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18 December 2006

My mother in law got me parenting books for my birthday. Like six of them. Specifically on parenting "difficult" children. [More:] I think she's starting to slip up on the "passive" part of passive-aggressive.
i could whip up a pamphelt on difficult daughters in law and the dangers of disturbing them midgestatively.
posted by ethylene 18 December | 22:54
pamphlet, even, although the phelts are much better for smacking in that "i challenge you to a duel" kind of way.
posted by ethylene 18 December | 22:55
That would be most welcome, eth. In lieu of that, a brief instructional booklet on efficient corpse disposal would also be useful.
posted by jrossi4r 18 December | 22:56
I think you wanna talk to scarabic about corpse disposal.

And yeah, um, she's dropped the passive part. What a peach.
posted by deborah 18 December | 23:00
Guilt and shame on "disturbing the baby" isn't enough? Is she made of self obsessed stone?
If she's breached half a century, she should be weepy enough--
when are you due, if it's not prying...
posted by ethylene 18 December | 23:02
I dislike your mother-in-law, jrossi.

Please feel free to tell her that at the next family gathering, if you think it would hold any traction.
posted by mudpuppie 18 December | 23:07
Ah. Thanks for the reminder, deborah.

March 9 is the scheduled extraction. Third trimester hormones are rough. In fact, I think they can be used as a criminal defense. Or at least as a reason to scream "I hate you and mudpuppie does too!" at Christmas dinner.

posted by jrossi4r 18 December | 23:14
me too. antipathy (for? towards? of? i dunno) your mother in law.

You can share mine. She's awesome.
posted by gaspode 18 December | 23:15
hey jrossi? mr. 'pode just explained your username to me. I feel dumb.
posted by gaspode 18 December | 23:18
If you need ammunition in a holiday fight, please use me. I'm scary. Really.
Feel free to add that into conversation whenever it's handy.

i guess i should add a pompous looking screed against upsetting the expecting to my to do list.
That should be fun.
With pictures of wagging fingers.
posted by ethylene 18 December | 23:20
No reason to feel dumb, 'pode. It's a fairly obscure reference and I actually screwed it up. It should be 2R. (I still think "There's a whore in 4R!" sounds better.)

I had to google yours.
posted by jrossi4r 18 December | 23:24
hey jrossi? mr. 'pode just explained your username to me. I feel dumb.

OMG. Wha -- ? Her name isn't J. Rossi???
posted by mudpuppie 18 December | 23:40
Why does she think your child is going to be "difficult"?

[And I don't get the name.]

I'm just clueless tonight.
posted by matildaben 18 December | 23:42
I have heard no previous stories about your mother-in-law, but I've got your back, too. That's atrocious.
posted by occhiblu 18 December | 23:44
Maybe the gift says more about her experience raising her child (you know, the one you married) than about any lack in your childrearing skills?

I could SO see myself giving my pregnant daughter those books. HER extraction is due the first week of January. Heh.

posted by bunnyfire 18 December | 23:45
Is this where we make up a list of books for you to give your MIL for xmas?

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posted by taz 18 December | 23:51
ha, taz!
posted by gaspode 18 December | 23:54
This is baby #2, matildaben. Number one is the "difficult" one. It's actually kind of awesome how she managed to slag on me and my kid with one act of "generosity." Her child is "the golden boy" who married down, bunnyfire. There's no way it's directed at him.

And Janice Rossi was Henry Hill's mistress in Goodfellas. There's a great scene where his wife goes to her apt. building, hits all the intercom buzzers and announces that there is a "whore" living in apt.4R. Hence, jrossi4r.(Only it's really 2R, so my name is wrong.)

On preview: I love you so much, taz. So much.
posted by jrossi4r 18 December | 23:54
Keep stirring the sauce, Karen!

In the future, consider asking the bitch to limit books about unruly kids to those dealing with ones she's raised herself.

And for the longest time, I scanned your username as "junior ossifer".
posted by trondant 19 December | 00:04
I dislike your mother in law too, jrossi. What an incredibly rude thing to give someone. Would it be horribly inappropriate to give her a bag of poop?

On preview, taz's suggestions are way better.
posted by fenriq 19 December | 00:12
jrossi, for some reason I often get you and mgl confused (I think probably because you both sound like kick-ass moms), and I've somehow decided that each of you have four children. I guess I added up all the offspring, including the wannabe-offspring? Or maybe it's the 4 in your username? I dunno.

So when I read this post I was thinking, "Well, she's got four kids, so what if *one* of them is a little difficult? Give the poor woman a break." Heh.
posted by occhiblu 19 December | 00:15
Also, wait, does this mean it's your birthday? If so, happy birthday!
posted by occhiblu 19 December | 00:19
It is an honor to be mistaken for MGL! (And I officially turn 35 on Thursday. So thank you for the advance b-day wishes.)

Thanks to all of you. To be honest, I'm genuinely deeply hurt by this, have no idea how to address it and haven't been able to stop crying long enough to give it any rational thought. But you've cheered me up and a warm bath helped calm me down and I think I might actually get some sleep. I'll worry about it tomorrow.
posted by jrossi4r 19 December | 00:50
For reals, jrossi? She's nasty, mean and spiteful, and she cares more for dissing you than she cares about her son or grandchild (or grandchild-to-be) - and that's a miserable, miserable person.

Your only mistake is holding out some hope that things will ever change, and trying to accommodate that possibility. It's been - what? - 13 years? That's long enough. It's never going to happen. My advice is to keep your exposure to her to an absolute minimum - once, maybe twice a year, max. (For me, it would be less, but - you know, whatever.) Use whatever reason or excuse you need to use, even if it's outlandish. It doesn't matter. If your husband doesn't get it, just explain that this is one thing that just has to be, and you aren't budging.

It's just not for the best to leave yourself exposed to someone who repeatedly, obsessively attacks you. Just because they are only psychic stabbings doesn't mean they aren't damaging; Give up the hope and be happy.
posted by taz 19 December | 01:24
Aw, jrossi, I didn't get your username either, for the record.

But DAMN, what an awful thing for the MIL to do. My mom tries similar crap on me sometimes, and I was an only child who stayed out of her antisocial way when I was little. I have a pair of kids with half-siblings in another state and she tries to tell me to be more strict with my two gifted/talented, well-behaved ("angelic", even, I'm told by teachers, friends, family, future in-laws, strangers, etc), that I should be harder on them.

Believe me, I'm not an easy-going mom. Loving discipline is my way to go. My kids know they're loved. They also know not to give me any crap, especially in public.

Anyhow, I've told my mom in polite terms to F-off before. We didn't speak for about a month and then she apologized.

Holiday times are a challenge, regardless. Hange in there. And best wishes for when you get that "demon" out of you in March. :-) I didn't enjoy being pregnant either and my boy was born March 31 after a near Herculean effort for him to not be an April Fools kid.

Also, a half glass of wine won't hurt either of you, I swear on me and my former midwives' graves.

(Sorry for the rant, y'all. Several nerves got pinged there.)
posted by lilywing13 19 December | 01:30
Frankly, I think that you shove a fork in that woman's eye at your earliest convenience.

Your username is a Goodfellas reference?! Man am I out of touch.
posted by cmonkey 19 December | 01:38
jrossi, I totally don't care that I missed the joke about your username.

I want to kick your MIL's ass, because you're one of the best moms I know. I love the way you talk about your kid, how smart she is, how much she surprises you.

Please stop crying. Your MIL is just a sad old soul. She's not worth your reaction to the pain she's tried to cause you.

And please tell her I hate her. Kthx.
posted by mudpuppie 19 December | 02:18
Hey MIL, go home and get your fucking shine box!
posted by mullacc 19 December | 02:46
Like taz says, maybe reciprocate with a thank-you gift:
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Or maybe just buy a little something extra for yourself:
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posted by misteraitch 19 December | 05:17
I hope you feel better today, jrossi4r. (I didn't get it either.) You are awesome. That was really mean of your MIL.
posted by rainbaby 19 December | 07:00
Hey jrossi, you're gonna spawn a pisces! It'll be smooth sailing, despite what your evil hose-beast of an MIL says.
posted by muddgirl 19 December | 08:28
oh Taz...where have you been all my life...

JRossi...love your name & your sensitive pregnant self. the best revenge is to smile sweetly and say "thank you for the books." better for her to think you are stupid & didn't get her slam then her think her hatefulness got to you. i might be crazy (no...i AM crazy...but oh well) but with my former mother-in-law, i would smile & nod & bask in the glow of her disappointment over not getting my goat...mwhahahahaha...

i too have a "difficult" first child...but, the older she gets the more i love her more for doing it her own way. she might not be the easiest child, but i love that she takes the path of Most resistance :P
posted by karim satasha 19 December | 08:35
Taz is the BEST. Listen to her & then send your MIL an anonymous box of poisoned chocolate. Fucking bitch from hell. Psychotic demon spawn. Fuck her, the horse she rode in on, her goddamn nerve, her bookstore account and everything else. May her shoes all shrink in the night. May her souffles fall and her hairline rise. I hope she gains 400 pounds, grows hairy warts on her chin and gets mocked in the street. YOU are AWESOME. SHE is SHIT. Keep this equation in mind, for it is true.

I had a psychotic MIL once myself hon. Taz is right; the only answer is to severely limit contact, remember that she's a useless POS and try to maintain your cool. My ex-MIL, fwiw, was a klepto, and she took my daughter out to steal stuff. Entertaining times!

*laughs at occhiblu* If I had 4 kids, I'd be even more freaking insane than I am. 2 kids and 2 dogs: it is enough, although I am honored to be confused with jrossi4r (whose username completely escaped me.)
posted by mygothlaundry 19 December | 09:52
I'm another bunny that didn't get the Goodfellas reference.

Anyhoo - definitely limit contact with the MIL. Her penalty for being such a poisonous person is little contact with her grandchildren.

I hope your husband understands that his mother is not a nice person.
posted by deborah 19 December | 13:15
You know, it's often a relief when I do remember that mgl and jrossi are different people, because I seriously am not sure the world is ready for the awesomeness that would be myjrossilaundry.
posted by occhiblu 19 December | 14:00
Thanks again you guys. I'm feeling much better today. My best friend broke into hysterical laughter when I told her (it IS so awful you have to laugh) and my sister thinks I may be eligible for some kind of government relocation program.

My kid's not even difficult! She's odd, for sure--smart, geeky and tomboyish. And she despises being talked down to. But I like those things about her.

Anyway...I'm going my usual non-reactive route, as karim suggests. It's really my only option. She looooves to play the martyr and will burst into tears at the slightest suggestion of disapproval. I'm not giving her the satisfaction. As Jimmy tells Henry after his first pinch, "Never rat on your friends and always keep your mouth shut." Sound advice.

posted by jrossi4r 19 December | 14:31
Or, in another movie quote metaphor, "Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."

(Glad you're feeling better.)
posted by occhiblu 19 December | 14:44
I feel all safe and happy knowing that the MeCha outrage and hilarity team will spring into action as soon as people's relatives pull this kind of thing.

Congratulations, everyone, and merry Christmas, jrossi.
posted by tangerine 19 December | 14:54
I would tell the mil ''thank you'',then use the pages for toilet paper.
posted by brujita 20 December | 12:10
hey jrossi? mr. 'pode just explained your username to me. I feel dumb.

OMG. Wha -- ? Her name isn't J. Rossi???


How about pronounciation? I always think "juhrossifer" when I see it written.
posted by pieisexactlythree 21 December | 17:32
The sheep don't like it. Stop the cat box, stop the cat box... || Squirrels! OMG!

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