help me find something to replace Jack and Ianto Torchwood scratched an itch I didn't quite realize i had...→[More:]or rather that so many people had. Still I don't want this associated with my real name altho i guess someone could possibly figure me out. yes, i'm in the closet about wanting to watch guys kiss. ha! i really hope i don't offend anyone with my questions, but here goes...

I've read the fanfic for TW (some of it's quite good) and been on tvtropes. I understand that Velvet Goldmine has boys kissing (yay!).

tvtropes said that Angel and Merlin have hoyay. Started watching Merlin, which while fun, is a family show. Also, not really what i'm going for. Angel was also on regular cable I think, so probably also a family show. I've only seen bits and pieces tho. does anything ever materialize on that show, or is it all unrequited and/or in the dreams of the fans?

Is there anything else that is movie or tv that has anything like the Jack and Ianto thing from TW? I mean, does James Spader make out with guys in any movie? (Sex, Lies, and Videotape & Secretary i have already seen...if he made out with a guy in any of those, that would have been exactly what I'm looking for).

i guess I'm specifically NOT looking for pr0n. I read something I found in my fruitless (no pun intended) searching about how women who like the hoyay tend to enjoy the story arc that goes with it. That would be me as well.

i don't have cable or pay channels, but i do have netflix streaming. i am willing to find things on the internet, so feel free to recommend whatever you can. foreign films are ok too.

so maybe what i want isn't even hoyay since that seems to be never actualized in any physical way? and yaoi seems to exist mainly in anime/manga unless i'm looking in the wrong places (and i honestly haven't explored too deeply since i wasn't sure at all what i was getting my computer into.)

also, i've never explored any sort of kink before, so i'm probably just babbling now and i'm going to stop.