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Wow. Did anyone actually follow this? Whoa. Examine and be entertained:
This fellow, who obviously identifies with (his notion of) "hipsters," perceives Fruit of the Loom as marketing undergarments to "hipsters," and he becomes completely incensed.
Then, when someone explains to him that the term refers to a style of underwear that rides on the hips, not to a potentially cool social demographic, he should probably just delete the whole thing... but instead he makes a huge semi-pseudo-logic circle around the situation, saying:
Use of the word hipster in present day slang has developed distinct negative connotations, including: identifying that a person may be superficially following recently mass produced, homogeneous, urban fashion trends, overly concerned with their image and the contradictions of their identity, potentially anorexic, disingenuously appropriating a pseudo-artistic image or "a collage of other urban identies" from the past. Similar to other social groups, hipsters have been accused of exercising peer pressure to persuade other members of the group to adopt certain attitudes and ideas. Though many hipsters are seen to identify strongly with the perceived rarity and exoticness of their particular fashion and tastes, the phenomenon of moving into city centers and adopting "new" urban attitudes toward fashion, design, and culture is currently a major social trend and is the subject of numerous reality and home improvement television shows. Often in its negative connotation, 'hipsters' are considered apathetic, apolitical, pretentious, and self-entitled by other, often marginalized sectors of society they live amongst, including previous generations of bohemian and/or "counter-culture" artists and thinkers.
Okay, it's odd that the Flickr commenter who explained the underwear to him probably got a Flickr account just for that one comment... but maybe it was a friend who was ashamed to tell him to his face. I'm pretty conspiracy-minded, but even I have my doubts that that comment was made by The Man in the form of a shadowy Fruit of the Loom ad exec, swooping in from the wings to save their underwear from slung mud...
Dude. Let it go. And don't examine hipsters as "...seen to identify strongly with the perceived rarity and exoticness of their particular fashion and tastes, the phenomenon of moving into city centers and adopting "new" urban attitudes toward fashion, design..." unless you're a sociologist... or a poseur hipster.
Jon, I apologize if he's a friend of yours. I only jest for fun sake.
:-)
Hippies didn't name themselves hippies and hipsters didn't name themselves hipsters. It's pretty sad that guy jumps to the conclusion hipsters are about "hipsters" in the first place, so per usual, i hope he's has the ignorance of youth, but it all reeks of embarrassing envious insecurity run amok.
Just thinking about what this guy believes is making me exhausted. Aside from the whole underwear thing, he doesn't seem to realize that the term "hipster" meaning "urban groover" is old, old, old, and a sort of retro ironic borrow to describe the neo mods.
Oh my god. Pleae tell me I was never a teenager with my head as far up my own ass as that guy. At least I don't think I was when it came to names on subcultures and their origins.
In fact I wrote a book for my mom about all the subcultures at the time, what they wore and they were called and where it stemmed from, highly researched and with illustrations on each page of the right things to wear and brand names if any - just to keep her from calling my Goth friends "punks" because that drove me insane.
The first comment I left was a link to a google search for "hipster underwear" and a note saying that since I was at work at the time, I wasn't going to google "hipster panties", but that if he were to do so he'd probably get results similar to what I'd gotten. I think I then said something like "I hate to kill a good conspiracy theory, but there it is".
When that was deleted, I left another comment to the effect that my previous comment had somehow disappeared, and that since I was no longer at work I'd taken the liberty to google "hipster panties" and link to it. That, too, has been purged, as has the comment you left. Dude's like a little Stalin. Except without the mass murder and such. So far as I know.