don't look at me- I assumed he couldn't breed with humans.

It would have helped a lot if you had put that in a MORE INSIDE.

Since some of us haven't seen it yet.

i'll adjust it..hang on

fixed...i didn't know it was a secret...lots of reviews have mentioned it in the papers.

I have no desire to see it so don't really care, but i'd say that Superman is jerk, and they purposely wrote it to show that he's not perfect really at all. They say he's more real in this movie, and that's probably part of it.

Isn't this the same film where digitally reduced the size of the Breadbasket of Steel?

Well, he didn't know she was pregnant...
And it seemed to me that Lois didn't even know who the real father was...so maybe she's a bit of a tart then, huh?! ;)

In the comics, Supes and Wonder Woman have a kid and she kicks ass.

MORE INSIDE

That's what she said. /ducks

Well, he didn't know she was pregnant...
And it seemed to me that Lois didn't even know who the real father was...so maybe she's a bit of a tart then, huh?! ;)

In the comics, Supes and Wonder Woman have a kid and she kicks ass.

I read a detailed review of the movie and decided it sounded like the most insane thing ever.

This year's edition of Sooperman looks like Christopher Reeve and Chris Noth gave birth to a soap opera actor.

There -- I said it.

I have to agree with the reviews that said the most exciting things happened at the beginning of the movie, and Lex Luthor's plot was just... eh.

I do love Kevin Spacey. The admin offices of the Old Vic are on the floor beneath my friend's offices. Kevin favors the goofy chapeau and walks his tiny Paris-Hilton-style dog on a lead. At least he doesn't tuck it under his arm.

Also:

Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex

Outraged?

So we're under a spoiler warning here? We can discuss important plot elements?

Ok

DOULBLE-U TEE EFF SUPERMAN?!
He fights a mother lovin ISLAND?! THAT's the big battle? What's next? Superman v. penunsila?!
And he can keep his powers in the presence of kryptonite if he REALLY TRIES HARD AND THE AUDIENCE CLAPS?!

I don't want to imagine the kind of cast-iron condom would be needed to block Superman's monstrous spermatozoa

The interesting thing for me about seeing Superman Returns with an audience was observing that people don't seem to require the sense of an ending for summer movies as much as they used to. At about the 2:20 mark, people just sort of decided that they'd seen enough of Superman lifting increasingly heavy things to get their money's worth and started drifting out, alone or in twos and threes. (The people I saw leaving didn't seem as if they had kids waiting at home, and it was a night showing, so I assume they didn't have any pressing appointments to make.)

I liked the movie fine enough. I liked the title sequence; I liked the visual effects and production design; I liked the photography, digitally treated as it was; I liked the thug who had the tattoo of a clown's face on the back of his head (probably the most inspired bit of filmmaking in the whole movie). There was one three-second visual effects sequence in which the viewer gets not an idea of what it's like to be Superman, but an idea of what it's like to live as a regular person in a city in which Superman also lives (remember, it's just a shot of a crowded city street with people going about their business, and then a red-and-blue blur goes by and one little kid says "It's Superman!" while many other people are still going about their business and a few more track the blur with their eyes). I thought that was really cool.

I did not like the inclusion of the Superkid at all, nor did I like the way in which the filmmakers depicted him as Asperger-ish in order to work their way around the fact that, unlike Superman at a young age (if memory serves), he hasn't managed to figure out that he has superpowers. I foresee that character completely ruining the next film.

Oddly enough, Superman was more convincing when he was computer-generated than he was when he was performed by a real actor. I don't know if that's a comment on Routh's acting, or on how good CG effects are these days.

Point One: Superman is a dick.

Point Two: Even if a condom had been used, wouldn't the super-sperm tear right through?

Point Three: psho beat me to the link.

Point Four: What do you expect from a comic book series that had (already) lasped into becoming a soap opera?

Point Five: There was already a Superman Junior in the early 70's, not counting the "Sons of Superman" in the 50's, which followed the "Mr. & Mrs. Superman" featurettes in Action Comics. (I could reiterate point four, but I'll digress.)

Point Six: Hey, it's a movie. You could've spent 10 bucks on a nice dinner, or a Bogart rental and microwave popcorn. But nooooooo...

Hellooooo..this is set right after Superman II, where he gives up his power in that crystal tanning booth thingy at his ice fortress in order to be with Lois and they like think its going to be forever (hence the perceived lack of need for a condom, especially back in 1980 when the movie was made and how do you know Lois wasn't wearing a diaphragm or something anyway and the movie's SuperMAN, not SuperCONTRACEPTION), but then he has to get his powers back to fight Zod, the creepy biatch, and the big oaf and then later he "Super kisses" her and she forgets who she is although apparently its just knee-jerk denial because in the new film she's all like "you my baby daddy" and hostile and shit and

hell, just see Smart Dalek's point 6 above.

Tetsuo is exactly right! Wow.
I'd forgotten about the post-unpower liason in the Fortress of Solitude. Of course, maybe it is giving far too much credit to the continuity folks to make that connection.

I'm just thinking about what it would be like to screw the Man of Steel. I mean, he must have marvelous staying power! And the flying thing? Hoo boy!

I thought it was interesting, but not because no one cares that Lois and Supes got it on and she got knocked up -- but the way she handled it and what's not said about THAT is intresting. I mean, she banged the Man of Steel, and then he goes off on a "find myself"/"Mid-life Crisis" inter-space journey and she's knocked up . . . .so she finds the most successful, nice, and apparently stupid as a rock guy she can find, hooks up, shacks up (but never marries him - apparently waiting on Supes to come back) -- and all of this apparently in the name of protecting this kid.

I think in some circles that's called "gold-digging." Or finding out that you are not, indeed, the baby-daddy.

Re: the kid and superpowers - I sort of thought that the whole allergy thing was something Lois had cooked up to cover his powers. I don't know - they're sporadic at the moment (he's not a 100% Kryptonian, right?) and they manifest when he's upset (same as his asthma) so . . . The whole thing with the piano - when he apologized I thought that it seemed as if he had known that might happen. Like there'd been an unfortunate incident with an over-excited kindergartner and a . . . . nevermind. You get it.

This is old, but I just saw the movie, and I liked it, sort of. I liked that the husband was a) physically similar to Superman and b) strong and kind and brave and obviously aware that the kid wasn't his, and still loving him. He was a good man.

Where did Clark Kent go, though? He seemed like much more of a doofus than I remember, and he just sort of disappeared halfway through the film.