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22 March 2007

... and that's how/why unions destroyed this country.
posted by mischief 22 March | 19:41
We don't take no fuckin' shit from nobody, well, except from Fat Tony who takes 25% of all our dues. He provides certain valuable services for that though, capisce?
posted by caddis 22 March | 21:50
I really can't stand unions. My experience with them is that they provide shelter for employees that should have been fired a long time ago.
posted by youngergirl44 22 March | 22:21
Yeah, like the garbage truck driver who took out my car port right in front of me and tried to blame it on shoddy construction/previous damage ect. Then his supervisors show up and they all have a party behind my place. Damn city employee union is the only one left in town, thankfully.
posted by ironlizard 22 March | 22:35
Well, OK, I made fun, but before this becomes a pile on to unions, I must say that I like unions. Yeah, there are abuses, but they are so important to keeping a balance between employer and employee. Even if you work in a non-union shop the unions are helping you merely through management's fear that if they don't keep a good work environment that the place will go union and they will lose control.
posted by caddis 22 March | 22:46
Even if you work in a non-union shop the unions are helping you merely through management's fear that if they don't keep a good work environment that the place will go union and they will lose control.


Indeed. I agree with you 110% They also keep our kids from drinkin' piss outta the water fountain.

They also got broads out there makin' sure that some hardon doesn't run 'em over.
posted by jason's_planet 22 March | 22:51
"they are so important to keeping a balance between employer and employee"

Ooh, toe that party line!

(just kidding wit' ya)

posted by mischief 23 March | 00:02
The Union forever defending our rights
Down with the blackleg, all workers unite
With our brothers and out sisters from many far off lands
There is power in a Union

I'm a fan of the union. Not so much for knowledge workers as we tend to own our means of production, but for everyone else - yes. For every lazy worker hidden underneath the umbrella of the Union is a boss that'd be having you work every hour god sends for as little money as possible. If management want to make this about maximising profit then damned if I (and all the other workers) shouldn't be dickish about it too.
posted by seanyboy 23 March | 03:06
What seanyboy said.
posted by By the Grace of God 23 March | 03:41
I've already started and erased about five or six responses here.

I was fed and clothed with union wages. The only reason my father isn't any more crippled then he is is due to the union looking out for him. Unions aren't perfect, but if you're an hourly worker you'd be even more screwed than you are now if it weren't for the influence of collective bargaining.
posted by bmarkey 23 March | 03:50
The should read "As a child I was fed... etc.
posted by bmarkey 23 March | 03:52
I'm absolutely pro-union. Despite the warts and pimples, the average worker would be totally fucked without 'em.
posted by taz 23 March | 04:01
I wanna meet one of these 'out sisters'.
posted by mischief 23 March | 04:16
What's the difference between people who see unions the one way and people who see them the other way? In my experience, anyway, it doesn't seem to follow race or gender or social class or education or employment status or any of that kind of stuff.
posted by box 23 March | 06:53
In my limited experience, the difference seems to be whether you've lived for a substantial time in an area with rather corrupt unions. But that's from a sample set of about 2 -- I can't imagine why anyone would be against unions; my closest friend, who's a raging liberal on every other issue, thinks that bad unions basically shut down the Italian economy -- so it may not be true for anyone else.
posted by occhiblu 23 March | 09:24
If you live in NY State, you get to see the real thing on all the time. They're real touchy about budget reductions, yes they are.
posted by tommasz 23 March | 15:12
It would be impossible to work where I work without a strong union.
posted by mlis 23 March | 16:24
mmm. air conditioning || Because we're the richest, most beautiful bunnies around...

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