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30 March 2007

Despite my inner 'anarchist-leaning libertarian' seething and screaming "TRAITOR!!!" (as well as all due apologies to my dear friend jon), does anyone have any experience with getting a "smoking ban near outdoor bus stops" on a ballot?
They're concidering it here in Vancouver, but that's all that's been said about it. It'll be bandied about for a while and (maybe, probably) be thrust through at the last moment as a grab for votes for someone. I'm kinda for it, in a vague way, but it's still in an open place... really, what's next, anywhere outside at all?
Professional fence-sitter, me...
posted by Zack_Replica 30 March | 23:34
Many of the places in SF forbid smoking within 15 feet of the door. But I'm not sure how you'd really define an outdoor bus stop here -- people kind of mill all over half a block while waiting for the bus.

Do you have details (or thoughts) on how it might work?
posted by occhiblu 30 March | 23:38
Tonight I experienced a rather bizarre situation at a bus stop near a hospital. This idiot, and that's a compliment, plops down in the last space on a bench in the middle of elderly people and lights up. I yelled at him, "Hey asshole!" This is not something I ordinarily yell in public. "That guy next to you has a portable oxygen tank!"
posted by mischief 30 March | 23:44
Smoking is banned on regional transit authority property here (which includes bus shelters and light rail stations) but people ignore that and smoke in them anyway. So good luck.
posted by cmonkey 30 March | 23:57
Chaaaaaaaarming.

Maybe it'd be easier to get a ban on smoking within a certain distance from a hospital?
posted by occhiblu 30 March | 23:58
mischief: "Cool! Fireworks!"
posted by Zack_Replica 31 March | 00:05
I don't know that there's anything un-libertarian about respecting people's right to clean air.
posted by knave 31 March | 00:17
I'm all for banning smoking under bus shelters....but like cmonkey points out, the problem is enforcing it.

I'm still upset about what happened in the subway after the mammogram...the first thing I said to him was this wasn't China--and no, I shouldn't have made the assumption that he was born there. I want to report it to the transit police, but HE claimed he was a cop (maybe in his coke/meth dreams) and a blue cocoon incident was the subject of one of the Ethicist's letters in the NY Times this past week.
posted by brujita 31 March | 00:21
I work at the University of Michigan hospital and smokers have to be (I think) further than 50 yards from the hospital. It's mainly patients that are hovering in our bus stops smoking. They trudge out there rain or shine, with their oxygen, in their hospital gowns and slippers. Their will to smoke is almost frightening.

Our doctors/nurses/support staff tend to just wait it out, it doesn't look good to see someone in scrubs and/or lab coats puffing away where their patients can see them.
posted by blackkar 31 March | 19:09
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