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14 June 2006

People choose many reasons to justify bias. All are wrong.

Goodbye biased MetaChat Admin. My thanks and best wishes to those who spoke out in favor of fair treatment for everyone on this site.
Ach. mcgraw, I love ya, man, but did this place turn blue when I wasn't looking?
posted by jonmc 14 June | 09:26
Dude, no one is perfect. And by no one, I mean everyone.

*Your koan moment of the day*
posted by sciurus 14 June | 09:44
naw, this should never happen on MeCha. we're forgetting what an oasis this is compared to other sites.
posted by shane 14 June | 09:47
Yeah, seriously. C'mon. Taz tries her best to run things in a fair manner, and she does a brilliant job as far as I'm concerned.
posted by agropyron 14 June | 09:48
I say go if you want to -- but dfowler stays, damnit.
posted by safetyfork 14 June | 09:50
I would rather be happy than right. This site, as opposed to the blue, seems to be about the former.

We all get tweaked, upset, post stuff that borders on inappropriate, react to others, etc etc but the pluses SO far outweigh any minuses here. . .

(now can I have some more kool-aid, taz?)
posted by danf 14 June | 09:59
I would rather be happy than right. This site, as opposed to the blue, seems to be about the former.

Bears repeating. And if you can't be happy without being right...

We all need to let things go now and then.
posted by gaspode 14 June | 10:08
What about the bias in favor of your own family? E.g., if two small children were drowning and you could only save one--all things being equal, would you choose your daughter over a stranger's child?

I think that's a good justification for bias. Therefore, this post is unnecessary.
posted by mullacc 14 June | 10:12
And as I am the secret love child of taz and dodgygeezer (what? they were very young!) all the bias works in favor of me! awesome.
posted by gaspode 14 June | 10:17
I have a strong bias towards tacos.

Oh what I'd give for a blackened fish taco and a Modelo Especiale.
posted by I Love Tacos 14 June | 10:19
I am the other love child.
posted by Lipstick Thespian 14 June | 10:21
Or if you were out dress shopping, and liked one dress more than the other, and so you bought that dress? I'm OK with that, too.

We can't all pursue our ideologies at the expense of everyone's feelings. Lord knows I try, sometimes, but I think the number-one most-important thing I learned after graduating college, where ideologies rule, is that... ideologies don't rule. People do. And you have to deal with their quirks and biases and their moments of "I don't want to think about the larger implications right now, I'm hurt and upset and frustrated and need support." And you can maybe try to lead them into what you think are more constructive ways of dealing with their hurt and their pain, but unless they're about to use it to actually accomplish, I dunno, invading another country or something, forcing ideology down people's throats, or valuing it above people's feelings, is generally rude and hurtful.

I don't really care if anyone here is 100% consistent with his or her ideology. I'd like for us all to be 100% consistent with our compassion and patience. And I think the administration and members here do a damned good job of encouraging that.
posted by occhiblu 14 June | 10:22
I love love children.
posted by JanetLand 14 June | 10:29
If you find yourself getting angry here, mcgraw, then the site is failing you, and yes, maybe I'm failing you.

I'm sorry about that, but this place is not going to be a good match for everybody. Leave, and come back when and if you feel like it. I'll be glad to see you.
posted by taz 14 June | 10:30
dontcutoffyournutsmcgraw
posted by danostuporstar 14 June | 10:37
alright god damnit, everyone needs to shut up for a minute and dance. Right now. I'm serious. Do it. Do it. Enough of this talk about leaving - we are all strong and good people here. One thing we all have - booties, so I wanna see them moving. Now. I'm at werk and I'm doing it. And I'm bumping my shit up, since everyone else is:
GoGo Mecha.

Seriously mcgraw, don't leave, it's good to get things out every now and then. I bet you everyone learned something from all this, especially Taz and Hugh. And that's the point, eh? I'm sure I'm wrong about lots of stuff, but I'm more than willing to have my mind changed and challenged, in fact I encourage that.
posted by Hellbient 14 June | 10:39
♥ hellbient
posted by gaspode 14 June | 10:43
If mcgraw goes, I stay. I am deadly serious about this.
posted by PinkStainlessTail 14 June | 10:48
I agree with I Love Tacos.

I, too, love tacos.
posted by Fuzzy Monster 14 June | 10:54
I tried to backtrack through all this to see what was causing the fuss, but then I decided that knowing would harsh my coffee buzz so I quit.

La la la, can't hear you...
posted by mischief 14 June | 10:59
I want to have tacos with hellbient.
posted by jrossi4r 14 June | 11:03
I am right 53% of the time. With a +/- 7.3% margin of cilantro themed error.
posted by seanyboy 14 June | 11:03
WTFH(appened)?

Actually, don't tell me. I spent enough time last night reading a single MetaTalk thread to fill my drama quota for the week. If whatever happened seemed that bad, mcgraw, I assure you that a visit to the grey would put it in perspective for you.
posted by me3dia 14 June | 11:23
Yes jross, with salsa.
Let's not speak of this cilantro now, let's speak of salsa. We all have salsa in common, do we not?

Cilantro, cilantro will tear us apart, again.
posted by Hellbient 14 June | 11:24
Hugh come back, McGraw don't go. Everyone else have some lemonade.
posted by Divine_Wino 14 June | 11:33
How about oatmeal with cranberries?
posted by mischief 14 June | 11:36
Hugh is gone? I thought he was just "backing off". Oh dear.

And McGraw, don't go. It's not worth it over this.

And I agree with occhiblu: I don't really care if anyone here is 100% consistent with his or her ideology. I'd like for us all to be 100% consistent with our compassion and patience. And I think the administration and members here do a damned good job of encouraging that.
posted by Specklet 14 June | 11:44
"Don't remember people for their shortcomings. Remember them for the love they shared." - Angel of Death, "A Prarie Home Companion"
posted by mischief 14 June | 11:46
How about oatmeal with cranberries?
Yes.

Hugh is gone? I thought he was just "backing off". Oh dear.


I don't know, he's not here.

And I agree with occhiblu
I agree as well.

I would like to discuss this with Hugh in person, so I will do that.

posted by Divine_Wino 14 June | 11:55
Maybe I'm just perverse, but I don't think anything especially bad went down here. Rather, hugh's reaction to the thread and the ensuing discussion, was a much better way of dealing with a flip generalization than the mefi style reflexive dismissal mixed with insults. We were all reminded about the pointlessness of generalizations - for the record, I agree with Hugh - but the fact that we bothered to discuss this is encouraging. I'd always rather hear someone say why they dislike one of my remarks than hear a terse "stfu asshole" type remark.

Cheers,
pi
posted by pieisexactlythree 14 June | 13:01
what in the international shitballs is going on?
posted by chewatadistance 14 June | 13:09
I just deleted a long comment post. What I really want to say is that i want what's best for you McG. You get to decide what that is. This is a relationship, a community. And no community is gonna get it right all the time. Honestly, i don’t always feel that i belong here either. I am just grateful for the opportunity to not judge you or anyones choice(s).

We may not actually know each other but i do wish you well. And i’m sure i speak for everyone here when i say, “we’ll leave the light on for ya.”
posted by jelly 14 June | 13:17
I want to have tacos with hellbient.


I'm flattered, but I'm not into threesomes.
posted by I Love Tacos 14 June | 15:17
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posted by Wedge 14 June | 15:51
*frowns at Wedge*
posted by Specklet 14 June | 16:07
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posted by Wedge 14 June | 16:14
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