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20 February 2006

So did anyone post this yet? Because I don't remember seeing it. So here it is, for those that don't read the smoking gun. Words fail me.
"Contract of Wifely Expectations"--that sought to establish guidelines for his spouse in terms of hygiene, clothing, and sexual activities.

Sunds like Mormonism.
posted by jelly 20 February | 21:36
Um... yeah, maybe not so much.
posted by gaspode 20 February | 21:38
BTW -- a lively discussion continues over at MeFi about this.
posted by ericb 20 February | 21:39
See! I knew I missed it!! (how did I miss it?)
posted by gaspode 20 February | 21:41
yikes
posted by richat 20 February | 21:42
Hay, when we gonna get a religion were the wife makes her husbands do what she wants? I say we invent it.
posted by jelly 20 February | 21:42
If by "lively" you mean a bunch of people pulling things out of their collective asses, sniffing each others findings, and turning up their noses.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson 20 February | 21:45
Oh and yeah yeah consensual BDSM contracts and all that. But this just doesn't kind of look like that.
posted by gaspode 20 February | 21:45
"Hay, when we gonna get a religion were the wife makes her husbands do what she wants? I say we invent it."

It's called "marriage."
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson 20 February | 21:46
I didn't want to get involved in the discssion on Mefi, because I fail to understand the "BDSM community" who say this sort of contract can be perfectly natural. I mean, as I understood it, that sort of sub-dom stuff goes down in the bedroom, with safe words, and with the people getting on with ordinary, free, normal lives, respecting and loving each other, the rest of the time. I kind of feel that any sort of "contract" that extends into everyday activities, and into 24-hour control and submission, fits into an entirely different category. However, it's entirely probably that I just don't "get" it.

Hay, when we gonna get a religion were the wife makes her husbands do what she wants?

Interesting that I've actually seen quite a few examples comparable to the above contract recently - similar cases where someone has essentially been held a sexual prisoner based on some alleged agreement or contract - and not one put the man into the submissive position. It doesn't feel like a sexual game as much as the complete denegration of a woman.
posted by Jimbob 20 February | 21:48
Ack, now looking through the thread that I totally missed, I'm sorry I posted it here.
posted by gaspode 20 February | 21:49
Hay, when we gonna get a religion were the wife makes her husbands do what she wants?
Is there one where this doesn't happen?

Like Jimbob, I just don't "get" this kind of thing, but I am more and more aware of having led a somewhat sheltered life, so what do I know?
posted by dg 20 February | 22:28
-another vote for i dont "get" bdsm.

when people talk about "doms" and "subs", i get a little creeped out. what's wrong with just regular ol' humping... without all the silly costumes, make-believe, bullying, belittling, humiliation, etc? IMHO, it sounds more like people acting out past sexual abuse/trauma than anything even remotely approaching "sexy" or "hot".

hey perverts: flame me
posted by Wedge 20 February | 22:40
Well, I was thinking hubendS. Anyway, I've met one guy that was into BDSM and he would tell me that if either partner felt coerced or abused then they where not doing it the right way. I guess that's the line between play and actual rape. In the end, I still don't get it either and i don't think I want to.
posted by jelly 20 February | 22:43
"/!\ WARNING: WEDGE IS A KNOWN TROLL /!\"

Your user page speaks volumes.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson 20 February | 22:46
Well, y'all. See I didn't mean to post this as an anti-BDSM thing, because I'm very pro-it. So feel free to not get me, either. Which is why upon reading the 'filter, I said I wished I hadn't put this up.

Nah, it was the points system, and the Good Days and that stuff. It doesn't really read like a BDSM contract. And that whole "+7 for expected anal sex; +14 for unexpected" or whatever, just seems...off, somehow.
posted by gaspode 20 February | 22:51
hey perverts: flame me

Nah, a good spanking seems in order. Assume the position, Wedge ...

As for the contract, I gave it a second look, thinking it was just possible this was a consensual game, but like gaspode it really didn't look like that. If it were consensual then it would be full of situations that would make her hot, and they just didn't seem to be there.
posted by stilicho 20 February | 22:59
It sort of reads like a 14-year-old virgin's idea of what a BDSM contract might be like -- sortakinda like one, but with no concept of the give and take that's actually involved.
posted by me3dia 20 February | 23:07
hey different strokes for different folks, right? far be it from me to stop anyone from shoving AA batteries into their partner's dong or forcing them to lick poo from their stiletto heels. i'm just saying that KNEELING BEFORE ZOD doesnt seem very democratic, and i've always considered reciprosity to be the foundation of a healthy, symbiotic relationship.

i guess what i'm also wondering is- how is a t-shirt + panties/boxers NOT hot? whats up with the leather?
posted by Wedge 20 February | 23:08
Here's a real-life slave contract that a friend of mine and his partner devised.
posted by WolfDaddy 20 February | 23:14
Sounds like Mormonism.


Mormons in stiletto heels?

Yeah, I felt that some people where using that mefi post to show off that they're BSDM and open minded and stuff.

As to the contract - that Star Trek font definitely adds to the creepiness (already present by the whole one-sidedness of the deal).

I'm considering making a joke about finding someone who married and birthed to some creep who asked them to sign (and initial) a contract like that, but I'm feeling icky already.
posted by porpoise 20 February | 23:29
now that i think about it, i wouldn't mind having a sissy maid. are they expensive or do you guys suppose they'd get off on being underpaid?
posted by Wedge 20 February | 23:33
i get a little creeped out. what's wrong with just regular ol' humping... without all the silly costumes, make-believe, bullying, belittling, humiliation, etc?


It's so, ..., vanilla.
posted by Mitheral 21 February | 00:31
Like I said in the other thread...if a guy presented me with something like this I'd run far away.

Add me to the list of people who don't get 24/7 slave/master relationships. Bedroom I can see. Day-to-day life...no.
posted by sisterhavana 21 February | 09:07
I'd get into BDSM but I just can't stand the bureaucracy.
posted by dodgygeezer 21 February | 09:21
This is not BDSM as I know it ("Safe, Sane, and Consensual"). This is some creepy shit. This is slavery. I couldn't read past the front page.
posted by matildaben 21 February | 09:41
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