MetaChat - It's fall, I'm wearing boots...

...Therefore young people's minds turn directly (in a totally clear leap of logic) to hip-hop (I usually say rap music, because I only tend to do about 17% of the things that KRS-ONE tells me to do). Therefore, for your delectation and jacket weather trooping enjoyment (memo to those who know, I am a 40 below trooper for reals, I once walked around all night with a backpack full of Heinnekens, the undranken remained - Frozen, Me - Sniffly but intact). Here are in no good particular order are:

"teenage_fanclub_and_de_la_soul_fallin.mp3"

Remember the 90's (the golden age of rap), no once could do no wrong, convergence, Native Tongues, Everlast was in a movie, a movie called Judgement Night , a stupid movie. However, the soundtrack was rapper and "alternative (that is what it was called then)" musicians. Crazy, BooYaa Tribe and Faith No More (BooYaa tribe are Samoan gangsters woah) Sonic Youth/Cypress Hill, Biohazard/Onyx, Mudhoney/Sir Mix-A-Lot, Missing Link - Dinoasur Jr./Del The Funky Homosapien. Never again my darlings, never again. This is the jam of all jams from that wang-doodle, so good, accessible, dreamy, lovely. Always listen to this song.

"Outkast_Spottieottiedopaliscio.mp3"

This will also not freak out the non-rap music lover, feature the horns, the slow dreamy song, the spoken words (some of those words are the N word, for those who might blanche dubois). ?westlove of the Roots (the nerdiest nerd bear afro brainiac in hip-hop) says this is the rare rap song where black men talk about their feelings. Don't take my word for it, listen to it. It's amazing.

"Run_Dmc_It's_Tricky.mp3"

To clean the palate, back when it went boom bap and dudes with big chunky glasses rocked the mic toughly. (this is from a brief period where the dopest car you could possibly wish to buy once you got your non-recoupable advance was a Volvo ((as in out of all my choices I want a Volvo, awesome, ask Kool Keith)), no shit, LET'S bring that shit BACK!)

posted by Divine_Wino 17 October | 13:59

Mudhoney/Sir Mix-A-Lot,

Featuring Mix giving the band the best shout-out in history..("I wanna throw you in the mud, honey").

posted by jonmc 17 October | 14:16

Jon listen to that outkast song, please.

As a side note, Outkast's Bombs Over Bagdhad is a perfect song to mix cookie dough to, something to do with the BPM plus anticpation of sugar. Me and the kid found this out yesterday. Asses shook, that is all.

posted by Divine_Wino 17 October | 14:19

Yay - music! Thanks for the songs. I thought this was going to be about boots. It isn't, but I'm going to tell you about my boots anyway.

I have cowboy boots on. Or maybe they're called western boots. Or even cowgirl boots. I don't know. They're dark brown leather and dark brown suede, with tan decorative stitching on the toes, the tops, and up the sides. And they have little straps up top so you can pull them up. They have really pointy toes and a 2 inch stacked wood heel. They effin' rule.

And to celebrate our boots:

Nancy Sinatra - These Boots Are Made For Walking

posted by iconomy 17 October | 14:26

If it was going to be about boots I would have said "It's fall, I'm listening to rap music."

Nice boots, mines are timbos from the bargain bin at Century 21 and they are NEW (squeak, blister).

posted by Divine_Wino 17 October | 14:29

Tha song is 7 different flavors of kick-ass, dude. I'm still wearing sneakers, myself.

posted by jonmc 17 October | 14:33

I have cowboy boots on. Or maybe they're called western boots. Or even cowgirl boots. I don't know. They're dark brown leather and dark brown suede, with tan decorative stitching on the toes, the tops, and up the sides. And they have little straps up top so you can pull them up. They have really pointy toes and a 2 inch stacked wood heel. They effin' rule.

I want a sniff!

posted by Hugh Janus 17 October | 14:34

They still have that yummy new car-ish leather smell. Do you like that smell, or do you like the stinky feet smell? Because if it's the latter, give me a few weeks, and you'll be in heaven ;)

posted by iconomy 17 October | 14:38

I would be wearing my sneakers, but they are nasty and covered with spray paint from painting the window guards of my moms' house in New Orleans, before I put them up (they were black she wanted white, thanks mom, I love you), since they are a solid relic of antediluvian NO I want to save them (also the missus FUCKING REFUSED TO ALLOW ME TO WEAR THEM ANYMORE, and she is usually right), since I cannot afford sneakers and boots, it's boots. PS - My moms house only had some floor damage and assorted stink and she was solidly in a neighborhood that GWB doesn't care about, what a semi-miracle.

Hugh - Can you name the rapper with the foot smelling fetish?

posted by Divine_Wino 17 October | 14:41

Slick Rick?

posted by Hugh Janus 17 October | 14:45

Ludacris.

Oh now we have to have a music trivia thread.

posted by iconomy 17 October | 14:47

I've got new timbos as well. I wish they weren't nubuck because I want to mink oil the jebus out of them before I'm thigh deep in snow.

posted by sciurus 17 October | 14:47

I'm wearing slippers.

posted by deborah 17 October | 14:49

Wino, the BooYaa Tribe/Faith No More song off the Judgement Night soundtrack, "Another Body Murdered," is one of my favorites. Full throttle bad-ass.

posted by me3dia 17 October | 14:51

*sniffs own shoes, passes out*

posted by jonmc 17 October | 14:54

I want a sniff!

I am now picturing you as Kevin Cline's character in A Fish Called Wanda, huffing mightily from the boot of Ms. Curtis.

posted by me3dia 17 October | 14:54

Boots? Fall? Here in Little Rock, it's probably eighty degrees. I'm wearing Dansko clogs--a variety of shoe that no one has ever written a rap song about.

posted by box 17 October | 14:55

clogs? you better be female.

posted by jonmc 17 October | 14:56

I'm not female, though I can pass as a chef.

Dang, I spoke too soon:

Now I'ma come out then I'ma start to stare
Mad doggin' wack emcees
I'ma stomp em with girls clogs
And keeping them clogging up
Like arteries, fools be swellin' up
--Basik

posted by box 17 October | 14:59

Mink oil, is that what keeps me from squishing?

Answer:

Busy Bee.*

Now can anyone name the gay rapper (I'm sure several rappers are gay, I'm not talking about out rappers, back in the day people would be like, "who is the gay rapper?" There is one answer that came up most, BUT there are many possible answers.)

Fucking BooYaa tribe is a tangent that has not been dealt with enough. Samoans, so great.

Box, not true, Ghostface has a song called "Steady Cloggin'" on the little known label "Swedish like Whoa". Oh also the real one you just mentioned.

*This is not true, Hugh Janus is the rapper who likes to smell feet.

posted by Divine_Wino 17 October | 15:00

on the little known label "Swedish like Whoa".

Yumpin' Yiminy!

posted by jonmc 17 October | 15:02

Boo-Yaa Tribe also collaborated with Seattle's contribution to thrash metal Metal Church IIRC...

posted by jonmc 17 October | 15:03

Now can anyone name the gay rapper (I'm sure several rappers are gay, I'm not talking about out rappers, back in the day people would be like, "who is the gay rapper?"

Usher. There, I said it.

posted by me3dia 17 October | 15:03

Puffy's pretty gay.

Just kidding, everyone. Pleeeease, I just had to say it! I mean, really! Who's the gay rapper? The one who's dressing the rest of them! C'mon, that's not funny.

Who is the original gangsta rapper?

posted by Hugh Janus 17 October | 15:05

Busy Bee?? Who the hell?

Ludicris has a foot fetish too.

I have no doubt that LL Cool J is gay. Usher too.

posted by iconomy 17 October | 15:06

iconomy, when I was little, I used to show horses and had a couple pairs of cowboy boots: one brown, one a sort of ox blood color, but a bit brighter. It's probably unnatural how much I loved them and their pointed toes, lovely ornate stitching, and slick, slanted riding heels. I secretly felt as though I had special powers when I wore them.

There's a little shop down the street that sells new cowboy boots. I walk past that shop every day on my way to work and the smell of it is as intoxicating as the smell of tack shops were for me 30 years.

It might be time to get a new pair of red cowboy boots.

And box, word, on both the Danskos and the Cuyahoga callout.

posted by Frisbee Girl 17 October | 15:07

Usher is not a rapper, but he is a great fucking dancer (singer not so awesome, imho).

Uncle L is not gay (or not the one I am talking about anyone, who can say who is or isn't gay), Uncle L is a phrenologists wet dream though, right? Know what I mean?

Keep trying. Hugh? Anyone. Who read the Source. I'm the rap bandit, I'm the evil clown that haunts your pissed soaked nightmares. Who read Ego Trip? Ricky Powell "Yo the Mets are so spanish right now they got a dude who's first name is Rodriguez. C'mon give a guess.

posted by Divine_Wino 17 October | 15:08

The OG would be Ice T.

posted by me3dia 17 October | 15:08

LL Cool J just likes to lick his lips. Makes him look like he's coming on to everybody, male and female alike.

So yeah, maybe he is the type of guy...

posted by Hugh Janus 17 October | 15:08

My google fu tells me it's Caushun, D_W.

posted by me3dia 17 October | 15:10

Paging me3dia to this comment.

Fris, red cowboy boots would be the ultimate. Oxblood red....hells yeah. Take a photo of them!

posted by iconomy 17 October | 15:12

Which rap act had a minor college radio hit with the song, "Tha Booty Don't Stop"?

posted by me3dia 17 October | 15:12

The original Ganster Rapper is Philly's own Schooly D* (partially points for Ice T though, he is the original Pimp).

*I can defend this.

Sorry M3edia Caushun is out, I'm talking about a DL brother here.

posted by Divine_Wino 17 October | 15:13

when I was little, I used to show horses

Used to show them what?

posted by jonmc 17 October | 15:14

Divine_Wino: Eminem?

And on preview, you are corrrrrrrrrrrrrrrect!

posted by Hugh Janus 17 October | 15:16

Ghostface knows shoes. He almost-singlehandedly brought back the Wallabee.

Also, as long as this is a music trivia thread: Metal Church also appeared on Sir Mix-a-Lot's, uh, interpretation of 'Iron Man.'

And also also: Ice Cube's got 'Steady Mobbin',' and there's a song on Prince Paul's A Prince Among Thieves called 'Steady Slobbin''. Are there any other Steady Gerund rap songs I'm forgetting?

Also also also: Caushun's out and proud. Erick Sermon? Missy Elliott? Queen Latifah? Eminem? Lots of rumors about those folks? Or are you hoping for someone more old-school? Personally, it amazes me that a group can call themselves The Showboys and release a song called 'Drag Rap,' yet still not get called gay. Funny world.

posted by box 17 October | 15:17

Busy Bee according to Diamond D (in "Stunts, Blunts and Hip Hop") "cold crushed up the hash!"

when I was little, I used to show horses

Used to show them what?

A picture of Kool Moe Dee dressed all in yellow, standing in front of a yellow van that had a caption that a young divine_wino altered with a sharpie to read "Yellow Ass Moe Dee?", that would be my guess.

posted by Divine_Wino 17 October | 15:18

That could've caused a stampede, methinks.

posted by jonmc 17 October | 15:19

Kool Keith, perhaps?

posted by jonmc 17 October | 15:21

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posted by Hugh Janus 17 October | 15:22

Box

You win, Erick Sermon is the correct answer. The Green Eyed Bandit. If you ever come to New York I will present you with your reward: A cd single of ATCQ's amazing song "Hot Sex on a Platter" and an eye patch that Slick Rick rejected as "Too Furry."

Now someone else ask one....

posted by Divine_Wino 17 October | 15:23

Which act's breakthrough album featured a song about drug-induced incontinence?

posted by me3dia 17 October | 15:26

This beat is...
this beat is...
this beat is three feet high.

Why?

posted by Hugh Janus 17 October | 15:29

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I can only assume this outfit was less gay-looking at the time.

My sweetheart goes to the New School, and so I'll probably be visiting NYC in November.

Here's one that might be too easy: Name everyone that appeared on the 'Buddy' remix.

posted by box 17 October | 15:29

when I was little, I used to show horses

Used to show them what?

Show them to hundreds of other people competitively to display the properness, grace and elegance of my horsemanship skills. This was my mother's idea. I hated it, but my horse tried to bite my mother after she used me as a punching bag one day in the stables, so there was that.

And the boots.

posted by Frisbee Girl 17 October | 15:32

I figured, fris. I was just being a goofball. That's what I do.

posted by jonmc 17 October | 15:33

Another slightly-more-difficult posse cut question: who appears on Heavy D's 'Don't Curse'?

posted by box 17 October | 15:34

Buddy:
uhhh, ummm, snaps fingers... De La, Q tip, phife, Jungle Bros, uhhh, Monie Love and shit shit shit, Queen Latifah?

Maybe I forgot someone.

posted by Divine_Wino 17 October | 15:35

You're a trivia machine, D_W. Latifah sings the 'Ooh Child'-inspired segment.

posted by box 17 October | 15:39

Here's music trivia: what was the name of the Heavy Metal All-Star benefit record for world hunger? and the Name of the "group?" and who was in it?

posted by jonmc 17 October | 15:39

Don't curse:

Box, I wrote down my answer, forgot Kool G Rap (sorry don't shoot me) and then just went to get the lyrics, because Heav always said it best:

[Heavy D]
Peace, peace, peace to the preacher
I'm talking about a verse without a curse that's how I reach ya
I can rock a party without a swear or a harsh verb
Backwards, no curse words, Heavy D prefers
So swing, swing to the Soul bequiem rhythm
Before I say goodbye, let me tell ya how I hit 'em
CL, Pete Rock, G Rap, Maxwell
Big Daddy*, Q-Tip and ah me as well
Time to say peace, thank Pete for the beats
This funky beat was made for the street
Notice how clean that we kept every verse
But if worst came to worst (We all say a curse)
(Free Slick Rick...)

Big Daddy Kane. I uh, basically went to college for rap music, but I am nothing compared to my friend who is actually (literally) a professor of Hip Hop at Lehigh Univ.

posted by Divine_Wino 17 October | 15:41

Aw, jmc, I wasn't schoolin' ya. Never hurts to clarify, though. ;)

And, truth is, Jesse (the horse) showed me a hell of a lot more love and affection than the woman who gave birth to me. She deserves some serious props.

posted by Frisbee Girl 17 October | 15:43

ps I love don't curse and checked the liner notes/credits on buddy to make sure it was Latifah the first time I heard it, cause that part is so great.

I also went to Latifahs video store in Jersey City, it's just like a regular video store, except it's owned by the Queen.

Pps, a harsh verb!

posted by Divine_Wino 17 October | 15:44

Nobody's gonna guess at mine? Either of them?

"Tha Booty Don't Stop" is by Ypsilanti All-Stars

I'll give a little more time on the diarrhea rap.

posted by me3dia 17 October | 15:45

Jesse (the horse) showed me a hell of a lot more love and affection than the woman who gave birth to me.

Is Frisbee Girl Catherine The Great? Hmmm...

(I notice nobody's touching my question with a barge pole. I am teh Trivia King, mwahahaha!)

posted by jonmc 17 October | 15:45

Hear'n'Aid, "Stars." Man, I love that band name. But I don't remember everyone. Dio, Halford, Lawless, Dokken, Malmsteen, Campbell, did I say Dio?, Lynch, the Nuge, Motley Crue, Buck Dharma (and were the rest of BOC there?), Neil Schon was inexplicably there, and, and also Dio.

Also the guys from Spinal Tap and maybe Twisted Sister?

posted by Hugh Janus 17 October | 15:49

Ypsilanti All-Stars

Very good name.

posted by Divine_Wino 17 October | 15:50

Hev's so cool that he can call Grand Puba his government name. The man can do no wrong. Rest in peace, Trouble T-Roy.

Nice job, D_W.

(And Jon, all I can remember is that it was called Something-Aid, and Ronnie James Dio was involved. Metal's not my strong suit.)

On preview: Hugh!

posted by box 17 October | 15:50

me3dia, is it Black Sheep? Sounds right up their alley.

posted by Hugh Janus 17 October | 15:51

Janus's is swinging for the bleachers kids, watch out!

posted by Divine_Wino 17 October | 15:51

But is his pitch unhittable?

This beat is...
this beat is...
this beat is three feet high.

Why?

posted by Hugh Janus 17 October | 15:53

Give Hugh a sheroot.

Here's more info (last link includes scary photo of Kevin DuBrow and Vince Neil looking like a slightly more heterosexual Sigfreid & Roy).

I have an mp3. I'll upload it when I get home.

posted by jonmc 17 October | 15:54

Close, Hugh. But not quite.

posted by me3dia 17 October | 15:57

I could hazard a guess, Hugh (and me3dia), but that's all it would be.

One more before I'm off to look for missing books: Besides DXT, which other DJs have recorded with Herbie Hancock?

posted by box 17 October | 15:58

"Who can rip off lightning fast sweep arpeggios, tear through shreddy modal scales, do some sick fretboard tapping, and execute every type of harmonic better, Yngwie Malmsteen or LaToya Jackson?"
(from jonmc's last link)

A question for the ages, if ever there was one.

posted by me3dia 17 October | 16:00

*cough*

Jesse was a mare. And no lesbian equestrienne resides in this skin and even if...eeeeeeewwwwwwwww! Noooooo! Unclean!!

*runs to shower*

posted by Frisbee Girl 17 October | 16:02

Hugh,
Johnny Cash?

(last link includes scary photo of Kevin DuBrow and Vince Neil looking like a slightly more heterosexual Sigfreid & Roy).

Jon, two dudes just all out powerfucking in the street wearing chaps, walrus mustaches and dog collars would look slightly more heterosexual than Sigfreid & Roy, dudes made Liberace look like Steve McQueen.

posted by Divine_Wino 17 October | 16:04

True enough. But that outfit Dubrow has on should be a felony. And Neil looks kind of like Peter O'Toole after 6 weeks trapped at the Whiskey-a-Go-Go during a Faster Pussycat homestand.

posted by jonmc 17 October | 16:06

Not to mention, Neal Schon and Ronnie Dio look vaguely like delinquents from the wrong side of Munchkinland.

posted by jonmc 17 October | 16:07

Box,
I'm out on who recorded with Herbie, but I read an interview with Rob Swift where they played together.

posted by Divine_Wino 17 October | 16:07

...Yngwie Malmsteen or LaToya Jackson?

Reminds me of the God of Rock threads from the (Gibson) Hall of Horns that bled over to the Fender Discussion Page a few years ago. I'll try to locate and post them. They're funny, particularly if you're a gear queer in search of ultimate tone.

Divine_Wino: nope, it's a rap question.

posted by Hugh Janus 17 October | 16:08

All right, since everyone's moving on, 'twas Das EFX who rapped about "Looseys" on their first album, Dead Serious.

posted by me3dia 17 October | 16:10

Rob Swift

You're halfway there, Wino (in my mind, I've started calling you 'D-Dub'). Will someone else come along and finish the job?

posted by box 17 October | 16:13

Divine_Wino: nope, it's a rap question.

I was going for the Johnny Cash song 5 feet high and rising, which I can only assume De La reference somehow in the 3 feet high and rising.

Does it have to do with Biddies in the BK lounge?

Box you can call me D-Dub, but my rap name is Lil' Tallcan.

posted by Divine_Wino 17 October | 16:19

Two references -- you got the latter one.

This beat is...
this beat is...
this beat is [--------]

remains.

And the connection.

posted by Hugh Janus 17 October | 16:21

This beat is technotronic, yo. I can't seem to conjure a connection.

posted by Divine_Wino 17 October | 16:25

This beat is my recital, I think it's very vital. Right back to the top. Hurrah.

posted by Divine_Wino 17 October | 16:29

That's because there is none and I'm in the haze of some sort of retardation. That was a spitball of a trivia question.

For chrissakes, Hugh, for the last time, "stetsa" does not equal "techno," no matter how much you wish it did.

Please forgive my idiocy.

Price Paul was the answer, but I got Technotronic and Stetsasonic mixed up. I'm actually blushing right now at my ritual self-humiliation. Geez!

Please forget I said anything today.

posted by Hugh Janus 17 October | 16:31

Can I redeem myself a little?

What soul song did DJ Premier sample on Gang Starr's "You Know My Steez?"

posted by Hugh Janus 17 October | 16:34

You did nothing wrong, that was awesome.

Drowning in the Sea of Love - Joe Simon, baby pah!!!!!

I am sneaky though, as I carry a list of records that my dj friends hunt for, in case I go into a record store or flea market and hook it up (that used to be so much easier, digging in the crates is now sorting through the scraggly leftovers). As a matter of fact, here is the MP3, cause it's an awesome song.

posted by Divine_Wino 17 October | 16:49

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