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17 April 2007

More bad news Because today didn't suck hard enough...
"The denial was greeted enthusiastically by SoundExchange"
"the royalty board also refused to grant a stay on the payment of retroactive royalties"

Of course they don't make an effort to PAY THE ARTISTS. Turds.
posted by arse_hat 17 April | 00:14
Like I said on that big blue site:

Write to your representatives. Messages will be delivered to Congressmen and Senators via e-mail, fax, or post. I encourage every American interested in the issue to take the time to fill out the necessary form. Leave a paper trail! Make sure senators know that this stack of paper that comes in to the office every morning is about internet radio. In a democracy, the only power is in numbers.
posted by kyleg 17 April | 00:23
I'm sort of at wit's end here. I already don't buy music from RIAA members (although I may slip now and again, I do try to do my homework), and I don't listen to their buddies on Clear Channel. What, short of going door-to-door and driving railroad spikes between the eyes of label executives, can a poor boy do?

On preview: yeah, I wrote my representatives. It's not nearly as satisfying as playing John Henry at the Sony/BMI offies, but it's a bit more legal. Let's see if they do something.
posted by bmarkey 17 April | 00:26
offies = offices
posted by bmarkey 17 April | 00:27
From everything I've heard, the increased fees apply mostly to streaming broadcasters, not to small outfits like MechaRadio.

Right?

I mean, it sucks. But it doesn't affect us here.

Right?
posted by mudpuppie 17 April | 00:58
No pups. It costs our upstream provider and so costs us. The smaller the player the more the cost.
posted by arse_hat 17 April | 01:01
It might well take out LoudCity. At which point we hoist the Jolly Roger and carry on as usual.

Right?
posted by bmarkey 17 April | 01:03
We'd be pretty screwed if LoudCity put the prices up. I'm not in favour of hoisting the Jolly Roger.

I'm more in favour of placing a complete ban on all music where no license has been explicitly given to play that music through metachat. So, podsafe music or own-recorded music or music where the artist has said it's OK to play a song.

You can hate the royalty charges charged for internet radio, but LoudCity have been pretty creative in aggregating multiple broadcasters in order to circumvent existing laws. This hearing doesn't come as a suprise to me. The RIAA and CRB act and will continue to act in this way until it becomes financially imprudent to do so.
posted by seanyboy 17 April | 01:25
"I already don't buy music from RIAA members (although I may slip now and again, I do try to do my homework), and I don't listen to their buddies on Clear Channel."

Then why are you concerned?

I don't eat at McDonalds, so they could raise their prices threefold, and I wouldn't care one whit.
posted by mischief 17 April | 01:27
mischief, did you even read the article?

seanyboy, hopefully there will be some sort of reasonable compromise. If not, seeing as you're the one on the hook here, it's your call to make.
posted by bmarkey 17 April | 01:33
Jesus Christ, mischief. You've been re-activated for a couple of weeks now, and I don't think you've said a single thing that wasn't combative. Take a pill, dude.
posted by mudpuppie 17 April | 01:33
Not exactly "Jolly Roger", but aren't there any services like LoudCity operating outside of United States jurisdiction? Isn't MetaChat.org registered and hosted elsewhere?
posted by wendell 17 April | 01:37
There aren't that many places outside of the Berne Convention anymore. Russia, maybe China. Sweden has a few loopholes, that's how Pirate Bay operates.

I somehow just don't feel that all the shoes have dropped here, yet.
posted by stilicho 17 April | 01:41
What are you talking about? Yesterday was awesome.
posted by Eideteker 17 April | 05:48
*slaps Eideteker* WAKE UP, DUDE!
posted by bunnyfire 17 April | 07:22
mischief was timed-out?
posted by danostuporstar 17 April | 08:09
"re-activated"?

Say what?!

I did read the article, and I don't get bmarkey's point at all. If he already doesn't buy RIAA product, why should he care what they do?
posted by mischief 17 April | 09:27
danostuporstar: I must not have received that memo either.
posted by mischief 17 April | 09:46
Okey doke.
(The "(not) a single thing that wasn't combative" isn't especially accurate either.)
posted by danostuporstar 17 April | 09:53
Hmmm. Since I just woke up, I'll give mischeif the benefit of the doubt: The RIAA, through their subsidiary Sound Exchange, are raising the royalty rates for internet radio broadcasters to many times their current rate, and many times what is collected from conventional terrestrial radio. This rate will also be retroactive to 2006. The effect of this action will be to crush internet radio, by and large, forcing most broadcasters to shut down for fear of incurring huge amounts of fees. (See also.)

There is still the chance of appeal in another venue, as I understand it, and with a little pressure from the House and/or Senate it might even get overturned. It's a slim chance, and not one I hold out much hope for, but it's what we've got at the moment.
posted by bmarkey 17 April | 11:37
One major hurdle facing broadcasters is the issue of taxation. Those royalties are taxable, some heavily so. So, do a welfare mom a favor and pay up.
posted by mischief 17 April | 11:45
Aaannd... that's what I get for giving the benefit of the doubt, no matter how tiny it was in the first place. Lesson learned.
posted by bmarkey 17 April | 12:41
I didn't mean timed-out. I meant "since you came back." Poor word choice.

But you have been especially combative, mischief. It worries me. You used to be nice.
posted by mudpuppie 17 April | 13:04
"came back" : Did I leave? I'm so confused.
It's possible I left for awhile and I don't remember.
It wouldn't be the first time, that's for certain.

Oh well, I guess I will just stay out of threads that smack of politics.
posted by mischief 17 April | 14:26
My dog peed on my bed just before I got home tonight. || Reallybadjokefilter:

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