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18 January 2008

Juno. Unicorn and I both disliked it very, very much.[More:]

The bastard spawn of Napoleon Dynamite and Garden State. Self-aware characterizations have reached an all time low.

All. Time. Low. Alltimelow.

No meat, no bite, just over-polished snarkiness set to a dull and unimaginative soundtrack. Yes, Ellen Page, you do a fine impersonation of Darlene from television's Roseanne.

The worst film either one of us has seen in at least a year - and we watch (and like) a lot of movies. That's all, really.
Oh, and Michael Cera really needs to learn a new shtick sometime in the near future.
posted by item 18 January | 14:18
I enjoyed it, but I didn't love it- I think you're right, the characters didn't have a lot of meat, just a lot of cute things to say.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 18 January | 14:20
Dude from Law & Order was good in it, though.
posted by box 18 January | 14:23
I have a friend who also saw it this month and also hates it to a similar degree.

I still haven't, but the hate tempts me like I'm Luke Skywalker chatting it up with Emperor Palpatine.
posted by pokermonk 18 January | 14:25
I hated the dad. I mean, not one of this lines was out of the "smartass" zone.

I fully understand all the criticism of this movie, and at the same time, I had a great time watching it.

Go figure.
posted by danf 18 January | 14:26
I disagree. I thought it was brilliant and it made teen pregnancy seem fun again - not the pain in the ass I remember it being.

And with Zoey pregnant and all those pregnant stars....buy stock in Gerber; that's all I'm saying.
posted by stynxno 18 January | 14:30
Dude from Law & Order was good in it, though.

You mean the guy from Oz. (He will always be Vern Shillinger to me and he will always be effing terrifying.)

I haven't seen Juno. Probably won't. It does seem to have that "choke on my quirk!" kind of forced cleverness that irks me.

But lay off Michael Cera. I want to be his Mrs. Robinson.
posted by jrossi4r 18 January | 14:40
I typed Oz first, but then started to worry that nobody actually watched Oz.

It does seem to have that "choke on my quirk!" kind of forced cleverness that irks me.

Well said.

I have a very reflexive distaste for all this fake-indie stuff being sold to people who can't tell the difference between Fugazi and Fall Out Boy. Tom Frank and Douglas Rushkoff, among others, do a good job of explicating, and criticizing, this marketing-of-cool/business-of-rebellion stuff.

(Diablo Cody's stripper book is pretty good, though.)
posted by box 18 January | 14:56
I put the things I didn't like about it in the weekend thread. For fucks sake Real Women have Curves had a condom buying scene!
posted by brujita 18 January | 15:00
Oh, thank god, there are other people who watched Oz. I saw Juno and was telling my friends that J.K. Simmons would always be a creepy Aryan Nation sadistic killer for me, and they had no idea what I was talking about.
posted by Lassie 18 January | 15:11
J.K. Simmons would always be a creepy Aryan Nation sadistic killer for me

I know! I can't see him in anything without wanting to yell, "Get away from him before he tattoos a swastika on your ass!"

And Chris Meloni will always be Keller to me. They have a little interstitial on Noggin (a channel for pre-schoolers) where he reads a poem called "My Toes Are Out to Get Me" and it CREEPS ME OUT.

Sample lines:
Yes all week long they torture me, getting me into this jam or that scrape.
They follow me every place I go, from ones toes there's no escape.
So if it seems like I've done wrong, sometime when we may meet.
Remember that its not my fault, its those fiends at the end of my feet!


Totally psycho when Keller reads it.
posted by jrossi4r 18 January | 15:28
The bastard spawn of Napoleon Dynamite and Garden State.

I thought Juno did a good job dealing with the quirk where both of these movies were pretty ham-handed (though that's what made ND funny, I think. It was the inundation of impersonations after the movie that killed it for me).

And what's the point in starting a thread to announce that you dislike something? I don't mind, really, even though I can't suppress the burning anger I have when someone says they dislike something I like (especially when the OP is someone whose taste I generally respect, like item). But the impulse to make a post like this just seems so foreign to me.
posted by mullacc 18 January | 15:28
My husband would like Juno.

Which is good, because he reallyreallyreally wants to go see 27 Dresses. (gag. me. with. a. spork.)

posted by bunnyfire 18 January | 15:43
I liked it. It made me laugh and that's all I ever want a movie to do. I do enough thinking at work that I tend to not want to during play.
posted by LunaticFringe 18 January | 16:05
Dunno - disliked it to suck an usual degree that I felt like sharing. Kind of like if I accidentally cut my leg off with a chainsaw, I'd probably end up making a post about it.
posted by item 18 January | 16:11
I don't know where that 'suck' came from. Truly sorry.
posted by item 18 January | 16:13
I actually really liked that turn of phrase -- "disliked it to the degree of suck," is how I read it.

Like that old Wammo spoken-word album, "Faster than the Speed of Suck." Gotta love a Wammo reference.
posted by mudpuppie 18 January | 16:17
And a timely reference it was indeed, mudpuppie.
posted by Atom Eyes 18 January | 16:22
Wrong Wammo! You should know better, Atom Eyes, you Austinite you!
posted by mudpuppie 18 January | 16:23
Kind of like if I accidentally cut my leg off with a chainsaw, I'd probably end up making a post about it.

Fine, but don't think you can keep me from taking this circular saw to my big toe! I don't care if that makes me a hipster or not!
posted by mullacc 18 January | 16:27
mudpuppie: I'll go spank myself now.
posted by Atom Eyes 18 January | 16:39
Much better, atom eyes.
posted by mudpuppie 18 January | 16:58
I have no interest in seeing this movie, mainly because I like to think that had I become a stripper/screenwriter, I would have used the name Diablo Cody first.
posted by scody 18 January | 20:02
you do a fine impersonation of Darlene from television's Roseanne.

I had a serious crush on Darlene.
posted by jonmc 18 January | 20:27
but the hate tempts me like I'm Luke Skywalker chatting it up with Emperor Palpatine.
posted by pokermonk 18 January | 14:25


Ok, that I like. I may have to use that in conversation. (Giving you all due credit, of course.)
posted by Zack_Replica 18 January | 21:42
i haven't seen it yet, i just wanted to say i can't help but always call J. K. Simmons that skinhead rapist guy whether he's a sensitive psychiatrist or a hard nosed boss, etc. And Keller was the best work Meloni ever did. Everything he does is just shades of Keller and never as good as when he's luring some guy in for the last best blow job he'll ever give.
posted by ethylene 18 January | 22:28
What I did like is that the cheerleader best friend wasn't a snot.
posted by brujita 19 January | 03:06
I didn't hate it deeply, but I didn't see what everyone's raving about. It was an extremely conventional movie with a manufactured overlay of hipster. The script was overwritten and sitcom-like - every response a snappy comeback, no one ever unruffled or off balance. It felt like an endless epsiode of "The Gilmore Girls." It was pretty light and flip for what is actually a very tough experience to go through. And the depiction of women's health care was pretty lame - the way the abortion clinic was portrayed was particularly reprehensible to me, as was the way the plot hinged on the girl's encounter with a protestor outside and the talk about fingernails. I kind of didn't like that the movie seemed to endorse picketing a clinic as an effective strategy. The ultrasound tech also said things that were unrealistically unprofessional.

It was just a movie, but I guess I was hoping this would redeem 'Knocked Up' as an unwanted-pregnancy story and be funny but realistic. It wasn't. It was flip and simplistic, and didn't have a lot of heart.

The product placement for Sunny D was kinda heavy handed, too.
posted by Miko 19 January | 14:08
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