sis boom bah - have sex in the stall
rah rah ree - show a fake ID?

I've been looking for their mugshots all day. Didn't think to check yahoo. *forehead slap*

That one one the right isn't too good.

What's wrong with the one on the right compared to the one on the left? They look like badly drawn caricatures to me.

They both have badly over plucked eyebrows. They both have badly dyed hair. Both of them are way too skinny. I wouldn't be surprised at all if both of them dabble in the dreaded tweaking dust. Which might explain how they came to find themselves in each others arms in a frickin' nasty bar bathroom.

And they both have that sort of vacant stares you can only get being commodified as a sex object. I'm neither titillated nor repulsed. Just pitious.

Looking for their mugshots all day? What the hell is wrong with you? What, were you expecting Penthouse Letters or something? Perfectly airbrushed hips, lips and tits? Slickened slits and beckoning stares whispering "Come join us... in the women's bathroom"?

Geez loquacious, take it down a couple notches. I was looking for their pictures because they were described on the radio and I was interested. All day because I'm not a very good multitasker and really didn't look very hard.

I didn't think the one of the left looked too bad, but I guess I have low standards. the one on the right has a comicly large nose.

Sorry, man. This wouldn't even be news if they weren't freakin' quasi-sex-object cheerleaders. Buncha steaming horseshit on a stick.

I realize my aesthetic tastes are different than what is popularly promoted as beauty, but I'm getting freaking grumpy and cantekerous. Those women would look just fine and natural if they didn't, y'know, abrade the fuck out of their countenance with chemicals, tweeze their eyebrows into unnatural, constantly surprised looking arches and maybe ate a fucking sandwich already.

I'm not blaming them. Nor you. I'm blaming a society with whacked out priorities.

I'm living on the wrong fucking planet/timeline/dimension. I'm sure of it.

No I think you're pretty much right on the money. Sadly.

This is standard fare at most of the clubs I used to go. Usually it was people getting high in the stalls instead of screwing although I am fairly certain that was happening as well. Sometimes there would be six different people packed into one stall. Sounded like a convention of nasal spray enthusiasts. Not that I speak from experience or would ever, ever do such a thing.

Sucks when you have to pee.

Y'know what's weird? I've noticed more incidences of powder residue on bathroom fixtures at sports bars then I have at, say, goth/industrial clubs.

I think that's just 'cause the goth/industrial kids are better equipped and enjoy having an array of toys to augment their chemical romances.

The whole thought of snarfing up some insuffulate-ables off of a toilet lid is just seriously gross. It's not like it's not gross enough to begin with.

I know a few people that like to occasionally huff cans of air duster and also do coke. I guess I'd rather them do coke but damn, come on.

Yeah, they really need to not do that. They might as well huff spraypaint.

They do know that in many states they can legally buy nitrous oxide cartridges from headshops, gourmet specialty shops or restaurant supply stores, right?

I'm not a huge fan of coke 'cause it tends to turn people into ragingly insane egomaniacs, but in retrospect I kind of miss the 80s. At least they got a bunch of shit done back then, rather than amateur all-night auto repair and appliance dismantling.

Of course, most of the shit being done in the 80s was totally insane crap, but they sure looked sharp while doing it.

They do know that in many states they can legally buy nitrous oxide cartridges from headshops, gourmet specialty shops or restaurant supply stores, right?

i've been thinking about this. i think this is only sort of true. yes, you can probasbly buy these canisters. no, this is not the same thing as the nitrous that you get at the dentist. in an unusual coincidence, the chemical name nitrous oxide is not properly used -- it actually can commonly refer to two different chemical formulae.
i believe it is likely that most of what you're getting at these places is not the good shit, to veer off into scientific jargon. it's only a little of the good shit mixed with a bunch of the shit that gets combusted out the back of an auto-car. most of the effect people are probably getting off this is simply the huffing effect -- lack of O2 to yon brainpiece.
i could well be wrong. this is speculation, and i am not a chemist. but i think i am right.


also: jayzis kristo attack societies if you feel like it, for their treatment of women, but you're just as guilty as those you disdain if you trash these poor women for how they look -- for failing to meet your particular standards of beauty. they're individuals, not representatives of some group. there could be a billion reasons why they look they way they look. don't project anything onto individuals. if you have problems with society, deal with the society, but you're overlooking a huge point of hypocrisy if you insult the appearance of these two people.
/soapbox

I keep a can of air duster by me at all times. Not to huff it of course, it's a multipurpose tool. Clean out the computer, blow the knats off my monitor, and works in leu of a spray bottle when the cats act up. They hate it.

And occasionally, I'll look at the contents: 1,1,1,2 tetrofluoroethane. Nice. And I'm pretty sure you can buy nitrous oxide in Texas. Or at least large quantities of whipped cream. What a dumb move.

Whenever I develop a curiousity about this sort of incident, I go to Fark. There will be a thread, they will have pictures.

sam wrote a bunch of erroneous stuff about nitrous oxide and: i could well be wrong. this is speculation, and i am not a chemist. but i think i am right.

Trust me. You're very, very wrong on this issue.

For a whole bunch of info: Erowid.org on nitrous oxide.

You're probably confusing nitrous oxide with nitric oxide. Nitric oxide is very poisonous. It's extremely unlikely you'll ever accidentally buy nitric oxide in place of nitrous oxide, unless you have a habit of making really bad typos when ordering directly from chemical and gas supply companies.

Whipped cream cartridge manufacturers will never intentionally or accidentally substitute NITRIC oxide in place of NITROUS oxide. Why? Well, for one, they're moderately regulated. For two, there's a chemically sound reason why they use nitrous oxide as a propellant with whipped cream cans and cartridges, and not something like butane or propane. A) Nitrous oxide is relatively safe for humans, therefore keeping their customers alive and B) Nitrous oxide chemically dissolves in fats and lipids. It's not just making tiny bubbles in the cream, it's actually dissolving into the cream and setting up a chemical reaction in the fat molecules in the cream.

This is also one of the reasons why nitrous oxide is a viable dissociative anaesthetic, and one of the ways it acts upon the body.

The only real difference between medical/dental nitrous oxide and the stuff in food service whippet carts is the fact that the medical grade stuff is classified as medical grade, and the food grade stuff is classified as food grade, and they generally have different production and distribution paths.

The physical difference between the two has to do with impurity levels in the gas, moisture content, particulate matter and the cleanliness of the containment/delivery system.

It should be noted that the whipped cream cartridges have soft lead seals which are pierced by the delivery system, which can lead to lead particles being created during the mechanical seal-piercing and gas-delivery process. The purple anodized ISI brand cartridges have the least amount of particulate lead, as compared to the gray/blue painted EZ Whip brand cartridges. This difference between the two brands is due to the quality and cleanliness of the manufacturing process involved in making the cartridges, whether or not the cartridges have been recycled and the accuracy in manufacturing the lead seal. For the very casual user, the risks involved here approach zero.

There is also "automotive grade", which may or may not have sulfur in it, depending on the source and use. Sulfur is also toxic. Thankfully sulfur also smells terrible, so it's extremely easy to determine if a particular batch of nitrous oxide has been sulfured or not. "Pure" nitrous actually smells sweet, sulfured nitrous smells like bad eggs, and it will also impart a hideous burning sensation if you even attempt to inhale it. Automotive grade also can be much, much more "impure" or dirty as compared to medical or food grade.

"Combusted out of the back of an auto-car"? If you mean "carbon monoxide" - that is an odorless, tasteless, colorless deadly and deadly poisonous gas, not a mere lack of breathable oxygen. Carbon Monoxide poisoning is NOT suffocation. You will not find carbon monoxide in whipped cream canisters or cartridges.

Jesus, I can't believe you even put that into words. Now I'm worried some kid is going to read this thread and think he can get high sucking on a tailpipe. For the record: NO. NO. MOTHERFUCKIN' NO ON A STICK, NO! DO NOT SUCK ON TAILPIPES! IT IS NOT EVEN REMOTELY THE SAME THING AS NITROUS OXIDE. IT WON'T GIVE YOU ANY KIND OF BUZZ AT ALL. IT WILL KILL YOU, AND YOU WON'T EVEN KNOW IT'S KILLING YOU BECAUSE YOU'LL SIMPLY FALL ASLEEP AND THEN DIE. YOU WILL AUTOMATICALLY QUALIFY FOR A DARWIN AWARD, AND YOUR DEATH WILL MOST LIKELY BE RULED AS AN INTENTIONAL SUICIDE.

Nitrous oxide is not the same as: Huffing glue, paint, airduster, hairspray, gasoline/petrol, solvents, or other inhalants. It's not even remotely related to these sorts of chemicals or the same class really stupid things to do. It's technically not an inhalant in the same sense as these things, most of which are extremely toxic volatile petrochemicals.

While I won't go so far as to classify nitrous oxide use/abuse as inherently safe, but given the choice between someone using nitrous oxide as a recreational substance and someone using airduster or solvents as a recreational substance, I will always and forever recommend that they choose nitrous rather than any other sort of inhalant.

And finally: Nitrous oxides physiological actions are not the same as mere oxygen deprivation. If that were the case, I'd take up yoga as a life-long serious pursuit, becoming a master of breath control and spend the rest of my life cultivating year-long orgasms that would make mere mortals tremble and weep in the face of their insurmountable magnitude.

Trust me, I've already tried. Kundalini rising or no, it's not even remotely the same thing.

I'll respond to sam's second - and much more valid - critique in the next post.

you're just as guilty as those you disdain if you trash these poor women for how they look -- for failing to meet your particular standards of beauty. they're individuals, not representatives of some group. there could be a billion reasons why they look they way they look. don't project anything onto individuals. if you have problems with society, deal with the society, but you're overlooking a huge point of hypocrisy if you insult the appearance of these two people.

Mea culpa. You're right. Y'know, I wouldn't bitch about a transgender attempting to ascribe to the same aesthetic ideals, but when it's cheerleaders, it bothers me.

Why? I guess it has to do with levels of awareness and intent. The transvestite/transgender is doing it to transform themselves - most likely due to gender dysphoria, and it's what they have to work with. There's a willfullness of intent there.

I feel (and wrongfully generalize) that the cheerleaders that do it are doing so because they've been told that's what they're supposed to do. They've been told this by the media, the beauty industry, by society, whatever.

To me there's a difference. I don't really know why. What makes it more valid to me that someone will do it ironically, say as part of a costume or assumed role, say for Burning Man, or Rocky Horror Picture Show nights, but less valid when it's just some people trying to get by and get a job?

Which is more valid? I don't know.

Perhaps it's the coercion through economic validity and/or socialization that people like cheerleaders or strippers (or, remotely, women in general) have to go through that makes me so frickin' pissed off about it.

I realize my response to puke & cry's percieved objectification of the cheerleaders in question is way too emotional and judgemental. I'd reword that post if I could, as it comes off as highly insensitive and being on the wrong side of the fence.

So, you're right about that. I don't know these women, I don't know what cards they were dealt and what they have to deal with to support themselves. I shouldn't generalize or assume.

However, I'll stand by the sentiment that this wouldn't even be newsworthy if it wasn't objectified sexual fantasy material for a bunch of bleating sheep and and entirely indicative of male sexual oppression.

Big fucking deal, some professional cheerleaders got caught making out in a bathroom.

Lately it just feels like Western society from my perspective is rapidly back-pedalling into yet another set of dark ages. Apologies for getting bent all out of shape.

There was laughing gas in the birthing room. Every time I inhaled some, I had flashbacks to the Berlin Love Parade and giggled. Didn't work as planned. ;)

In my circle of friends there have been a number of tales about particular individuals having to go in for dental work, and having to explain that they may have a tolerance* to N20.

Pretty much invariably the dentists just smile knowingly and kick up the N20 to O2 ratio a notch or two.

*(Well, at least a psychological tolerance. There's evidence that N20 has an inverse tolerance curve. IE, the more you do, the less you need for the same effects. From subjective experience I can only assume that this inverse tolerance curve is a fleeting, temporary effect.)

It's weird to think that nitrous oxide has been around since 1772, as it seems like such a thoroughly modern recreational vice, what with all the military-esque nature of the paraphanelia and industrial hardware involved.

But, no, having intense but fleeting quasi-religious philosophical epiphanies while under the influence - only to have them slip away, indescribable and ungraspable by language - is nothing new. William James was already there, over 120 years ago.

William James is notable for founding the one of the first laboratories of experimental psychology at Boylston Hall at Harvard University in 1875. He is also the author of several key texts in modern psychology and philosophy including The Principles of Psychology, The Varieties of Religious Experience: A Study in Human Nature and Essays in Radical Empiricism, among many others.

wow, thanks loquacious, you're a wealth of information.

http://www.panthers.com/cheerleaders/roster.jsp

Their names are gone from the roster but they're still in the image map at the top of the page. First row, first from the left and last row fourth from the left. If you click their image a blank 'info' page pops up.

Bad girls...whatcha gonna do?