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30 October 2007

I love Raymond Chandler [More:]That is all.
I'm with ya, small_ruminant. Have you read any Jim Thompson?
posted by elizard 30 October | 17:10
"I needed a drink, I needed a lot of life insurance, I needed a vacation, I needed a home in the country. What I had was a coat, a hat and a gun." Farewell, My Lovely (Chapter 34)
posted by Divine_Wino 30 October | 17:23
"I called him from a phone booth. The voice that answered was fat. It wheezed softly, like the voice of a man who had just won a pie-eating contest."--"Trouble Is My Business" (Section 2)
posted by Divine_Wino 30 October | 17:26
nope, no Jim Thompson. I'll check him out.
posted by small_ruminant 30 October | 17:37
Also, early James M. Cain.
posted by mudpuppie 30 October | 17:39
Found a "Chandlerism" website.

Yup. No bosses today.
posted by small_ruminant 30 October | 17:49
A friend turned me on to Thompson a couple of years ago, and I can't recommend him highly enough if you're into that genre. I started with Pop. 1280, which turned out to be a good beginning; that or The Getaway, though you can't really go wrong with any of them.

*makes note to seek out more Chandler on her next trip to town*
posted by elizard 30 October | 17:55
This thread hits me as though it is a hot kiss at the end of a wet fist.
posted by danf 30 October | 18:03
This thread hits me as though it is a hot kiss at the end of a wet fist.


But what about my pickle?!
posted by bmarkey 30 October | 18:08
Though I don't really understand her
I love my sister, her name's Miranda
The boys from uptown they can't stand her
The more she denies them the more they demand her
But she just wants to lay in bed all night
Reading Raymond Chandler
- Jim Carroll
posted by jonmc 30 October | 18:47
Thanks for reminding me - it's about time for me to go back and re-read Chandler again.

"She's a charming middle age lady with a face like a bucket of mud and if she's washed her hair since Coolidge's second term, I'll eat my spare tire, rim and all." -- Farewell, My Lovely (Chapter 6)
posted by bmarkey 30 October | 19:26
The Collected Stories hardcover that's put out by Knopf is an excellent way to get a whole lot of Chandler at a low price--you get a few stories that aren't detective stories, and a few that are clearly dry runs for his novels.
posted by Prospero 30 October | 19:32
If you like Chandler you may also like Ross Macdonald. Lew Archer is a bit more blue collar than Marlowe, but they're cut from the same cloth. His books are getting hard to find, but used book stores seem to have lots of them.

jonmc, are you a Jim Carroll fan? I saw him on the "tour" for his first album. Great show in a tiny club. His second album wasn't so hot (IMO) but that first one is really strong.
posted by doctor_negative 30 October | 20:05
jonmc, are you a Jim Carroll fan?

Oh yeah. and you're right Catholic Boy is his one good album, but damn is it good.
posted by jonmc 30 October | 20:38
The Big Sleep has one of my favorite opening paragraphs:

It was about eleven o'clock in the morning, mid October, with the sun not shining and a look of hard wet rain in the clearness of the foothills. I was wearing my powder-blue suit, with dark blue shirt, tie and display handkerchief, black brogues, black wool socks with dark blue clocks on them. I was neat, clean, shaved and sober, and I didn't care who knew it. I was everything the well-dressed private detective ought to be. I was calling on four million dollars.

posted by octothorpe 30 October | 20:50
You have to mention Dashiell Hammett here too: The Maltese Falcon, The Continental Op and Red Harvest are all great books and pre-date Chandler by a decade or so.
posted by octothorpe 30 October | 20:56
Oh hell yeah to Hammett, also David Goodis (Shoot the Piano Player) my darlings and eventually Charles Willeford (Cockfighter on through the Hoke Mosley Series, not to ignore The Burnt Orange Heresy and The Shark Infested Custard) and then dip down to the great works of Chester Himes (Cotton Comes to Harlem and a million others, want a great title: Blind Man With a Pistol) from there wild out, there is so much great American noir, before we even touch the European stuff and parts East, Maybe I should make a post.
posted by Divine_Wino 30 October | 23:15
I just finished Farewell, My Lovely today, and I was sorry to see the end of it.

And now I have "People Who Died" in my head for the night.
posted by Elsa 31 October | 02:11
You know whose noir gets overlooked too often? Hemingway.

(Also, Hitler.)

Y'know, since my traditional Thompson-stumping position has been taken.



posted by klangklangston 31 October | 02:17
New phone negotiations...arg || Keep your fingers crossed for me.

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