It's too bad PETA has to be so freaking extreme to the point of insanity. I mean, their basic point - don't be cruel, be humane -is completely worthy. But by acting like wingnuts and suggesting that we should somehow live on earth without making use of the resources of any living animal, they lose the opportunity to get broader support for things like better oversight for factory farming, mandated healthier conditions, pet licensing, etc. Even vegans eat dead bugs. It's impossible to take them seriously.
PETA sucks and I am embarrassed to be a vegetarian (18 years!) when they pull stunts like this.
That being said, thinking about the grosssssssness of this idea actually does make me reflect on the origin of the milk products I so consume, and it bothers me. It bothers me anyway, but reading this made me think about it again. So although I don't think vegetarians are their primary target, I guess it did have the intended effect.
Even vegans eat dead bugs. It's impossible to take them seriously.
Hmm. I know some pretty committed vegans and I find their lifestyle not only admirable but IMO kind of inspirational. They're not crazed, preachy wingnuts, but people who are really informed about food, are amazing cooks who make everything from scratch, and are very active and fit. (I know a female vegan bodybuilder, even.) I think if you sit down and talk to any veg*n you'll find that almost all of them are realistic about their diet -- it's not a religion, it's a series of choices you make every day to minimize your use of animal products.
Of course there are bad examples in all walks of life, but I think the vast majority of vegetarians are earnestly trying to do their best, so I don't like to see the ways in which their lifestyle is imperfect or (sometimes necessarily) inconsistent being picked on.
loiseau: I don't think the "them" in that second sentence refers to vegans; I think it refers to PETA. So it's not "It's impossible to take vegans seriously" but "It's impossible to take PETA seriously"
PETA has to be extreme? I can remember when PETA were pretty adamant about the no fur / leghold traps / whaling / seal clubbage, and sure that was ok. Earth First! were seen as the hairy-eyed radicals as they used guerrilla tactics that occasionally got a little stupid (and once started that terrible outbreak of zombies). It's weird that EF! are calm compared to PETA who are ranting like they're in the advanced stages of syphilis, or like they have rabies. From being bitten. You know, by an animal.
PETA's all about the media attention, but they're not terrorists like the lab-firebombing SHAC and the nutjobs who dug up the body of the grandmother of the guinea pig breeder. That's some extreme shit, and PETA's silly press releases about human milk ice cream and naked Pamela Anderson and Naomi Campbell are far, far preferable.
Most veg*ns I know recognise that they can't eliminate animal products altogether - otherwise they wouldn't be able to use a computer, drive on a bitumen road or use tyres - and do what they can within their control.