I commented to my husband, "I can't believe Hooters has stayed in business this long. The food sucks." Husband gave a bewildered look.

posted by LoriFLA 28 February | 23:16

Y'all are being all flippant and shit, and I commend you. But I need to say more.

Doohickie: Every time the design of the site changes, you bitch about it.

What I'd like to say is: Dude, there are big changes in life. Some of them are nasty and hurtful. Some of them warrant keening and wailing. But website design? Really?

Please. Grow up.

And if, by chance, you were being sarcastic in posting this? Find another topic. There's too much history with you and this. It's just not funny.

Jeezus.

posted by mudpuppie 28 February | 23:20

Lori, I didn't actually visit a Hooters until I lived in Dade County for a while around the turn of the milennium. The average woman walking down the street in Miami was exposing more flesh than a Hooters girl, plus there are strip clubs and nude beaches all over the place down there, making the whole exercise kind of pointless, except for the beer. Plus my waitress had a shiner. My experience may not be typical.

posted by jonmc 28 February | 23:21

I kinda like Hooters...

posted by youngergirl44 28 February | 23:25

Exactly jonmc. Skimpily-clad, attractive women are a dime a dozen. Hooters must be doing something right, it's always packed.

posted by LoriFLA 28 February | 23:28

Really, youngergirl? I'm a big fan of the unrefined, but even I'm not a big fan of theirs, mainly because when I ordered peel and eat shrimp there, the whole plateful seemed to have been caught right after a holiday feast or something. Blech.

Skimpily-clad, attractive women are a dime a dozen. Hooters must be doing something right, it's always packed.

It's for people too chicken (or cheap) to hit a strip club or who don't have a decent neighborhood bar, is all I can figure.

posted by jonmc 28 February | 23:30

Speaking of the unrefined. It takes a lot of balls to name your strip club Biggins.

posted by LoriFLA 28 February | 23:35

I'm posting this wearing my prettiest pinafore.

posted by Divine_Wino 28 February | 23:36

No you're not. You loaned it to me for the tea dance Friday.

posted by jonmc 28 February | 23:39

I'm posting this wearing my prettiest pinafore.

Yeah, but that's just to keep the shit & diesel off your suit, right?

posted by GeckoDundee 28 February | 23:42

His suit is made of shit and diesel, motherfucker.

posted by jonmc 28 February | 23:43

Come to think of it, other than Stripper Web, MeCha has the highest female/male ratio of all my usual sites. I'm not complainin'.

posted by mischief 28 February | 23:45

Lol. That sounds like it should be a line in a Tom Waits song. What's He Building in There, or something along those lines.

posted by GeckoDundee 28 February | 23:47

Yeah, I like it. It's kinda sports-bar-ish and it draws such a strange lot there's always someone to peoplewatch. They send orders to the kitchen on a zip line thing. That's kinda cool. Plus, if I can't find a job soon I'm going to have to apply there... according to the BF. These things are a pain anyway, might as well put them to work.

/me owns hooters shirt

posted by youngergirl44 28 February | 23:54

so "manliness" = cars, and "womanliness" = flowers. got it.

here's a better idea: instead of cars and trucks and primary colors, how about a ROBOT-THEMED design! i think all of us will agree that ROBOTS are awesome, and pictures of robots are pretty sweet too. so, with MORE ROBOTS, the website would then look TOTALLY AWESOME... and everyone could be happy. it's win-win

posted by Wedge 01 March | 00:05

His suit is made of shit and diesel, motherfucker.

That would be the low point of my new job.

posted by shane 01 March | 00:21

oh, and: robots rock. i'm working on one for mecha. but i'm very slow. procrastination, not actual lethargy.

posted by shane 01 March | 00:23

Only if they're Hooters Robots in Flower Power Cars.

posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson 01 March | 00:23

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posted by danostuporstar 01 March | 00:32

You know what else ain't girlie?

Poop.

posted by danostuporstar 01 March | 00:40

I still miss the rabbit head.

and I'd be in favor of robots. These pictures are too The New Yoga Journal of Business (or something) for me. You know- those magazines that advocate a quirky, simple life while raking in millions and buying eco-correct $4,000 coffee tables.

posted by small_ruminant 01 March | 00:50

Can we have robots destroying cities? Please?

posted by cmonkey 01 March | 01:19

It's for people too chicken (or cheap) to hit a strip club or who don't have a decent neighborhood bar, is all I can figure.

Well, in one way you're right jon. Not everyone lives in NYC and can walk to their local bar. There's also different ideas of what makes a good bar, not to mention that hooters isn't even trying to be what I'm thinking you call a good bar. And strip clubs? Apples and oranges.

I find their food decent, relatively cheap, and the girls normally pretty. Different strokes.

posted by justgary 01 March | 01:20

To hell with Hooters! Give me a babe in a Burger King uniform anytime.

posted by mischief 01 March | 02:56

mudpuppie: With all due respect, quit the personal attacks and shut the hell up. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH NOT LIKING THE WAY SOMETHING LOOKS.

I'm still not really into the redesign either. Wanna fight about it?

posted by kyleg 01 March | 04:33

girlzone!!!!

This reminds me of my boyfriend's desire for someone to make 'manly' travel kleenex packages.

In the UK, Kimberly-Clark (what a manly name) actually sells Kleenex for Men. But they aren't small travel packages. And the only people I've ever seen have them are women.

posted by grouse 01 March | 06:55

'machochat' is hilarious! Aaaarggggh. If I didn't have a million things to do, I would so love to do a design for that. Heh.

posted by taz 01 March | 07:02

Can we have robots destroying cities? Please?

a robot and pals destroying stuff

posted by auntbunny 01 March | 07:47

I vote for chainsaws. And dirt. And maybe some jalapenos.

posted by chewatadistance 01 March | 08:29

Oooh oooh! Or maybe the background can be like the original bunny, but instead of a bunny a giant bloody steak!

that would be manly.

posted by gaspode 01 March | 08:53

Maybe some manly stuff like leather chaps, vaseline, frambotinis, and Brando?

posted by Hugh Janus 01 March | 09:20

Patchouli and espresso?

posted by mischief 01 March | 09:48

Lumber and tools. Nothing manlier than lumber.

posted by mygothlaundry 01 March | 09:52

Agreed MGL. Lumber and a fancy table saw. And electronics. There must be electronics.

posted by LoriFLA 01 March | 09:57

I've got a lot to learn about manliness.

posted by box 01 March | 09:58

Well, there's a reason they call it a woodie, box. ;-)

posted by mygothlaundry 01 March | 10:04

I think I've got the opposite problem as famous rapper Lil' Wayne.

See, Wayne doesn't know a whole lot about gay people or gay culture, so I don't think he realizes that some people might interpret (for example) songs about leather, group names like 'Hot Boys' and kissing some dude you call your 'daddy' as, y'know, kinda queer.

I, on the other hand, am incapable of seeing the straightness in such things as pink polo shirts, Harley-Davidsons and professional wrestling.

posted by box 01 March | 10:18

I vote for chainsaws. And dirt. And maybe some jalapenos.

What a fucking girl. . .gotta be habaneros. Or carpet tacks.

posted by danf 01 March | 10:25

Yeah, everything "manly" i can think of is pretty gay. Pretty, pretty gay.

posted by ethylene 01 March | 10:30

Habaneros? Pshaw. Bhut Jolokia.

posted by box 01 March | 10:41

And the dirt better be dirty, dammit. None of that 'earthy' crap.

posted by danostuporstar 01 March | 10:50

The thing that offends me about Hooters is their buildings (well the one here anyways). It looks like the sort of tacky strip mall in which you find autoparts stores and pawnshops.

ROU_Xenophobe had a great example of manly=gay a couple years ago.

posted by Mitheral 01 March | 11:09

Dammit. I wish I had bitched last month when there was user art by Shane and me3dia up on the sidebar. Menfolk! Art by menfolk! Two in a row! It was crazy. I was kind of threatened. It felt like I was absorbing testosterone every single time I visited here.

Thanks for reminding me to complain about it next time it happens, Doohickie.

posted by iconomy 01 March | 11:15

Oh, by the way, does anyone here have cooties?

posted by iconomy 01 March | 11:17

I prefer that mossy crap over the earthy crap.

posted by mischief 01 March | 11:19

It felt like I was absorbing testosterone every single time I visited here.

This might be less troublesome, ico.

*runs out quickly*

posted by danf 01 March | 11:28

Hah. Are you going to apply it, or do you just rub stuff on jrossi?

posted by iconomy 01 March | 11:33

Y'all are being all flippant and shit, and I commend you. But I need to say more.

Doohickie: Every time the design of the site changes, you bitch about it.

What I'd like to say is: Dude, there are big changes in life. Some of them are nasty and hurtful. Some of them warrant keening and wailing. But website design? Really?

Please. Grow up.

And if, by chance, you were being sarcastic in posting this? Find another topic. There's too much history with you and this. It's just not funny.

Jeezus.

I wasn't being sarcastic, but I didn't intend my post as an assault on the site design either. It was JUST AN IDEA.

One of the features of the current site design is it incorporates changeable art. The idea behind this, I think, is to encourage creativeness (or highlight the creativeness of the members). I will admit to not being the most creative of people. I just threw what I thought was a creative idea out there; I didn't mean any harm by it, nor was the intent to criticize the site design. In fact, I was trying to creatively embrace the site design.

I was just offering a suggestion toward a temporary theme. Like, maybe we could do a Photo Friday with a theme of "Manly Manliness" and let the results adorn the site for a day or two.

I'm sorry that people think I hate the design of this place, because I really don't.

posted by Doohickie 01 March | 12:17

Shake it off, Doohickie. You just got checked into the boards by the enforcer, that's all. Your line's back on the ice in a minute. Sniff those salts and get your skates back on.

posted by Hugh Janus 01 March | 12:25

Doohickie, did you not notice weretable's response? Are you really not aware that that is his art, a photo he took of a flower he grew, master gardener that he is? Are you seeing the pronoun I'm using here? Don't you then think that at least a playful apology is in order? Weretable is a GUY. Who grows plants. And photographs them, rather extremely well for that matter.

I mean, I'm sorry, and I was trying to be flippant myself, after erasing a couple of really not so happy replies last night that were not dissimilar to mudpuppies. You have history here, dude, and it is not good history. Step back. This isn't your site. If you want to design another site, go for it. Link to it. Show us the manly art. But the basic fact is that this site has a couple of administrators and a brilliant designer in Taz and they are a) good at their VOLUNTEER jobs and b) kind enough to let us play here. Criticizing the look of a free playground is tacky to begin with. To criticize it on some kind of really, really weird sexist idea of what constitutes masculine vs. feminine artwork is truly bizarre and I could go on with that one, because actually I don't like the implications in that one little bit, but, okay, I won't.

Look, I hardly ever get mad and I hardly ever bitch back, but mudpuppie is so, so right here - you need to back off this particular hobbyhorse of yours.

posted by mygothlaundry 01 March | 12:28

1) I just noticed the link to "Current sidebar art" under the "Site News:" menu is out of date. (The real 'current' art is also linked there, though.)

2) I do think I'll submit a "woodie wagon" graphic sometime for taz's consideration on behalf of Mr. Hickie. Isn't it damn cool that the site design allows for that possibility?

posted by danostuporstar 01 March | 12:39

I actually like the girly stuff.

posted by goodnewsfortheinsane 01 March | 12:45

you want manly, doohickie? I give you a three-meat breakfast sandwich with cheese, Superbowl Sunday beer drinking, and hostile bumper stickers on a men's room mirror. I don't know how much more manly I can get...
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posted by jonmc 01 March | 12:45

bacardi silver: manly?

(as long as we're stereotyping here)

posted by gaspode 01 March | 12:49

the artifical flavor compliments yellow cheese nicely, dammit! I switch to Bud right after.

posted by jonmc 01 March | 12:50

He drinks the Bacardi Silver Raz out of the Virgin glass, just like John Wayne.

posted by box 01 March | 12:50

I was dragged to a Hooters for lunch a few years ago by some co-workers with the promise of good hot wings (a particular weakness of mine).

It was loud. Really, really loud. The music was pumped way up, and the employees were all shouting and hooping and hollering the whole damn time, and the place had a bad echo to begin with. I left with a terrible headache and a vow never to return.

Oh - and the wings were sub-par.

posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson 01 March | 12:50

Okay, I've never been, but I can say with total confidence that if somebody tells you that the wings are good at Hooter's, you can pretty much disregard every single wing-related thing they say for the rest of their life.

posted by box 01 March | 12:52

except of course "The airplane lost a wing! we're going to crash!"

(I kid. Hooters wings do indeed suck monkey ass. The best wings are the "ugly" wings at this joint in New Haven)

posted by jonmc 01 March | 12:55

So, erm, back to Kleenex. Why can't I get plain boxes of Kleenex? Just white, or just blue, or just any ONE colour. Argh, drives me nuts that I can't get boxes to coordinate with my decor.

Oh, and Doohickie? Those are my feet you're objecting to. I can't begin to convey how thrilled I was to see something I made (the photograph) was being used as part of MetaChat's design.

posted by deborah 01 March | 12:56

Yeah, um, I was wondering whose feet they were. When I said I like the girly stuff, I meant I like the girly feet. Your girly feet, as it turns out.

Don't mind me, it's a Thing.

posted by goodnewsfortheinsane 01 March | 13:04

That came out creepily, didn't it?

Oh well.

*sulks*

posted by goodnewsfortheinsane 01 March | 13:08

Seemed soleful to me.

posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson 01 March | 13:13

Toe-tally sweet, really.

posted by mygothlaundry 01 March | 13:18

but a bit corn-y.

posted by jonmc 01 March | 13:22

I see everyone's instep with each other and each others puns.

but anyway, given the request for a more metamacho name and the need of some "Hooters" related theming, I was thinking we should call it MetaTassles.

sheesh.
That was probably the most forced foot related pun I've ever made. Feel free to give me a kicking.

posted by seanyboy 01 March | 13:53

I thought you nailed it, seanyboy. A bit arch, perhaps, but you're no heel.

posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson 01 March | 13:55

Pedantics.

posted by iconomy 01 March | 14:06

No fair. Flo is bogarting the puns; I think it's time we put our foot down.

posted by taz 01 March | 14:14

Someone had better come along and make all you punsters toe the line.

*ruuuuuuuuuns away, flailing*

posted by TrishaLynn 01 March | 14:18

I get a kick out of you, too, tootsie!

posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson 01 March | 14:19

My Hooters story, as previously posted on MetaFilter:

A few years ago, I was in Charlotte, N.C., visiting my father in the hospital. He was in bad shape, and I was feeling sad, lonely, and hungry after having spent the entire day next to his bed. I had no desire to go to a strip bar, but the, um, ambiance at Hooters was perfect. The girls were almost Geisha-like, serving food and drink, looking purty, and lending an ear for an hour or so. I haven’t been back since, but I thoroughly enjoyed that one visit.

My only other experience with the fine establishment was when a friend brought two buckets of wings to my wedding reception-thingie:

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posted by mrmoonpie 01 March | 14:20

Aww, you guys used up all the good ones! You'd have to be a legend to come up with a foot pun now, like John Henry or Paul Bunyan.

posted by Hugh Janus 01 March | 14:38

Just don't slip into the asphalt.

posted by mischief 01 March | 14:57

MetaTarsal

posted by Hugh Janus 01 March | 15:34

Why can't I get plain boxes of Kleenex?

You need to make a box cozy.

posted by Mitheral 01 March | 15:36

AKA a coozie cozy...

posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson 01 March | 15:37

penis.

posted by sciurus 01 March | 16:59

A few years ago, I was in Charlotte, N.C., visiting my father in the hospital. He was in bad shape, and I was feeling sad, lonely, and hungry after having spent the entire day next to his bed. I had no desire to go to a strip bar, but the, um, ambiance at Hooters was perfect. The girls were almost Geisha-like, serving food and drink, looking purty, and lending an ear for an hour or so. I haven’t been back since, but I thoroughly enjoyed that one visit.
posted by mrmoonpie

Nice story. You're the first person who's described hooters in any way that jives with the times I've been. Nice to balance out the IVE NEVER BEEN BUT THE WINGS SUCK!!11 and jon comparing it to a strip joint. Just bizarre.

posted by justgary 01 March | 22:19

I ~~hate~~ love you all.

The only reason I haven't done box coozies ..er.. cozies is, well, have you seen them? Lace and fake flowers and bows, oh my! Talk about tacky as only a little ol' lady can be tacky. I ain't ready to be little ol' lady crazy. However, the boxes Mitheral linked to are really pretty.

posted by deborah 02 March | 12:15

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