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25 September 2006

So... the absense of evidence that Dylan is a lefty means he's a righty? Okay...

I think he's just been smart enough to keep his nose out of politics.
posted by me3dia 25 September | 10:44
he's a self absorbed whinger is what he is, and his songs are greater than he is. No artist retains control over his art's meaning to the public. Folk music is about covering other people's songs, changing and reinterpreting them.

anyway, the godfather of Dylan's music is Arlo Guthrie, so he's got some red in him. tough shit, Bob.
posted by By the Grace of God 25 September | 10:45
This article neglected to mention "Masters of War."

Just sayin'.
posted by danf 25 September | 10:49
the godfather of Dylan's music is Arlo Guthrie

Woody Guthrie.

That thin article is a crock of shit.

And what me3dia said.
posted by peacay 25 September | 11:23
I agree, Grace. Overall, Dylan's an unpleasant person who unfortunately writes good songs.
posted by halonine 25 September | 11:23
i was just about to mention 'masters of war', which seems like a pretty unambiguous condemnation of, uhh, war and stuff..

but danf was way ahead of me
posted by Wedge 25 September | 11:24
Folk music is about covering other people's songs, changing and reinterpreting them.

Dylan's no folkie. And he makes no bones about the fact that he's not primarily a protest singer, although he wrote some good protest songs. And while he leans left generally, he's no party-liner, which only increases my respect for the man.

he's a self absorbed whinger is what he is


Of course he is, that's kind of the point. Read Greil Marcus' The Old Weird America, it kind says all there is to say on the subject better than I could.

i was just about to mention 'masters of war', which seems like a pretty unambiguous condemnation of, uhh, war and stuff..

Sadly, that's nowhere near his best song, or even his best political song. (his best protest number would be 'Only A Pawn In Their Game' IMHO).
posted by jonmc 25 September | 11:28
Oh, sure. The composer of "Masters of War", "Only a Pawn in Their Game", "The Ballad of Hollis Brown", "A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall", "Talking World War III Blues", "Oxford Town", "With God On Our Side", and "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll"--big time states-rights advocate who generally was ambivalent about war and advocated tax cuts for the rich.
posted by interrobang 25 September | 11:50
Yeah, this article's a crock of shit, too. He's no more a conservative than he was a lefty house organ. When somebody is as brilliant as Dylan everybody wants to make him theirs.
posted by jonmc 25 September | 12:02
physically?
posted by matteo 25 September | 12:22
and, congratulazioni giovanni!
posted by matteo 25 September | 12:23
Well, and not to mention that the pressure on Dylan to "lead" was so great that it was bound to inspire a backlash. Arguably the most redemtive thing about Dylan is that he didn't want to become a SuperStarSized Pete Seeger.

The talk about him saying "I'll be busy tonight" in response to being asked about attending an anti-war protest is disingenuous at best: he was in town to play a show, that's why he was laughing as he answered. The journalist was too stupid to understand the most basic context in which he was asking his questions.
posted by omiewise 25 September | 12:30
he plays harmonica like a republican
posted by dodgygeezer 25 September | 12:51
physically?

Heh. Don't conjure up weird mental audio images of a man breathing heavily into a harmonica.
posted by jonmc 25 September | 13:03
According to J. Baez, When the Ship Comes In is the most protesty/lefty Mr. Zimmermann ever got. Lyrics

And Chimes of Freedom is a real Republican toe-taper, too.

What lying sacks of poo these wingnuts are.
posted by warbaby 26 September | 08:48
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