3. The answer for both, concerning how to consolidate power, and keep opposition at bay, is the same --declare world war -- find weaker nations that can be enemies of the people -- subvert the free press into a propaganda machine. Hitler invoked the spectre of "the Red Menace," while Bush pronounces the spectre of the “Evil Axis.” These spectres taint any dissenter with the red or evil brush. The US propaganda machine requires that every American dehumanize Afghanistan, Iraq, and North Korean lives. Just like Germany, the US people are consumed by fear, brought about by the propaganda of the State and Mass Media. America is going to war, because George W. Bush wants to be remembered as the next FDR. Bush is not FDR. Bush is a fabrication of his own egomania, a will to power, a desire to write his own leadership legacy as the president who won World War III, the war on terror.

4. Like Hitler, Bush weaves white lies into his speeches; the obedient corporate media repeats them over and over, while the alternative media asks where is the proof of such accusations? Bush Sr. did the same; a Kuwaiti woman testified before Congress that she saw Iraqi soldiers tear Kuwaiti babies from incubators. After the 1st Gulf War, we learned she was the daughter of a Kuwaiti Ambassador to the U.S. and that her story was a lie (prwatch.org). The point is that there is no proof; just a lie repeated until the masses believe it to be so true that checking for facts is unnecessary. Several examples: First, where are the weapons of mass destruction?; there is no proof of massed chemical, nuclear, and bio weapons stockpiled to be used against the U.S. – America is the only country that believes the propaganda. Second, there is no proof that even if there were such weapons, that there is launch capability or intent to use them. Third, there is no proven link between Al Qaeda and Iraq. The point is not that there is no proof, but that the American public is not demanding any.

5. Martin Luther King Jr. said, “History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people.” Being silent in front of the War Machine is appalling because the dictator consolidates power, then dissent itself becomes dangerous. There is little opposition, and what little there is, is not widely reported, so it appears that there is no Peace movement at all in the U.S. Bush sent the U.S. military to destroy Afghanistan without any apparent opposition, and is now poised to annihilate Iraq, again without noticeable opposition. Of course, there is opposition in every city across America, but it goes under-reported, so it does not exist in the minds of the masses. The polls report that opposition is much more widespread in other countries.

6. Both Hitler and Bush lumped all liberals together and call anything they say “unpatriotic.” Like Hitler, Bush is pushing one war policy after another through the houses of government, and then both sought appeals for international support. The strategy is working. Like Hitler, Bush squashes dissent. Hitler rounded up activists, and then had them killed; that has not happened in the U.S., though many a foreign student is being rounded up, and Homeland Security, is a suspicious thing. Paul Wellstone was killed in a plane crash just before Election Day 2002. It is a suspicious death.

7. Like Hitler, Bush Sr. and now Bush Jr. have dismantled worker protections. Americans, like Germans before WWII are putting in more hours for less pay. American has pursued a strategy of outsourcing to Third World countries for jobs as a way to keep unions powerless. Hitler also trashed trade unions. Like the Democrats, Germany’s Social Democrats were afraid to organize oppositions to their leader’s initiatives. Both the Democrats and the Social Democrats, sat back, and were overwhelmed by the opposition party, who was more aggressive and fanatical. This is coupled with a series of appointees that are loyal to the leader’s agenda.

8. To send a democracy into war, Hitler, like Bush whips up hatred, fear, and bloodlust. The propaganda is so transparent, one would think no intelligent being would find it credible. Like Hitler, Bush is demonizing Afghanistan, then Iraq as threats to U.S. national security, before invading them. Hitler demonized the "reds" and sent provocateurs to orchestrate a staged act of "terrorism." Bush demonized the Afghanistan people, and sent provocateurs to provoke acts of terrorism from the Al Qaeda, known as September 11th (See book by Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed, The War on Freedom: How and Why America was Attacked September 11, 2001). Bush Jr. and the administration may have known about the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, even provoked them be telegraphing US plans to topple the Bin Laden, then prevented the Air Defense system from intercepting the planes, so that a War on Terrorism could be launched. What little investigation there has been suggests that the US administration knew, did not respond on purpose, and has blocked any investigation of its role in 9-11. Hitler’s “dupe was a young revolutionary named Van der Lubbe, who was implicated in (i.e. framed for) the bombing of the Reichstag (the equivalent of the Congressional building)”(). Like Hitler, Bush is demonizing Hussein, provoking any act of terror that will legitimate the annihilation of the Iraqi people. Like Hitler, Bush has rallied the Americans against the "terrorists" and passed acts similar to Hitler’s "Enabling Acts," in which the State has the right to bypass any legal due process for "suspects" who may be enemies of the State.

9. Bush behaves like Hitler, threatening weaker nations with weapons of mass destruction and total annihilation unless they do as he says -- make a regime change. Bush’s World War III (WWIII), the invasion of Afghanistan, Iraq and North Korea will be fought for the same reasons Hitler invaded Poland, Czechoslovakia and Russia -- for economic hegemony, to strike fear into followers, to intimidate the world into submission, and to divert attention. Hegemony is power exercised in ways we take for granted; we do not resist what we do not notice. This occurs through demonization, to promote fear, and unite the masses behind the leader who promises protection. In 1938-1939 Hitler demonized Czechoslovakia, then Poland, as a threat to Germany’s national security, before invading each.

10. Bush follows Hitler’s strategy by turning weaker nations into threats to one that is a national superpower. Bush said in January 2002, “The United States of America will not permit the world’s most dangerous regimes to threaten us with the world’s most destructive weapons.” Like Hitler, Bush uses weapons of mass destruction while blaming the victim for threatening a superpower. Who has the most such weapons? In the regime changes to promote US security, the most dangerous regime on earth is the US. The US has amassed the most biological, chemical, and nuclear weapons of mass destruction, and has used them in Japan (Hiroshima, Nagasaki), in Vietnam (agent orange), and in Iraq (nuclear tipped war heads).

11. Like Hitler, Bush wants his followers to accept war as a way to divert attention from an economy slipping into recession and depression. Like Germany, the US economy will be in ruins and millions of its citizens will be dead after the world war. Following in the strategy perfected by Hitler, Bush has declared Iraq, Iran, and N. Korea as an “axis of evil,” whose provocations must be met by invasion and destruction. Iran is on the list because in 1978-79 they overthrew the US-backed dictatorship of the Shah. N. Korea is on the list because it is the gateway to China, which could be the next target of America’s expanding world war of imperial conquest.

12. This is an Oil War. When Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliburton, the corporation did $23.8 million in business with Saddam Hussein. The grand prize for the US war machine is that more than two thirds of the world’s reserves of oil and natural gas lie in the Middle East and Central Asia. The prize for Exxon, Unocal, Chevron, Texaco, Amoco, and BP is $1.1 trillion in oil reserve contracts in Iraq, billions in the pipeline through Afghanistan to get to the oil in the Caspian Sea reserves, and billions more once Iran has its latest regime change.

13. Many believed Hitler was merely a puppet of reactionaries. Like Hitler’s Vice-Chancellor Franz Von Papen, the puppet-master and real power behind President Bush, is Vice-President Dick Cheney and various neo-conservatives. Both Bush and Hitler are pea-brained. Like Hitler, Bush seeks to install puppet regimes in one country after another.

14. Like Hitler, Bush is pushing for a World War. Like WWII, WWIII will begin with a doctrine of pre-emptive, unilateral attacks on other nations. What goes around comes around. Without democratic debate, the U.S. created, supported, and trained the Al Quida, Taliban, Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, and the Shah of Iran’s terror machine. The U.S. supported Saddam and Iraq with weapons to attack Iraq, knew about the attack on Kuwait, decided against that, and turned on the leader we once used to further our oil interests. Senator Bryd's website --http://byrd.senate.gov -- asserts that the U.S. provided Iraq with its building blocks for biological weapons of mass destruction. Osma Bin Laden was our ally, we propped him up, until UNOCAL determined a regime change would make the pipeline to the Caspian Sea through Afghanistan a better business strategy. As the number of declared and undeclared U.S. wars and insurrections accumulates, the imperial pattern becomes clearer to the world. Nations began to fear that Hitler would be attacking them next, and formed an alliance against the obvious aggressor. This pattern now repeats, as citizens around the world mass to oppose G8, WTO, IMF, World Bank, and their prime mover, the U.S.

15. Like Hitler, Bush is becoming a fanatical military dictator. The government, unions, universities, opposition political party, and the corporate media are surrendering democratic rights to the protection of their beloved dictator.

16. Like Hitler, Bush wants regime changes brought about by invasion, refugee (concentration) camps, and sanctions that perform the mass murder of innocent men, women, and children. Bombs do not kill nearly as many millions as the sanctions.

17. Like Bush Sr. in 1991 Desert Storm, and Clinton in 1998 Desert Fox, Bush Jr. sees Iraq as a way to divert national attention away from his own political issues. For Clinton Desert Fox diverted attention away from his impeachment. For Bush Jr., the Desert Oil war diverts attention away from his role in Enrongate. All three presidents sought to use weapons of mass destruction to make people rally behind their leadership and ignore mass poverty, injustice, imperialism, and colonialism.

18. Like Hitler, Bush maneuvers national resolutions to support the war machine. The hypocrisy and arrogance of their leadership is beyond belief. Yet, the masses, struck by fear and propaganda, are eager for World War. The mainstream media is obedient to their Masters’ call. Homeland Security is a way to keep the masses demanding their civil liberties be stripped away. The Military filmed protesters at D.C. Demonstrations (27-29 Sept 2002); In Las Cruces, the police and FBI are filming our Marches. Both Hitler and Bush have put in tough new aggressive laws suppressing public dissent and have revoked civil liberties.

19. Declaring a war during an election improves the gains of the party in power (e.g Thatcher in Falkland War of 1982). Few congressional leaders dare challenge the imperialist, colonialist invasion philosophy of a United States president. When Bush Sr.’s polls started to drop in 1989, a war against Panama seemed the answer. When Clinton was pursued by Impeachment hearings, Desert Storm in Iraq seemed to be the answer. When Bush sees his polls start to slip, and wants to consolidate power in the 2002 elections of fellow party members, a war is a good thing. Only Noam Chomsky, Gore Vidal, and Howard Zinn have dared to call Bush’s war a racist, egotistical, religious war that will pit US fundamentalism against Islam. The mainstream media ignores the peace movement, those who resist colonial and racist propaganda. Few in America turn to the alternative media where they could easily learn about the reasons why the greatest superpower on the planet is going to destroy a country of Iraq for the third time.

20. Saddam Hussein is a despot, a torturer of his own people, a madman, in short a very bad man. Yet, unless cornered to protect his person, he is unlikely to use weapons of mass destruction. There is no proven capacity for said weapons of mass destruction, no proof of a delivery system beyond his own borders, and the military might has not been rebuilt since destroyed in four days by Bush Sr.’s Desert Storm War in 1991. 1.2 million people, half of them Iraqi children have died of starvation and treatable diseases in the 12 years of U.S. led sanctions.

21. US colonial, racist, imperialist strategy is based on a philosophy of business in which so-called “free markets” are protected by CIA and Military in order to promote large corporate Oil industry interest. America uses its superior weapons of mass destruction, CIA subversion, IMF, WB, and WTO loans to rob and steal from small nations, in order to feed the SUV appetite of US citizens.

22. The US Presidents believe they have a manifest destiny to rule the planet, to be the superpower of all powers; a nation destroys other nations to keep the spectacle of Oil dependency and resource gluttony in play.

23. US markets are deteriorating. Only by appropriation through War can the US keep extracting and appropriating world resources to sustain the Americana blotted way of life. This year the US wages war on Afghanistan and Iraq; Next year the US intends a war on North Korea; after that, we can look forward to WWIII. The US has been in perpetual war since WWII.

24. The war will cost $200 billion and the defense budget another 396.1 billion (FY 2003). WWIII will bankrupt the U.S. just as the Soviet Union went bankrupt after its war budget consumed all.

sry thx

amberglow-you've got priviledges here? Who else aside from Dodgygeezer?

no prob, mean.


the power! the power! ; >

(i'm sworn to secrecy)

Has MetaChat been hacked?

nah, i'm using my power for good.

with great power, comes - aw, fuck it.

Watch out! Power corrupts! (it's not absolute power is it?)

not at all--i'm in danger of becoming a Bushitler.

WTF? I come here for a fucking break from MeFiSpew.

There's little point, amber; people won't listen to facts.

Alex, it is nice to see you around Metachat, missed you last week, assumed you were on vacation or something.

Indeed I was!

cool! :)

Amberglow, dg and quonsar are mods, omiewise. It's on the about page that I finally managed to do. (Kiss the bunny. That's right. There on your screen. Kiss.)

ooooo, that feels so good, bunny!

i cannot stand horrible uncontrollable flatulence! i must delete amber's arse$%&^@yqety^3%62+++NO CARRIER

Can I substitute single malt for tequila?

: P

"i have power" Great send single malt!

*kisses bunny*

taz, it's a beautiful about page, and I was gonna kiss the bunny but then they came by with my thorazine and I lost the urge (or the ability-my mouth feels like something grafted onto the back of a gorilla with lice and the gout-but then, that's the beauty of thorazine, that and the Tardive Dyskensia.)

Speaking of meds, how come all the ones listed are downers?

*tongue flutters uncontrollably*

You'll get used to that, omiewise, and soon you will be able to kiss indiscriminately, tongue aflutter. (And as a side bonus, I think you'll find your popularity increasing exponentially. You can thank us later.)

And, arse_hat... tequila is only a guideline. We have no hard and fast rules. But don't try to push it with something like cream sherry - we expect you to use some common sense.

As much as I hate Bush, I still can't get behind the whole "Bush is the new Hitler" th... did someone say tequila? I'm in. How many glasses do we need?

Actually, didn't Hitler ultimately reject Christianity, considering it a religion for weaklings?

Why did the mexican throw his wife off the cliff? Tequilla.

where do watermelons go in the summer?
To John Cougar's Mellencamp.

Hitler had a complicated relationship with religion--there was a great article about this in the Atlantic a couple years ago--but by absolutely no stretch of the imagination was he a "fundamentalist Christian." And probably not a Christian at all.

"Eating Hitler?" naw, just not the same.

"but by absolutely no stretch of the imagination was he a 'fundamentalist Christian.' And probably not a Christian at all."

Yeah. It's hard for me to believe that anyone doesn't know this. Amber jumped the shark.

kmellis, it's really Mean Mr. Bucket's post.

kmellis has only a minimal user-level competence at reading comprehension.

Oh, the humanity! It seems I coined the neologism "pseudofascism" in vain. I think... I think I'll have a drink.

Gimlet, please.

Gimlet? Do you pee standing up or sitting down?

*pours warbaby a bourbon, net*

Hitler had a complicated relationship with religion--there was a great article about this in the Atlantic a couple years ago--but by absolutely no stretch of the imagination was he a "fundamentalist Christian." And probably not a Christian at all.

Which invalidates all the other points. Move along, citizen.

"On a bar stool a woman in a black tailor-made ... was sitting alone with a cigarette in a long jade holder. She had that fine-drawn intense look that is sometimes neurotic, sometimes sex-hungry, and sometimes just the result of drastic dieting," notes Marlowe before ordering a Gimlet. "So few people drink them around here ... Gimlets, I mean," the woman whispers to Marlowe. "A fellow taught me to like them," he replies, before the bartender sets the drink in front of him. "With the lime juice it has a sort of pale greenish yellowish misty look. I tasted it. It was both sweet and sharp at the same time. The woman in black watched me. Then she lifted her own glass towards me. We both drank. Then I knew hers was the same drink."

*knocks back the bourbon*

Attaboy. Now let's go hit the titty bar and shoot guns.

All at the same time?

jonmc, why do you hate the titty bar?

I love the titty bar. and the guns. and the bourbon.

No, we go get drunk. then we ogle the boobies. then we shoot the guns. Got it?

(odd aside: on my old commute there used to be a gun range in a strip mall directly next door to a roller rink. I always pictured the graceful skaters getting picked off by the shooters like ducks at a carnival booth)

For the sake of truth, the assertions that Hitler was absolutely not Christian appear to be untrue or at least debatable, as asserted by WikiQuote and this page linked from the wikipedia article on Hitler.

Ah, well, I misread. He did cite Christian values quite frequently in public, even if he had no credence in it in his private life.

That's cool. I'm a big fan of ATF events: Alchohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Boobies fit right in.

We almost got titty bars here. But the city intervened with with two ordinances that made them practically impossible. I was the only person who testified against it. It really pissed off the chief of police (who was actually a good guy, compared to the POS we now have.)

I used to favor a Webley Mark VI with .45ACP in half moon clips (too heavy for carry) but have since moved to a Grendel P30. After re-welding the frame and tooling the loading ramp, it's very reliable.

Glock M27 .40, forget about that .380

SPAS-12 with the after market hip stock. Subtle? bah!

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Unlike Hitler, Bush does not have a snazzy moustache.