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10 July 2010

Smart people stay up late. I, however, go to sleep early. I wonder if age was considered in the study because I stayed up late when I was young(er.)
Hey, that's amazing. I am a natural stay-up-later, but the simple pressures of my job mean I have to get up early, so I go to bed more around the time of the "dull" people, about 11:30. Even that does not really get me enough sleep, since I have to be up at 6:30.

The thinking behind this looks super suspect to me, though. We use general intelligence to override the 'natural' sleep instinct? Nah. If you read in history, you find that people stayed up really late even before there was electricity. There were candles and lamps, after all.
posted by Miko 10 July | 08:28
Explains why most of the hosts of morning TV & radio shows are idiots.
posted by oneswellfoop 10 July | 10:12
Does it explain it because the hosts get up early? Or because the demographic that gets up early is best served by idiocy?
posted by Obscure Reference 10 July | 10:14
I thought smart people got adequate sleep, 7 or 8 hours. Are these smart people allowed to sleep in? I haven't read the link.
posted by DarkForest 10 July | 10:26
I think this study is BS, but I like it anyway because it supports the theory that I'm smart!
posted by amro 10 July | 10:55
Dark Forest, I rarely get to work before 10 am.
posted by amro 10 July | 10:56
The thinking behind this looks super suspect to me

I had the same feeling, despite being at near GENIUS levels thanks to my late bedtime (and yes, sleeping in, I love my job). You have to be smarter to override your body's natural instincts? That's really weird.
posted by jessamyn 10 July | 13:01
If they can find a correlation between insomnia and intelligence, I think they might have something.
posted by Ardiril 10 July | 13:50
I must be the stupidest person in the world then, because I'm usually asleep before 10:30.

On the other hand, that's mainly because I have to get up around 6:30 in the morning to have a reasonable commute. When I didn't have to do that, I'd usually stay up until 1:00 or 2:00am and then wake up at 11:00.

Basically my commute has forced me to be a morning person for the last 17 years or so, even though I hate waking up early. So... maybe that proves I am the stupidest person in the world, because of that?
posted by FishBike 10 July | 14:08
Satoshi Kanazawa is an idiot. He's almost always the one coming up with really ridiculous, attention-grabbing evo-psych explanations for modern behaviors based on evidence that's out of date. He mostly tends to rail against feminism and invent just-so stories about why women should do what he thinks they should do, but I really wouldn't trust him with any other topic, either.
posted by occhiblu 10 July | 14:47
Well, then everybody in the Netherlands is smart in winter. And has been for centuries.
Since at winter solstice there's only daylight for 8 hours here.
posted by jouke 10 July | 14:49
Clearly I'm dumb as a bag of lentils, because during the week I'm usually in bed by 10.30 and up by 5.30. Weekends I go to bed later, but am usually up early, 8am is a really late lie-in for me.
posted by Senyar 10 July | 14:57
Weekends I go to bed later, but am usually up early, 8am is a really late lie-in for me.

I usually like to sleep in until about 8 on weekends too. This morning I woke up at 6:15 and couldn't get back to sleep. ::grumble::
posted by FishBike 10 July | 15:19
When I got up early, I was so stupid through the whole morning, I would have been better off half drunk.
posted by Ardiril 10 July | 15:24
I've been a night-owl for the past 10-11 years - since I purchased my first computer. Not working for the past six years has reinforced it. I'd much rather go to bed at 3 or 4 a.m. and sleep 'til noon or later. It's really odd in that I used to be one of those chirpy morning people.
posted by deborah 10 July | 15:35
I should point out that I don't stay up late because I want to. I fail at sleep.
posted by amro 10 July | 15:40
This morning I woke up at 6:15 and couldn't get back to sleep.

The heat has been messing with my sleep. I went to bed at the reasonable time of about 1:30 but then woke up at 5 and couldn't go back to sleep. Which sucks because it's light out so it looks like it's awake time but it's really not. Finally found the right combination of pillows and blankets and cooldown strategies and slept til noon. I often wonder about people who can shift their schedules around. I always tell people that I have a [mostly] online job because I actually CAN'T get up and stay up early on a regular basis. I love the idea. I can't make it happen. I wind up with stress related maladies and various illnesses, but as long as I can more or less sleep on my schedule I'm healthy and mostly happy.
posted by jessamyn 10 July | 15:45
I'm up at around eight, sleepy days a quarter to nine and I rarely go to bed before two in the morning. I am an insomniac.
posted by dabitch 10 July | 15:51
This article is clearly well researched and valid. You can trust my opinion because I'm in the >125 category.
posted by youngergirl44 10 July | 16:36
This article makes TimeCube look like the work of a genius.

(I have a really high IQ and I go to bed at 3 AM and wake up at 8 AM so my comment doesn't stem from sour grapes)

Grapes...stem...see what I did there? That kind of sheer cleverness can only be a direct result of sleep deprivation or utter brilliance. You be the judge as to which it is in my case.
posted by iconomy 10 July | 16:48
of copurse us late nighters are smarter . we get to sleep in !!
posted by rollick 10 July | 21:05
That study is an absolute crock of shit any way you care to take it.

I usually go to bed at 11.30 -12.00 and I get up at 5.00. Therefore, dumb as dogshit apparently. I know lots of peoe who are way smarter than me who go to bed long before new and lots of idiots who stay up way later.

I hate to sleep in. Anything after about 7.00 makes me feel like crap all day.
posted by dg 10 July | 22:52
Apparently I am also in the lowest percentile, IQ-wise. This is actually a relief to know. Takes a lot of pressure off.
posted by danf 11 July | 09:17
What's it mean if you fall asleep at four in the afternoon?

Never mind.
posted by Pips 11 July | 22:30
Well, that gives me some hope.
I've never been a morning person.
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