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15 December 2006

This video has been removed due to copyright infringement. Wow, I got two nasty-grams from YouTube this morning about the clips I shot last summer of Rocket From The Tombs playing at the Drive-Invasion fest here in Atlanta. →[More:]

They're threatening to delete my YouTube account. Cameras were allowed at the event, so I thought I was in the clear, but I guess someone (the band?) felt otherwise. How very not punk.

post by: BoringPostcards at: 12:08 | 20 comments

Really. Not punk at all. What did they say?

posted by iconomy 15 December | 12:12

It's just a legelese form letter saying, "We'll delete you if we get any more complaints."

posted by BoringPostcards 15 December | 12:18

I knew YouTube would go downhill when the GOOG bought it.

posted by grouse 15 December | 12:23

Did you show them your tattoo?

posted by Triode 15 December | 12:23

So you can kill users on YouTube just by complaining about their videos? Hoo boy, I'm gonna have a field day with this...

posted by chrismear 15 December | 12:25

Well, that sucks BP. But thanks for linking to that other thread - I'd missed it and it's a good read.

posted by gaspode 15 December | 12:32

You'd need not only a release from the band but also from the venue and possibly the Drive-Invasion fest organizers to be fully legal. Unless it was specified who did the complaining it may have been one of the other parties or even the band's label.

posted by Mitheral 15 December | 13:03

Rocket from the tombs? Is that some incarnation of rocket from the crypt?

posted by court siem 15 December | 13:20

Is YouTube now actively searching out materials that violate copyrights? Or did RFTT, their record company or the venue/organizers notify them?

posted by mullacc 15 December | 13:52

RFTC were the ones who gave free admission to any of their fans who showed a RFTC tattoo at the door, weren't they?

posted by syntax 15 December | 13:57

I guess Google found out just how juicy a target they can be now for lawsuits.

posted by mischief 15 December | 14:27

Google is perfectly immune to lawsuits. Under the DCMA as long as they take down stuff when notified they can't be held liable.

For the same reason it is really unlikely they are actively searching, that kind of thing can cause trouble in the future with your CC status. Much better to just let things slide until notified.

Threating to delete your account though is a legally unnecessary punitive action. Must be a manpower issue.

posted by Mitheral 15 December | 14:36

Threating to delete your account though is a legally unnecessary punitive action. Must be a manpower issue.

At my old college, we used to share copyrighted material over the network. Once a year or so, the IT dept would get a threatening letter from Warner Brothers or FOX or someone, and would send out a bunch of threatening emails, "may lose your network priviledges, blah blah blah". All the freshman would delete their files and all the upperclassmen wouldn't, because it was a completely empty threat backed by pretty much nothing.

posted by muddgirl 15 December | 14:40

"as long as they take down stuff when notified" is not "perfectly immune".

posted by mischief 15 December | 15:04

cough cough (based in France, I believe)

posted by psho 15 December | 15:07

Google is perfectly immune to lawsuits. Under the DCMA as long as they take down stuff when notified they can't be held liable.

It's more complicated than that. The labels want a little "juice" -- licensing fees. In this particular case, the band may be perfectly fine with it, but the label is negotiating with Google.

posted by stilicho 15 December | 15:58

Well, I'm assuming google is on the ball enough to be able to delete stuff from their own servers when given a URL to the material.

posted by Mitheral 15 December | 16:15

Hell, if Google simply bought an ASCAP license, users could pretty much post anything they damn well pleased (of the musical performance variety anyway).

posted by mischief 15 December | 17:51

Punk rock tried to dethrone the Metal. THEY FAILED... as they were thrown to the ground.

Oh shit.. I forgot the poster band for litigious DRM is a metal band...

Sheesh. What fucking bullshit suckage. Does anyone really think you're removing money from their pockets? You're only bringing a done-oh-so-done band back into people's consciousness.

But I guess their brilliant marketers would rather not have any internet buzz. How SAVVY.

posted by scarabic 15 December | 23:39

mischief: ASCAP doesn't cover that, I understand. All their agreements so far are without any middleman, and are strict Google-label contracts. No artists involved, of course.

posted by stilicho 16 December | 02:15

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