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10 January 2006

Why do people hate the subway? I am so overinvested in this question, but dammit, JUST TAKE THE SUBWAY. It loves you. It caresses you. Dammit.
I swear, I want to go back for answer #4 and be like: in a cab, you'll miss the awesome experience of aboveground subway travel and looking into people's windows. You'll miss the giant hole. (Jon, is the giant hole still there?) TAKE THE SUBWAY. Why do I care so much?
posted by dame 10 January | 12:13
I don't understand subway hate, either. I have friends in the city who moan about not having cars, and I'm thinking, are you crazy???? I thank the Lord everyday I don't have to have a car- they're nothing but hassles (and money!!)
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 10 January | 12:14
And I love looking into people's apartments on the N/W, too. There's an apartment along the route that has almost the exact same old flowered couch we have.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 10 January | 12:15
cabs and limo's are for rich people. They are different than you and me.
What's sexier than a train? Especially an elevated train?
posted by Hellbient 10 January | 12:23
Why do people in my neighborhood insist on walking down the middle of the street when there's a perfectly good sidewalk?
posted by danostuporstar 10 January | 12:24
Do you live in a dangerous neighborhood, dano? Maybe they're trying not to get mugged.

Also, hellbient, even if a cab was $2, I think I'd still take the train. It's the best part of NYC as far as I am concerned.
posted by dame 10 January | 12:26
I too love the subway. And love not having a car. One of my happiest days in recent times was selling my car (on my last day in Baltimore.)
posted by gaspode 10 January | 12:28
when it's running well and not assholes-to-elbows crowded (and provided I'm not sharing a seat with some drunk who's just pissed himself), I like the subway, too. I can read and nap during my commute. Beats driving all to hell.

and What giant hole??
posted by jonmc 10 January | 12:31
Hole up now, I like the train as much as anyone else (Rah rah Yamanote-sen) but taking a cab across the 59th St. bridge when there's construction and it's slow affords me a lengthy look in the windows of some richly appointed pads.
posted by Hugh Janus 10 January | 12:34
The one you can see from the N/W, near the bridge. It was a big hole with lots of layers you could see inside, a building basement or something. It was there a year ago and it was awesome.
posted by dame 10 January | 12:36
the one by the high school? I dunno, I guess it's still there.
posted by jonmc 10 January | 12:38
I can't control myself. Somehow, this won't end well.
posted by dame 10 January | 12:39
Are you saying the hole is gone, Hugh? (Also, date, a week from tomorrow.) Jon, I don't know what it's near, I only saw ot twice.
posted by dame 10 January | 12:41
i love the subway too, but to and from airports it's a pain, esp with luggage. (i used to always take the A to JFK--the train to the plane--but it took hours.)
posted by amberglow 10 January | 12:41
(c) The 7 is lame.

My dad grew up off the 46st/Bliss St station on the 7. My first serious girlfriend lived off the Main Street stop. I have a sentimental attachment to that line.

Stop chewing up my memories, you monster!

*cries*
posted by jonmc 10 January | 12:43
Only if you have too much shit. And frankly, I think it should be illegal to have more shit than you can carry yourself.

I take the L to the A to JFK and it's less than an hour door-to-door, even if the first A is a Lefferts Gardens train. Plus, who the fuck wants to sit on a bus? And what's with people willingly going through the Midtown Tunnel. And more to the point, why does this wind me up?
posted by dame 10 January | 12:45
. (i used to always take the A to JFK--the train to the plane

Ha! Remember that commercial?

"Take the train to the plane, take the train to the plane..."
posted by jonmc 10 January | 12:47
Jon, I think I've only taken the 7 once. It was just in response to the inane "reprazent" and the suggestion that taking the 7 from Grand Central to Times Square is better than the S, even though the 7 is like in the pit of hell there.

And you know, the platform at Hoyt-Scheremerhorn that was for the train to the plane is still empty and desolate and sad.
posted by dame 10 January | 12:48
I mispelled "hold."
posted by Hugh Janus 10 January | 12:53
The subway=New York. I can't imagine what this city would be without it.
Maybe out-of-towners don't realize how accessible and easy it is to use. The DC train, for example, is nice and quiet, but just doesn't compare on a practical level.

Dame - in Richmond, VA, there's supposedly an Indian curse that says you cannot really leave the city unless you carry all your belongings up a stretch of Monument Ave. In many ways, I haven't left...

*Did you ever think you'd be able to pay for a Metrocard with your credit card?*
posted by Hellbient 10 January | 12:53
I got me a nice case of tourist hate at the S once. This blonde chick in a pink Yankees hat (I hate miscolored sports memorabilia with a passion) saw a packed S arriving and turned to her companion and said "Aw, it's crowded. Maybe some of 'em will get off." I couldn't resist, "They all get off, lady, it's a one stop train."

(The guy who drives the S must get really bored after awhile)
posted by jonmc 10 January | 12:53
Hellbient, which part of you do they still have?

Jon, that's hilarious. Did you really say "lady"? Because that's such a brilliant New York stereotype. And yeah, poor S train motorman. It must be the motorman equivalent of the cop in a box position.

Finally, speaking of subways, can I tell you The Taking of Pelham 123 is one of my favorite movies ever? I want to watch it right now.
posted by dame 10 January | 13:00
Excellent, jon!

While we're still talking about subways, who knew that the walk from the J to the L was so damn short. 10 minutes or so walking from the Flushing Ave J stop to the Montrose Ave L stop. (Okay, maybe 12 or 15).

The best thing this has done for me is to teach me how the L train really corners. I'm moving to an apt near the Grand stop in a couple of weeks and I've always been confused trying to correlate the MTA map with the actual streets. Liars. 90 degree turns!
posted by nobody 10 January | 13:01
Jon, that's hilarious. Did you really say "lady"?

I'm not sure. As I recall, they looked sheepish afterwards so I said "Don't worry. Nobody knows anything till they learn it." I don't have it in me to truly mean.
posted by jonmc 10 January | 13:06
Dame, maybe a quarter of my heart is still there, but I'm slowly getting it all back. I have too many friends there to let go completely. Once or twice a year I have to fight requests to move back.

Yeah, the S. Ugh. Life on a line segment. It's close to operating a ride at the state fair. I hope they rotate those guys.

Pelham 123 is awesome. That speeding car scene through Astor Place is amazing.
posted by Hellbient 10 January | 13:06
Public transit is great, except when it's used as a rent-free mobile apartment and restroom Futurama rocks.
posted by porpoise 10 January | 13:11
The subway chase scene in The French Connection is pretty fuckin' badass, too.
posted by jonmc 10 January | 13:13
Also, date, got it.
posted by Hugh Janus 10 January | 13:17
nobody, it used to be worse, and kinda awesome at the same time.
posted by Hellbient 10 January | 13:21
actually, i meant to link to this one.

What is it about old maps?
posted by Hellbient 10 January | 13:25
Map story: I was at Whole Foods the other day, looking at some laminated transit map and they had reversed the Morgan and Montrose stops. Weird.
posted by dame 10 January | 13:26
That's the Warriors map!
posted by dame 10 January | 13:27
I have that original map, the '72. I found it jammed in a book in a thrift store. Score!
posted by Hellbient 10 January | 13:36
Color me jealous.
posted by dame 10 January | 13:38
Also, did you notice the K? It follows the J but goes up Sixth Ave. so you don't have to transfer at Essex/Delancey.
posted by dame 10 January | 13:43
I'm thankful for the subway just about every day.
posted by safetyfork 10 January | 13:55
also, the cheesteak grease from my lunch has made my keyboard all shiny. It shimmers, dude.
posted by jonmc 10 January | 13:56
I hate miscolored sports memorabilia with a passion
I share this passion. Pink sports stuff is especially egregious (although I'll make a slight exception for the breast cancer promo stuff).

If we had public transport out here, I'd use it. But I am in boony town.
posted by jrossi4r 10 January | 13:56
I hate miscolored sports memorabilia with a passion
I share this passion.


I also once saw a dude wearing a Braves cap and a Yankees jacket. Don't mix two teams from the same sport. Makes you look unreliable.
posted by jonmc 10 January | 14:01
As far as I'm concerned, cars are for leaving new york.
Taxis are for people who feel suicidal, but want to be surprised by the exact moment of death.
The subway is for gettin around.

Though I admit, I grab a cab if the weather gets wet.
posted by mosch 10 January | 14:17
did you notice the K?
oh, no I did not. Man, I would take that every day if it was still around, or if it was 1972.
thank you. Second time you've enlightened me today, dam. Keep it coming?
posted by Hellbient 10 January | 14:31
shit, dame.
sorry, i got called into a meeting and hit post too quickly.
posted by Hellbient 10 January | 14:49
Well, dame, the poster was asking about ways to get to the airport, which implies that they probably have a lot of baggage in tow.

Replace "baggage" with the three trash bags full of used clothing that you're trying to divest and it might make more sense, no?
posted by mudpuppie 10 January | 14:57
I like the subway. I like all subways I've been on. They are speedy and cheap. I had to talk Mrs Chewy onto the subway when we were in NYC in November. But afterward she was like, yeah! let's take the subway!
posted by chewatadistance 10 January | 15:29
On the 7: It's the cheapest way I have of getting to work (Q28 to 7, to C/E, to Spring) and thus I love it muchly. Where else can you get a fantastic view of the graffiti'd warehouse? I do not love it when I can only get a seat after Queensboro Plaza, but I deal.

On LGA to Times Square: With bags, cab and/or car service. But it depends on how many bags. If it's a weekend trip, subway. If it's a two week visit, cab/car service. I like the convenience.

On having a car: I really should give mine up because it's such a money drain (car insurance, gas, fixing up the damn thing). However, it came in handy when my friend broke his leg and I love being able to drive to the grocery store and go nuts on buying stuff, so in my posession it remains. What I'd like to do the most, though, is buy a new or slightly used scooter. There's a boroughs-friendly vehicle.
posted by TrishaLynn 10 January | 16:36
Oooo, like a Vespa or something? Oh man, that'd be so chic.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 10 January | 18:14
Man, if you people have too much baggage to take the subway, you don't know how to pack. The three garbage bags worth of clothes is enough for like a year. Phhht. Fucking overpacking pussies.
posted by dame 10 January | 21:01
Motherfuckers who just drag they bags behind them should be pushed in front of the train. If you have a load on wheels and it ain't in front of you, you ain't watching it! Don't look all angry at me when I kick it over so it don't run over my foot. Strollers go in front, hand carts go in front, your fucking bag goes in front too, or you hump it like the contributing member of society you are. Or are you too fat and weak to carry your own bag? Fuckers I HATE.
posted by Hugh Janus 11 January | 08:55
(Old people get a bye)

[unless they're assholes about it]
posted by Hugh Janus 11 January | 08:57
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