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15 November 2006

Question for Law & Order fans [More:]
D'Onofrio or Meloni? I'm a D'Onofrio fan. (and Waterston for me is untouchable)
posted by matteo 15 November | 14:13
Meloni. D'onofrio's too fucking clever.
posted by jonmc 15 November | 14:15
All of the above.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson 15 November | 14:18
Meloni's character is is a self-righteous hothead prick who likes to beat up pervs before they're found guilty by due process of law. D'Onfrio's character is some weird Asperger's who inexplicably also understands human motivations. Waterston's character is an ethical lawyer.
posted by orthogonality 15 November | 14:18
Ethical lawyers are great in real life but they don't make for interesting entertainment.
posted by jonmc 15 November | 14:21
The most entertaining parts of the show are when Waterston's ethics come in conflict with a desire to convict, or the politics of his elected bosses. By entertaining, I mean thought-provoking, because that's what entertains me.
posted by orthogonality 15 November | 14:23
I'll take Michael Moriarty over Waterston. Meloni over D'Onofrio, barely (Ohrbach, or Belzer, over either one of 'em). Meloni was great in Wet Hot American Summer, though.

And you didn't mention Steven Hill vs. Dianne Weist vs. Fred Thompson because it's just too obvious, right?
posted by box 15 November | 14:30
of course, come on. Hill 4ever
posted by matteo 15 November | 14:36
and ortho has a point, D'Onofrio's character has this borderline-autistic thing going on that's really interesting. he's an awesome actor (I mean, Full Metal Jacket). too bad his ex-wife says he's an asshole in real life. but then, she went on to marry her first cousin, so who knows
posted by matteo 15 November | 14:38
Hill's the best of 'em, but some of his cliches wore thin. Whenever he appeared on screen, me and pips would intone "Make a deal," in a vaguely Yiddish accent.
posted by jonmc 15 November | 14:38
Supposedly D'Onfrio's also a rabid-Bush hater in real life, so much so he'd curse Bush on the set, so I say good on him.
posted by orthogonality 15 November | 14:40
too bad his ex-wife says he's an asshole in real life...

Supposedly D'Onfrio's also a rabid-Bush hater in real life, so much so he'd curse Bush on the set, so I say good on him.


Well, I guess the final verdict on D'onofrio comes down to whether you find holding the right politics or actually being a good human being more important.
posted by jonmc 15 November | 14:43
really? yay for D'Onofrio!

anecdotal evidence: my mom, a woman usually uninterested in television except for the news, but who became the greatest L&O fan evar, can't stand D'Onofrio, likes Meloni A LOT, worships at the altar of Waterston, whom she'd like to run for President of the United States
posted by matteo 15 November | 14:43
(and of course, giovanni, it's all about the right politics)
posted by matteo 15 November | 14:44
I sincerely hope your being sarcastic.
posted by jonmc 15 November | 14:46
well, waterston does look Prsidential. He'd look really great on currency.
posted by jonmc 15 November | 14:47
The right politics affects the world, jon! Being a good human being usually only affects your immediate circle of acquaintances.

John Adams was an irascible, arrogant, and disliked; Thomas Jefferson allowed his own bastards to be enslaved; Martin Luther King an adulterer; Cicero an anti-Semite.
posted by orthogonality 15 November | 14:54
sarcastic? who the hell cares if somebody I'll never meet is an asshole or not? I'd much rather know he's not voting to put a bunch of war criminals and war profiteers in power and keep them there. his being an asshole didn't kill any Iraqis, didn't kill any US soldiers, didn't bust the Treasury. votes (well, American votes) have global consequences. personal assholishness? not so much.

it's not like he's a friend of mine, you know? my friends I'd judge on character, Hollywood actors not so much
posted by matteo 15 November | 14:55
*sigh* I miss Jerry Orbach.
posted by JanetLand 15 November | 14:57
matteo for the win.
posted by orthogonality 15 November | 14:57
I'm appealing.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson 15 November | 14:59
I'm a big Oz fan, so I have a hard time accepting Meloni as a good guy. Every time he bends a perp over the hood of a car, I think he's going to...well, you know.

I'll take Michael Moriarty over Waterston

My theater director in college once worked with Moriarty and LOATHED him. Every time we got the man drunk we were guaranteed to hear a collection of stories about what a pompous ass he was. (We suffered through it hoping for the occasional anecdote about smoking dope with Tobe Hooper. Those were priceless.)
posted by jrossi4r 15 November | 15:11
it's not like he's a friend of mine, you know? my friends I'd judge on character, Hollywood actors not so much

I see your point. But generally, if I find out someone (even someone I'll never meet) is a prick in their private life, my admiration will lessen. Human nature, I guess.
posted by jonmc 15 November | 15:14
I think Moriarty might be a little bit (points finger at temple, moves finger in a circular motion, says 'woo woo woo woo woo') these days, too.
posted by box 15 November | 15:19
Dinofrio. Period!

posted by ramix 15 November | 15:21
Dinofrio. Period!

posted by ramix 15 November | 15:22
I own a Law & Order 'fan book,' and the bio indicates that while Moriarity has a full six-pak, he lacks the plastic thing holding it together, so to speak.
posted by jonmc 15 November | 15:22
Wow, box. I didn't realize he was such a nutball right-winger. The prof's stories take on a whole new dimension now.
posted by jrossi4r 15 November | 15:24
(ramix the period thread is here)
posted by taz 15 November | 15:26
Oh, bloody Hell! Objection!
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson 15 November | 15:28
I don't like how Waterston swallows the last half of each of his sentences, nor his beady little eyes. On the other hand, my ex-boss was named Michael Moriarty, and he was a real asshole, so I can't like the actor by the same name, either.
posted by mrmoonpie 15 November | 15:45
Which one is partnered up with Jayne Mansfield's daughter? That woman is beautiful.
posted by Atom Eyes 15 November | 16:07
Christopher Meloni is partnered with Mariska Hargitay on Law & Order: SVU.
≡ Click to see image ≡
posted by box 15 November | 17:46
Yeah, she is Jayne's daughter. And yes, she is quite lovely.
posted by weretable and the undead chairs 15 November | 18:51
I like when Waterston tries to sell me robot insurance. They eat old people's medicine for fuel, you know.
posted by jrossi4r 15 November | 19:10
Has anyone else noticed || w00t!

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