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11 July 2005

Coke dislikes the real thing Coca Cola India demands "unconditional apology" from photographer who photographed four waterpitchers in front of a "Drink Coke" sign. His mistake was to exhibit his art on a billboard in the city of Chennai in south India where "coke" and "water" are touchy subjects these days.
full disclosure self-link, contains image of billboard etc
Heh, great story, dabitch.

Related bad PR for Coke, Indian farmers spray their fields with Coke, as it contains traces of pesticides.

LOL! Slightly off-topic: I always wondered why Coke and other sodas include phosphoric acid. Anyone know? The über-cynical little voice I keep locked up inside suspects it's something sinister, like maybe the acid acts as a neurotransmitter, making pop a temporary and slightly addictive antidepressant of sorts.

Okay, that's far-fetched maybe, but it'd make a great comic book sub-plot. But I feel better now that I quit traditional "pop."
posted by shane 11 July | 09:56
The whole Coke vs. Water debacle is insane.
posted by loquacious 11 July | 10:01
Great post (and great site - adding to my "must read" list)!. Do you remember Pepsi's translation problem years ago with the "Come Alive With the Pepsi Generation" slogan which translated to Pepsi Brings Your Ancestors Back From the Grave".
posted by Slack-a-gogo 11 July | 10:01
I liked when the Chinese characters Coke chose when they introduced it in China turned out to mean "Bite The Wax Tadpole."
posted by sisterhavana 11 July | 10:28
Wow, I was sure those were both total myths and checked snopes. Tadpole? not quite while that Pepsi ancestors thing is undetermined. Interesting! And thanks Slack-a-gogo.

shane, I would so read a comic book like that. Good sub-plot. ;)

The whole coke-water thing is insane. Truly insane.
posted by dabitch 11 July | 10:37
oooh. Bad move, Coke. I think I might drink a maximum of about one coke a month; it looks like I'm going to have to cut back.
posted by taz 11 July | 10:38
switch to Pepsi--not quite as evil.

(this message brought to you by PepsiCo™--"Not Quite as Evil!"™)
posted by amberglow 11 July | 11:02
Great story, and quite a beautiful billboard, as these things go.

The snopes page on tadpoles, and the link it contained to the Chevy Nova myth, reminded me of Toyota's attempts to market the MR2 in France. MR2 is a homonym for "emmerdeux," or shitty.

I don't know if that's true either, but I like the story.
posted by Hugh Janus 11 July | 12:03
I haven't had more than 10 sodas in about 6 years...plus a negligible amount contained in the vary rare (for me) whiskey/coke...

posted by Schyler523 11 July | 13:03
PepsiCo™--"Not Quite as Evil!

Coke, Pepsi, DrPepper, Jones, Jarritos, whatever. They're all evil. EEEVVUULLL!!!

Seriously, the world would be a marginally better place if everyone would cut back on ingesting all those empty calories.
posted by deadcowdan 11 July | 13:31
What happens if they fuck up/completly drain the groundwater resources from Plachimada? I mean, how soon do you get 'new' groundwater? I'm afraid I slept through that class.....would I be right if I guessed that it's pretty hard to replace groundwater?
posted by dabitch 11 July | 19:20
I think if you replace "pretty hard" with "next to impossible, unless huge massive quantities of rain fall", you wouldn't be far wrong.
posted by dg 11 July | 23:53
i'm gonna have to register and give you two dollars so i can make the most of your site, aren't i?
*sigh*
don't let anyone take my user name until i straighten out my finances, k?
posted by ethylene 12 July | 01:20
ethylene, you could just register and hang out in the access-for-all areas until your finances are straight. ;)
also, I used to spell this out in the FAQ but pricks who like to ruin a good thing would flood the submissions with utter crap in hopes of a freebie, if you brave it and post any relevant ad-news to the front page you get some super-adgrunt juice, like a 'reward'. ;) We still do that, we just don't spell it out in the FAQ anymore, sick of deleting non-ad-related Reuters pressreleases from the submission que. PS it's euros not dollars. ;)
posted by dabitch 12 July | 02:28
it's euros not dollars
another thing i could go on about
but in part it was a movie joke from Better Off Dead ("I want my two dollars" --a violent newspaperboy who wants to be paid)
thanks and i probably may if i have the time but let's get the mods to pull this chunk just to avoid any more freebie seeking sychophants mucking up your works, unless you don't mind
posted by ethylene 12 July | 02:50
aside for shane: it's part nostalgia and mouth feel/taste habits
phosphates may leech calcium but i remember some campaign a while ago saying the potassium in a single coke was enough to deter some problems of the starving populations. what's in it now i don't know, i'd have to look, but the novelty of the idea of men going for a shot of coke after a long day back in the cokey coke days--
posted by ethylene 12 July | 06:33
Thanks, ethylene! I have no idea why I never connected phosphoric acid with phosphates before.

Irony: I bought a bottle of Dasani water from the vending machine at work a while back, thinking I'd refill it from the water cooler repeatedly. But after leaving it set for a weekend it tasted awful. I blame the plastic. Oil is a major component of most plastic and rubber and I'm beginning to doubt the wisdom of eating/drinking/microwaving food in plastic.

The irony: I just noticed Dasani is made by Coke! I bought water from Coke! Aaagh!
posted by shane 12 July | 08:23
you see plastic allergies in cats a lot, where they get this "fat lip".
as allergies are cumulative, observable moreso in small animals, feed them from glass or ceramics.
posted by ethylene 12 July | 08:25
i don't know if what you're tasting is plastic more than room temperature variance in flavor/what mineral is dissolved in it. This is also why the "perfect cup of tea" comes from the coldest water in the pot and why i try to drink it cold from the tap, less soluble whatnot.
a friend of mine loves mineral water because he thinks some of the dissolved salts have an effect on him if only at a homeopathic level.
posted by ethylene 12 July | 08:32
as three consecutive posts is my usual limit, this the last thing i'll put here:
a friend of mine affiliated with other things use to make us all use glass cookware because of the idea trace elements and pollutants were leeching into our food. this had a big heyday with people thinking the aluminum found in the brains of Alzheimer patients and other tangle disease victims was from cookware and aluminum packaging. this has generally been disproved in that case but when you find people who are extremely susceptible to "off gassing" or other "incidental" pollutants, ya wonder.
posted by ethylene 12 July | 08:42
Shane, not only is it made by Coke, it's also just purified British tap water (or was rather, in the UK). (wrote about that last year, Coca cola storm in a tap-water cup, though I try not to pick on Coke all the time. Honest. ;)
Unlike most of the bottled water sold in British petrol stations and supermarkets Dasani hadn't come from alpine glaciers or trickled out of a precious natural spring - it had come out of the local tap. True, the company put it through a purification process and added mineral salts, but the source was still tap water.

But, it gets worse!
Something had gone wrong at the Dasani factory and a bad batch of minerals had contaminated the water production with a potentially carcinogenic bromate. Coke admitted defeat. Immediately they withdrew all 500,000 bottles of Dasani in circulation.
Yikes!
posted by dabitch 12 July | 09:44
Something had gone wrong at the Dasani factory and a bad batch of minerals had contaminated the water production with a potentially carcinogenic bromate.
That's hilarious. Synchronicity: Aaagh, I've been poisoned by Coke water!

Waitaminnit, that's not funny...
posted by shane 12 July | 10:31
I still don't trust aluminum, ethylene! Have you ever seen the grey slime that forms on aluminum when you leave it exposed to moisture? That just can't be good.

And I still think phoshoric acid is gov't mind control ;-)
posted by shane 12 July | 12:02
check this shit out:

Coca-Cola was banned from import in India in 1970 as a result of the corporation's refusal to release the list of its ingredients. In 1993, the ban was lifted in pursuance of India's Liberalization policy. Soon after the relaunch, a study led by the Center for Science and the Environment (CSE), an independent scientific laboratory in New Delhi, found that Coca-Cola (along with competitor Pepsi) contained residues of dangerous pesticides at levels some thirty times the prescribed Indian and European norms. There were instances of substandard bottling practices by the company; the notorious discovery of a dead lizard inside a sealed Coca-Cola bottle was widely publicized. Environmental degradation in the form of depletion of the local ground water table due to the utilization of natural water resources by the company posed a serious threat to many communities. Finally, there were suspicions surrounding the addictive nature of the drink. As the company refused to disclose the exact ingredients, this remains a matter of speculation. In response to these allegedly unethical practices, several non-governmental organizations launched anti-Coca-Cola campaigns in India.

Coca-Cola bottler Panamco has been criticized for its relationship with unions. In Colombia, it has been alleged that the bottling company hired paramilitary mercenaries to assassinate union leaders. In January 2004, the New York City Fact-Finding Delegation on Coca-Cola in Colombia [1] [2] confirmed the workers' allegations. They found:

To date, there have been a total of 179 major human rights violations of Coca-Cola's workers, including nine murders. Family members of union activists have been abducted and tortured. Union members have been fired for attending union meetings. The company has pressured workers to resign their union membership and contractual rights, and fired workers who refused to do so. Most troubling to the delegation were the persistent allegations that paramilitary violence against workers was done with the knowledge of and likely under the direction of company managers. The physical access that paramilitaries have had to Coca-Cola bottling plants is impossible without company knowledge and/or tacit approval....
posted by Wedge 12 July | 16:59
Oh my!

The Dasani entry also has some bad news for shane http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasani
United States
Dasani is local tap water that has been purified by reverse osmosis, with selected minerals added to modify its taste.

You bought tap water, sucka!

I never did understand the plan to make Dasani actual (real) Mineral water in Germany and France, but let it be tap water everywhere else. (even the wikipedia mentions it). What a waste of a brand-name if you're going to put two very different products in it, am I right?
posted by dabitch 13 July | 02:09
You bought tap water, sucka!

Awww *sniff* quit makin' funna me! I just wanted the bottle! :-)

In general: Wow. Coca Cola REALLY sucks.
posted by shane 13 July | 09:23
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