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thanks for that Gin and Tacos post, BP, it is useful and something to think on. I hope people don't dismiss it as being white-privileged apologia or dismissive of the problem. It IS a problem, a huge problem, and one I grew up with as a kid in a very backwards region of the country. It takes having these sorts of open, uncomfortable admissions in order to help further understanding of where so much of the ongoing, pervasive discrimination that continues to this day is coming from.
yeah Orange Swan I didn't quite listen with full attention when I saw it but I think she kinda sitestepped the question a bit she should have dismantled that idea too