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14 March 2009

Boston Herald does not seem to understand the poling! " 51 percent said Chris Brown was responsible for the incident, 46 percent said Rihanna was responsible and 52 percent said both were to blame" Wha, 149%? Still, "a significant number said Rihanna was destroying Chris Brown’s career. Women blamed Rihanna as much as men did." If that has a grounding in reality that is scary. I still think it's a publicity stunt gone way wrong.
The actual press release is here and has exactly the same numbers. My guess is they asked "Do you think Rihanna/Chris/both were responsible?" as three separate yes-or-no questions, and a lot of people said yes to more than one.

Which would mean the 46% isn't the number that thought Rihanna was *solely* responsible. At least some of them must have interpreted the question as "Does she have some responsibility?".

In fact, since 52% think both were responsible, that leaves only 48% to split between thinking one of Chris or Rihanna is solely responsible, or to answer "don't know". Assuming a lot of people blame solely Chris, the number that blame solely Rihanna must be well under 20%. But that wouldn't have made such a good headline.

And if the question design is this crappy (or deliberately manipulated), the sampling methodology and interview technique are not to be trusted either, so all of the numbers are highly suspect.
posted by cillit bang 14 March | 04:04
The press release that cillit bang links to also says "females were no less likely than males to come to Rihanna’s defense".

No less likely. So females were just as likely to defend Rihanna. Yeah, I don't think that's what they meant either.

154% of people in this thread believe that this poll is stinkier than a pile of stinky poop. The other 86% were no less likely to think that the poll was poopy.
posted by taz 14 March | 05:31
Has anyone established that the story is even true?
posted by Ardiril 14 March | 08:05
The story that he beat her up? That has been verified by police photos showing her injuries, as far as I know, but I haven't really been paying that much attention. I had never even heard of him before this, and had only the vaguest idea who she was. Which, I guess is why arsey thinks it might be a publicity stunt, but it's a really weird (and painful!) one if it is.
posted by taz 14 March | 08:26
Ahh, didn't know that. All I know are a couple headlines. I had not heard of either of them before this. I get the bulk of my news now from CNN's twitter feed.
posted by Ardiril 14 March | 08:47
Wasn't Rhianna in a Best Buy Commercial? I blame Circuit City.
posted by jonmc 14 March | 09:17
The whole response to this business has been pretty awful. I read another article, out of Chicago I think, where teenage girls were saying how Rihanna probably asked for it, probably was on his back, etc. It just made me feel so sad.

I saw a snip of some (male) comedian, asked his opinion by pararazzi, joking, "That's nothing; you should see how many times I've beat up my wife."

Just not funny.
posted by loiseau 14 March | 09:34
I had never heard of them before this story started appering everywhere and then a photo circulated around the Internet showing her injured but that was shown to be photoshopped. I'm still not sure what's real and what's not. Either way it's ugly and sad.
posted by arse_hat 14 March | 09:34
ah! I have no idea. The last I read anything about it, the photo was supposed to have been unofficially "leaked" by someone in the PD, omg, omg. I didn't know about the photoshop theory, which, if true, may they all fucking burn in celebrity hell - which is just like everyone else's hell, except that they while they suffer the flames of eternal damnation, they are old, fat, wrinkled (and pimply at the same time, due to the wonders of metaphysics), smell bad, wear WalMart clothes, and nobody pays them any attention. And they only have each other to keep them company.
posted by taz 14 March | 10:38
I thought everyone knew who she was, I haven't been able to escape the girl since Umbrella. She's everywhere. Him on the other hand? Never heard of. Until he beat her up (I reckon he did beat her up.)
posted by dabitch 14 March | 10:44
I was surprised to find out that Rihanna actually has some good songs (Not Umbrella) when I heard her on the radio recently. I've heard Chris' songs and they're not my style- slow jam kinda stuff. He is a good dancer though.

I hope he still gets tried and punished even though she isn't pressing charges.
Aside from it just being terrible to punch your partner, it would be such a bad precedent to set and an awful message to send their teen and younger fans.
posted by rmless2 14 March | 11:43
I don't know where the "shown to be photoshopped" thing comes in. The LAPD basically conceded that the photo was leaked from an ongoing domestic violence investigation, and they started an internal probe to find out how the leak happened.
posted by scody 14 March | 15:28
I don't think that I had heard of these two before this stuff and only have a vague idea of who they are now.
posted by octothorpe 14 March | 15:38
More about the photo(s).
posted by arse_hat 14 March | 15:42
leaked cop-photo & the photoshopped photo
posted by dabitch 14 March | 16:30
I don't know why people think that scolding Rihanna is a good thing to do or helpful to anyone.
posted by Claudia_SF 14 March | 16:47
Duh, Claudia, she's the woman -- she's responsible for this whole thing, obvy. How dare she interfere with his rising fame! She's going to ruin that poor man!
posted by loiseau 14 March | 16:59
Thought experiment: Let's say Rihanna freaked out over a text message from another woman, as was alleged. Let's say she slapped him, even punched him. He has training in martial arts. Don't most of those teach defensive moves first and foremost? He should be able to deflect her blows and restrain her. She's about my size - 100 lbs - and he's bigger (and younger and stronger) than my husband, who has no martial arts background. My husband can very easily pin me down (for fun, wink wink), so even if she attacked him first, there is no reason whatsoever that he had to attack back in such a manner.
posted by desjardins 16 March | 08:39
Oh for God's sake..... || Bunny! OMG!

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