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30 June 2005

Ad-free web Gawker without the ads, BoingBoing Lite, Page6 the Post... I see a pattern here, do you know of any more?
sorry
i was standing in the gutter, looking at the stars
posted by ethylene 30 June | 08:00
*moahahahaha*! Oh man, whomever made those diagrams must have giggled all the way.
posted by dabitch 30 June | 08:12
you laugh, you learn
you forget the joke and remember the punchline

i salute the solar sailor
with both nipples
posted by ethylene 30 June | 08:18
How did I miss that yesterday? I know there are occasional accidents with graphics, but I also think there are a lot of designers that just laugh their asses off as they try to sneak things into their design.

Sorry, dabitch, I think your post is getting derailed by the erotic solar system.
posted by Slack-a-gogo 30 June | 08:19
I don't bother with Slashdot except for AlterSlash. Slashdot must be the most hideous of the uber-popular websites.

Anyway dabs, if we had an ad-free web your famous site would have to go too - surely you don't want that?
posted by dodgygeezer 30 June | 08:24
note how the penis always has to be the star all front and center

no no no! it doesn't have to go down the road less traveled!

ad girl goes ad free
soak up on the irony

i wonder how much people are use to skipping commercials and ads now as they become aware of their own changing levels of distractibility.
posted by ethylene 30 June | 08:25
An honorable derail. Ther are a lot of designers who are trying to sneak things into their designs. I'm sure. Examples: #1 barebacking , #2 BJ:ing , #3 kamasutra.
posted by dabitch 30 June | 08:27
and i have wondered why slash dot is so unattractive
posted by ethylene 30 June | 08:28
especially in light of the best logo ever
posted by ethylene 30 June | 08:30
But dodgygeezer - the ads on my website aren't flashing banners et al. Unlike the likes of gawker and any-other-blog-worth mentioning advertising is not and never will be the revenue we rely on to support the site. We used to pressrelease the hell out of that fact but nobody saw the funny in it. :/
.....so finally we caved and show google text ads to the people who don't log in. This is more to be an incentive to members to log in, they get rewarded with an adfree view.
posted by dabitch 30 June | 08:32
well that is just wrong
(%)

could it have been the advertising of your lack of advertising?
now an ad campaign of nostalgia for the ad free advertising--
posted by ethylene 30 June | 08:37
how about an open ad parody/anti-advertising contest?
they could win ad placement
posted by ethylene 30 June | 08:49
Thanks, dabitch, for those nice logos. Mr. taz and I are laughing so hard we have tears streaming.
posted by taz 30 June | 08:54
Cool - who's putting together these ad-free sites? Is it the same people who are doing the regular ones?

I think I would actually read the Boing Boing one...I can't stand the regular BB; way too busy.

ethylene, love that idea.
posted by iconomy 30 June | 09:02
Nope, it's other people.
I thought BB lite was fairly well known? I read alterslash, it distills slashdot just the way I like it, and I fancied BB lite for a while but then I went off BB completly. I admit it. I hate ad-banners and I get a rash seeing google text ads. I adblock everything.. Anyone know any good trick for getting rid of Google text ads? I unsub from RSS feeds that have ads in them. But then I both subscribe to and host mailinglists that only talk about ads. Sad aren't I? It's like Dr. Jerk and Mrs Hide!
posted by dabitch 30 June | 09:12
i admit i've had the idea of making a kind of site of mirror sites with some form of CSS so they'd be in essence a magazine
style and content? no!

there i said it. it's dated.
anyone tries it, someone call me.
posted by ethylene 30 June | 09:21
But dodgygeezer - the ads on my website aren't flashing banners et al.
I know, I was just joking.

Actually since you're here maybe you can help - I'd kill to find an online copy of the Virgin Megastores ad, it's a kind of flip flop flyin type thing featuring some pixelised stereotypical musicians - seen it anywhere?
posted by dodgygeezer 30 June | 09:22
once everyone gets a hold of the whole "clutter doesn't help" idea, the better.

adopt space
and pause

and let's ban/block certain colors
burning red helps no one as a background
unless that's the idea

only i say when my eyes bleed
posted by ethylene 30 June | 09:32
I know, I was just joking.

*pinches dodgy* Darnit. You had me.

Virgin you say? Seen some flipflopflyin'-like anims here as well, for a tabloid paper client, it might actually be him. I'll ask around. :)
posted by dabitch 30 June | 09:47
What do the BB and the Gawker people have to say about the lite sites? Sorry if this is old hat to everyone else - I don't read either of those sites and so don't know about all this stuff.
posted by iconomy 30 June | 09:50
these are wonderful--thanks! (they'll be getting cease-and-desist letters any minute tho)
posted by amberglow 30 June | 10:01
Dunno what Gawker thinks about their twin, but BoingBoing ha this to say: Ad-stripped versions of Page Six and Gawker -- this'll last, oh, five minutes. Which I think is funny because BoingBoing Lite has been around for what.. a year or so now? But I dunno if they have a deali-o. The CC licence makes the BoingBoing Lite version OK as far as I can tell.
I wonder if Gawker can protest, their disclaimer is sparsly worded and links off to a PDF file for "more information on the legality of thumbnail usage of photographs, please download the 9th Circuit Court's ruling." which is the Leslie Kelly v. Arriba Soft Corp. ruling and about search engines thumbnails, where by the way, Kelly won - not Arriba. Get your full feed of that here (or here). So, in summary one can't use thumbnails of other peoples photographs even if one is Gawker, without permission. So.. people using Gawkers text and logotypes and images over at another site sems...Wel it does seem iffy but it mighyt not be. Since Gawker uses a creative commons licence (with a dead link) I can't tell which one they are using and if this would be ok.
posted by dabitch 30 June | 10:08
that's it, we have a question bucket called old hat. people can draw them out like rabbits
it's magic

now i have to go look for the appropriate old silk stovepipe or i might have to make one.
posted by ethylene 30 June | 10:10
it seems they should know better than to protest
and be watching them
posted by ethylene 30 June | 10:13
ah! The licence link works now (must have been a gremlin' earlier). So, according to Gawkers CC licence, it's A-OK to do this.
Right? That is what the Non Commercial "you are free to" means, right? As long as AD-free gawker doesn't make their project commercial this'll work.
posted by dabitch 30 June | 10:48
liecnece??? oh fer cryin out loud, can someone build a spellcheck into my head?
posted by dabitch 30 June | 10:49
But the thing they can't shut down is greasemonkey scripts. There's an adstripper for BoingBoing which means it doesn't matter if BBLite gets axed.

I wonder how the cartels like newspaper sites and gawker etc etc factor in the increasing enduser modification of content. It's going to be a very strange area of law and modification of advertizing revenue streams as it becomes more prevalent.

And the greasemonkey scripters take requests too!
posted by peacay 30 June | 11:01
I think it's an excellent idea. Is it just me or are web ads getting more and more obnoxious? Yeah, there are popup blockers (although some ads do get around those) but those ads that take over your screen and you can't do anything without clicking them are the worst. (the richmedia ads that move over the content and scroll down if you scroll down...) HATE THEM.
posted by sisterhavana 30 June | 11:02
Brand suicide agrees with you, ads are getting more and more obnoxius. And not just on the web. Ad creep is a creepy thing.
posted by dabitch 30 June | 11:33
I reckon the next step is getting ads into the content itself - it'll be like how you have product placement in movies. Websites paid to drop in favourable mentions for products in passing, that sort of thing - it works well for Apple and they don't even have to pay for it.
posted by dodgygeezer 30 June | 11:47
i wish there was a way to strip tv active advertising
novelty is a delicate scent


but they do that on tv, dodge, if you see how they work commercials into the context of the show.
web advertisers should simply resign themselves to working by the dictates of the medium instead of trying the tactics of other media.
flashy and pushy only works on the new and the few.
posted by ethylene 30 June | 11:54
I love this. Kill all the ads or only some.
posted by arse_hat 30 June | 12:34
does it kill google textads, or blogads? those mf'ers really annoy me.
posted by dabitch 30 June | 13:43
It can if you want it to.
posted by arse_hat 30 June | 14:05
Here is the justification for BBLite. And Pith Helmet is great for OS X/Safari, though it doesn't kill BlogAds or Google text ads (I think).

*misses http://www.metafilter.com/lofi.mefi*
posted by Cryptical Envelopment 30 June | 16:11
Mr. taz and I are laughing so hard we have tears streaming.

I refuse to install realplayer, I ain't seeing this tears stream you're talking about, taz
posted by matteo 30 June | 18:41
/. question: it is being ugly on purpose?
like obstinately ugly
some kind of safe nostalgia trip
because it's afraid to pick something else?
or do they really not know/care?
i almost never go there unless someone points it out
posted by ethylene 30 June | 19:16
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