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07 October 2005

wtf? First, Bush has no right to say "Trust me." He was elected to represent the American people, not to be dictator for eight years. (...) While Bush was still boozing it up in the early '80s, (...) Both Republicans and Democrats should be alarmed that Bush seems to believe his power to appoint judges is absolute. This is what "advice and consent" means.
Sincerely, Ann Coulter.
This whole Supreme Court controversy has me a might buffaloed. Bush appoints a relative moderate as Justice and the far right is wigging out. What exactly am I supposed to be upset about? Sounds like his base is strating to turn on him. I thought that was a good thing...unless it's a diabolical ruse.
posted by jonmc 07 October | 18:42
You can piece together the train of thought that led to this, but isn't the first hit on this search interesting?
posted by Wolfdog 07 October | 18:57
it's a fakeout, to distract from Rove and DeLay and all the other horrendous shit breaking. they're going to withdraw her after it distracts enough from everything else, and he'll appoint Luttig or Owens.
posted by amberglow 07 October | 19:10
jonmc: it seems to be a bit of a ruse, as the things the right are complaining about are all in the past. She had a conversion experience between her mildly moderate days and now, so it's hard to say if she actually still is a moderate conservative. But he certainly could have nominated a much worse candidate from the left's perspective.

Of course, she is wholly unqualified. With that, I'll agree with Ann Coulter. Where she went to school is not why, though.

She is 100% crony, too, which is exactly why the Senate was given an advise and consent role: to eliminate cronyism. It's a testament to how arrogant Bush is that he assumes his Republican allies will shit on the constitution and vote his way, while also telling his religious conservative base to "trust me, she really is a fire-breathing Bible thumper," even though her past says otherwise.

But it must be cold today in Hell, as Coulter and I are somewhat in agreement.
posted by teece 07 October | 19:16
she's going to have to withdraw--she endowed a Feminist Studies thing (after her born-again thing btw), and Texas' gay leaders and lawyers like her
posted by amberglow 07 October | 19:21
Bush saying "Trust me" is a bad punchline without a joke. And by punchline, I'd like to punch him in the face so the line starts here.
posted by fenriq 07 October | 19:39
I know conservatives have been trained to hate people who went to elite universities, and generally that's a good rule of thumb. But not when it comes to the Supreme Court.

This is actually the best part of that essay, though.

It's the modern Republican party in a nut shell. Ann Coulter (native of Connecticut, BA Cornell U [with honors], JD Michigan Law. Translation == fairly elite East Coaster) asking for a reprieve from elite hating from the heartland "real Americans" for which, somehow, she is supposed to speak.

Here is she telling her readers to put aside their "training" (training Coulter herself has spent a career giving), and instead listen for a bit on why, in this case, elitism is a good thing.

A pretzel isn't more twisted in it's existence.
posted by teece 07 October | 20:07
It's not a ruse, the core conservative leaders are positively flipping out check out redstate.org a sort of dailykos of the right (using the same software, even).

I suppose you could figure that bush is nominating someone he knows core conservatives will hate, making her very palpable to the left, thus leading to a lock-in nomination.

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But that just doesn't make any sense. The Roberts nomination has shown clearly that a qualified candidate will get appointed. Bush could have nominated another Roberts easily.

The motivation on bush's part is pretty clear, in my opinion. He just doesn’t have a fight in him, and he wants to do a loyal friend a favor. Rumor has it that Miers was "pre-approved" by Ried, and the "gang of fourteen" the bipartisan senate group that preserved the filibuster has already said unless something shocking comes up, they will probably vote for her. So Mires can't be filibustered, and probably has at least 7 or 8 democratic votes lined up. It's very unlikely she'll fail, despite being somewhat underqualifed.

Face it, bush failed the republicans, and he failed his base the same way he's failed America. He sold his base up the river to help a friend of his get a good job.

This is a win, folks.

posted by delmoi 07 October | 22:02
they're calling for her to withdraw, and the Senate and House need their base happy for 06...i can't see her staying in.
posted by amberglow 07 October | 22:26
Sooooo...Ann Coulter doesn't like her. That means I should like her? I'm confused. I don't like this reverse psychology stuff.
posted by jrossi4r 07 October | 23:17
she doesn't split the dems at all...we could do a lot worse than her, even tho she's not qualified at all. It's the GOP base that's seriously unhappy with her. That's why i say it's a fake nomination.
posted by amberglow 08 October | 00:37
delmoi, an honest question-- in that redstate.org article you just linked, there appears this paragraph:

I am a Republican because ours is the only Party that remembered the value of human freedom when the Loyal Opposition and so much of the world were ready to consign billions to slavery.

Can somebody tell me what on earth he is talking about here? I have been scratching my head for a full five minutes, and I don't get it.

Further to the redstate site: while making my socialist self queasy, I have to say that it is still interesting in a peering over the wall sort of way, and also that it's well written (credit where credit's due). Thanks for the pointer.
posted by jokeefe 08 October | 02:02
Remember when the GOP complained that the Dems were politicizing the Supreme Court by threatening to reject Roberts on ideological grounds? Hah, now they want Miers out because she isn't conservative enough. Hypocrisy at its finest.
posted by caddis 08 October | 08:09
Hmmm. American folks, have you ever heard of a little idea that goes along the lines of "Avoiding the politicization of the judiciary"? I speak to both sides. Geez. When justices are nominated and the only thing anyone cares about is "which way they'll go" on a particular issue, you have serious problems. You really are treating the Supreme Court like another house of congress - a body of political figures, with political ideology attached, who get the numbers together to vote on various issues. The fact that the supreme court can be viewed this way in itself is a problem. If it really does work this way then you're all very, very deep in shit.

Republicans hoping for a "victory" on abortion as some kind of reward should be ashamed of themselves. That's not what the court is for. Democrats analysing every appointment on which way previous judgements went should be ashamed of themselves. It's not that simple. If it's really going that way, give up on it. Give justices four year terms, get the public to vote for them, and it'll make the whole process so much simpler and to the point.
posted by Jimbob 08 October | 08:16
Unfortunately for Bush, he could nominate his Scottish terrier Barney, and some conservatives would rush to defend him, claiming to be in possession of secret information convincing them that the pooch is a true conservative and listing Barney's many virtues – loyalty, courage, never jumps on the furniture ...

First, Bush has no right to say "Trust me." He was elected to represent the American people, not to be dictator for eight years.


Hell must be very cold today. I actually agree with two things Ann Coulter writes.

I need to lie down now...
posted by sisterhavana 08 October | 10:27
I am a Republican because ours is the only Party that remembered the value of human freedom when the Loyal Opposition and so much of the world were ready to consign billions to slavery.

It sounds like Ayn Rand's philosophy to me (call 'objectivism')... I had a friend who was a randoid. truly idiotic philosophy. Rand hated communism and spent her whole life trying to explain why lasis-fair capitalism was so wonderful. She was a Joke, IMO. But people take her seriously.

The central point was that greed was good, and altruism was bad. Rand felt that the great leaders would float to the top, and the people at the bottom could suffer and die, for all she cared. She also, oddly, felt that any thing that takes away from one person and gives that thing to another brought a person closer to death, and thus it was death. And death was bad, in her mind.

So the 'taxes are hooks in the arms thing' sounds a bit like that.

And in truth, paying taxes is a pain. But I'd rather the pain of taxation then the pain of agreeing with "republicanism" so I never complain about my taxes! :P
posted by delmoi 08 October | 20:58
He was talking about Communism? Huh. News to me that the Democratic Party ("the Loyal Oppposition") were Commies. Whaddya know.

And I don't complain about my taxes either-- being in Canada, I know that I actually get services like health care in return, unlike my friends in New York, who pay pretty much the same tax rate that I do but who get little to nothing in return-- they're still paying hundreds of dollars a month for health insurance. Oy.
posted by jokeefe 08 October | 21:14
I am a Republican because ours is the only Party that remembered the value of human freedom when the Loyal Opposition and so much of the world were ready to consign billions to slavery.

This is a reference to Abraham Lincoln, for what it's worth.
posted by ikkyu2 09 October | 15:55
What jimbob said. Sometimes I wonder whether Americans are simply too close to the whole thing to see how completely and utterly bizarre their country's political/judicial/general public stuff system looks from the outside. Not that we elect judges in Australia, but at least there is some separation of the political and judicial systems (as much as is humanly possible, anyway).

I think you are all in very deep shit and I fear for the future of your country. George W Bush is not the problem in itself, more of a symptom - the political system seems to be inherently flawed in that, once you have elected a President, you give him (or her theoretically, if not in our lifetimes) absolute and total power over your lives. I generally agree with whoever it was that said "we get the politicians we deserve".
posted by dg 09 October | 17:26
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