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24 February 2008
This is the post to talk about jonmc. Please make this post (and no other) all about jonmc. Seriously.
Ah, johncm. What is there to say about johmc that hasn't already been sung from the hearts and mouths of the millions who love him? What can be said ...
I liked my Cornbread pure way before you even knew what "pure" meant TPS. In fact, once the creator of Cornbread came into the bar and bought me a drink.
I don't care much for cornbread actually. And go ahead, have your fun. I've just had it up to here with this world and all the bullshit in this world and the 'I Gotta Dance,' shit and the Oscars thread just set it off. I can't take any more of this Tony Robbins ya-gotta-believe shit. Life isn't triumphant, it isn't even tragic, it's fucking tragicomic-if you're lucky and I'm sick to death of all the stupid homilies saying otherwise.
I like cornbread. But now, those cheddar biscuits at Red Lobster... now we're talking! I was also thinking of opening a Cinnabon franchise. I think it may be my calling.
Okay, since this is the jonmc thread, and since jonmc's going to make it all about him (when really, it was about cornbread), I'll just say: Jon, you've made that point umpteen million times. So, NOTED. Jesus Christ already.
And another thing: What's really good in cornbread is some jalapeno. Yum.
Best cornbread I ever had (aside from homemade) was at a Jamaican restaurant in Sacramento. They brought it to the table when you sat down. Alas, it's gone now. But it turned into a decent Ethiopian place, so that's good.
It's the corn flour from which corn tortillas are made.
I'm embarassed that I don't know that. But in my defense, I live in PA Dutchville. If you can't make Shoefly Pie or Funny Cake with it, good luck finding it.
You can make some totally tasty cheddar biscuits by just squishing some cheese and herbs into the pre-made Pilsbury kind.
The best cornbread I ever had was in a carribean place here in Seattle. Huge portions of really good food, and the moistest cornbread I've ever had in my life. We got extra to take home - that's how good it was.
i have been letting corn torillas get all mushy and fluffy in baked dishes and i think i am getting hooked on the corn flour.
This is why there are tamale warnings and corn bread alerts.
But god how i use to love corn muffins.
And go ahead, have your fun. I've just had it up to here with this world and all the bullshit in this world and the 'I Gotta Dance,' shit and the Oscars thread just set it off. I can't take any more of this Tony Robbins ya-gotta-believe shit. Life isn't triumphant, it isn't even tragic, it's fucking tragicomic-if you're lucky and I'm sick to death of all the stupid homilies saying otherwise.
But it does no good to have got rid of the causes of individual sorrow; for one is sometimes seized by hatred of the whole human race . . . We ought, therefore, to bring ourselves to believe that all the vices of the crowd are, not hateful, but ridiculous, and to imitate Democritus rather than Heraclitus. For the latter, whenever he went forth into public, used to weep, the former to laugh; to the one all human doings seemed to be miseries, to the other follies. And so we ought to adopt a lighter view of things, and put up with them in an indulgent spirit; it is more human to laugh at life than to lament over it. Add, too, that he deserves better of the human race also who laughs at it than he who bemoans it; for the one allows it some measure of good hope, while the other foolishly weeps over things that he despairs of seeing corrected.
This is my final word: I've really never wanted anything out of this site besides a place to joke around and on occasion comisserate. I'll keep my fatalism out of everybody else's threads, if you all keep your pep talks out of mine. and you can hold me to that.
I'll keep my fatalism out of everybody else's threads, if you all keep your pep talks out of mine.
Not exactly an even trade. Tonight, you took a big ole' steaming shit in SassHat's thread about wanting to explore her creative side. Not kind, not supportive, not OK. We want to support SassHat because we like her, because she's part of the bunny family, as are all members here- we give you pep talks because you're part of the family, too. As far as I'm concerned, you can say what you want on any topic, but when it becomes less of a schtick and more of an attack, like the stuff tonight, that's when you've gotta learn to drop it.
we give you pep talks because you're part of the family, too.
Well, stop. I'll gladly stop discouraging you all, if you stop encouraging me. Seriously. If you don't want to join me in misery than STFU and I'll return the favor.
We can't help it- people care too much. That's a problem here- we support each other too much. Perhaps you should stop posting the type of posts that would invite pep talks? No more bread crumbs, no more ducks.
Look, drunks do this thing where they talk about the same cornbread over and over and over. Maybe it's the last cornbread they can remember. Maybe it's the only cornbread story they have burned into autopilot in their heads. Either way, i really try to avoid the drunks that do it because i don't wanna hear about the same damn cornbread over and over, even if they enjoy this little cornbread speech just as much and as freshly every time because of whatever disconnect with commonly perceivable reality or memory loss, any more than when people beat the same old cornbread joke to death as they only thing they ever say, or want a goddamn cornbread award for liking certain kinds of cornbread while hating other cornbread, or shuddering that the very thought of a torilla or tamale.
If everyone else thinks ignoring or tolerating this cornbread related behavior is great, they are condoning it, and it makes me pretty much not mention torillas ever, not to mention feeling the need to defend tamales, and i wonder if i should just stop talking about corn flour products altogether.
Whatever. i'm never going to seriously say whatevs.
Jon just doesn't get it, and it looks like he possibly can't, but it is interesting who does bother to keep trying outside of line of fire, sheer boredom, and knowing he's as predictable as splashback.
To avoid the splatter, you gotta keep your distance, and it keeps preferable company away from even trying someone's recipe.
If jon's not going to change at all ever, it means we've heard it all already. But besides all that, do we have to have some special front page warning that instructs new people never to feed the duck?
And from now on can we just call him the duck? So someone can just yell DUCK?
Metachat: Kiss the bunnies, but DON'T FEED THE DUCK!
Seriously, though, I promise to stop pouring cornbread batter into everybody's shoes as they sleep, if everybody promises to stop wearing shoes. Just stop it, okay?
A friend of mine was helping write a travel guide to Italy. He was working on the section on daytrips from Rome, and he was writing up some caves that were supposedly very neat to visit.
"Bring your flashlight and duck," he wrote; "the caves are dark and small."
He said he liked the idea of millions of American tourists getting to the caves, switching on their flashlights, then looking around and saying, "OK, but now what do I do with the duck?"
Umm, hi. I missed all the hullabaloo, I think, but considering jonmc is the only MeFite I've ever met in real life, I have to say this:
I like you, Jon. I do. You seem nifty. Sort of sad, sometimes, but that's okay. You've got issues, just like the rest of us do. You get crotchety. You can be an online asshole. Alas, it happens to the best of us, and sometimes we need to tone it down, and sometimes we need to set aside our keyboards when we're under the influence and sometimes we need to just ... be.
So, while we're all here talking about cornbread and stuff, let's just remember that Jon is one of our bunnies, like TPS says, and that we fucking care. And I'm sorry, but it's true. We like you, that's all, and sometimes we get frustrated with you. We wouldn't care so much if you were just a jerk, you know. We wouldn't want you to be happy, we wouldn't want you to be successful, we wouldn't want you to believe in magical fairy godmothers. We'd just want you to go away and leave us alone.
And I really don't think any of us want that. Is all I'm saying. I think. Maybe I don't know that well, 'cos I miss a lot around here, but I do know I like you. So shut up, and also keep talking, and also, everybody else shut up and also keep talking.
I think so, seanyboy. Though of course the Great Cornbread Schism that led to mass violence, the burning of great cities, the fracturing of families, brother against brother - is the Sugar Question ... and the recipe for New England Johnny Cakes that I just looked at called for two tablespoons of sugar, so you might want to gird yourself for a bloodbath.
But if you want corn meal, sugar, and New England-y goodness, what about New England Hasty Pudding? Has anyone made this?
Jon, it's your relentless hammering away on the same theme over and over again, and your seeming inability to see that other people don't find giving up an appropriate response (for them) to their problems. Embrace mediocrity all you want, just stop tearing other people down for not wanting to live their lives your way. It's frustrating, annoying, and boring.
he was just bombed and morose. a lot of the time he's bombed and happy. often bombed and erudite, frequently bombed and incoherent, occasionally bombed and ecstatic, sometimes bombed and remorseful. there must be a common thread in there somewhere, but i'm damned if i can see it.
I'll keep my fatalism out of everybody else's threads, if you all keep your pep talks out of mine.
This seems like a fair offer. I for one have given up trying to note or encourage what is obviously very real talent in jonmc; he's not into it. So be it. If he isn't buying, don't we all have better things to do - like working on our own projects or encouraging people who want and can use our encouragement? Honestly, I'd like it if jonmc wrote a book, but he's not likely to, and somehow Western culture will most likely manage to survive.
If all we have to do to get rid of the Grim Prophecies of Loss and Folly is vow not to give jonmc any pep talks in threads he starts, that's do-able. It would be even better if we didn't give him any pep talks in any threads. If that actually happened, the fire-hose bursts of negativity all over a thread would end up being more like little hollow faucet drips from an empty bathroom down the hall. Plunk [quiet]. Plunk [quiet].
Let's turn our energies elsewhere. There are a lot of people with talent here who work hard at their crafts and who can make good use of pep talks. Let's concentrate on them.
Allrighty then. I missed whatever precipitated this. No magic bullets. I will say both jonmc AND pips are two of my very absolute faves, and quonsar's right. Yeah he harps on shit and has issues but who the hell doesn't? I normally exit thread if you (jonmc) start opinion hammering and I wait for a more jovial jonmc to reappear. Dude, if people are bugging you to do shit you don't want to do, then don't do it. I made the mistake of listening to people tell me I should be an artist/graphic designer/visual something-or-other and ended up in massive debt while I took a year off to dabble. I totally get the don't push me deal AND the cheerleading deal. It's the same, really - just live & let live people - it's not that hard.
Actually, it wasn't so much people bugging Jon to do shit... In fact it wasn't anybody bugging Jon to do anything, but more like Jon bugging someone else not to do shit. In fact, exactly like. And repeatedly repeatedly.
But as far as cheerleading Jon, I agree. He doesn't want it; don't do it.
he was just bombed and morose. a lot of the time he's bombed and happy. often bombed and erudite, frequently bombed and incoherent, occasionally bombed and ecstatic, sometimes bombed and remorseful. there must be a common thread in there somewhere, but i'm damned if i can see it.
And here is where I bite my tongue till I say owchie.
Meanwhile, it just doesn't pay to miss a few hours around here, does it? NOTHING makes sense.
I'm late to the party.....was most of Mr. McNally's previous thread deleted?
My boy Daniel won best actor last night, but this was NOT one of the roles in which I wanted to fuck him.
Mups, there's a wonderful Southern-Jamaican place in Ft. Greene near BAM you can sample if you ever come here...though of course, Calis don't have the last word on cornbread. ;-)
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