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28 October 2011

musing about web publishing I've been feeling inspired looking at things online and kinda wondering about what I can do (lots below)…[More:]

I've looked at some science blogs lately and it's kinda amazing, there's a highly networked highly technical community out there putting out great content on an ongoing basis on independent sites, kinda like I used to see in blogs circa 2002-2003

Meanwhile I've also been looking at the tech blogging community a bit again (I avoid the chatter but I can't lie being grounded in web tech/business is a major part of my identity) and even there, there's just genuine expertise which seems sexy to me. Here's a guy/woman who's taken time out of their day to investigate something and write it up and it's great to read, offers an opportunity for interaction about ideas, adds to their professional persona, etc.

Now I'm not expert at anything technical (I never quite figured out what a cosine is) so that's not the kinda thing I'm thinking about for me.

I've picked up some interests over the last few years, fashion (or consumption of fashion?) and hip hop... I've kinda been thinking about doing something in these fields but (besides never getting around to it properly) I also worry that I'll spend a lot of time on something, lose interest and then it's a waste. Then part of me says--if it's successful you'll keep at it, or put it in maintainance mode, even if you've lost interest in the topic because it's a good project to keep going. Plus I think interests are kinda stable; if you've been interested in something for 2–4 years chances are you're going to not be totally uninterested 2 years down the line.. you just change how invested you are in a space but not the curiosity about it

The thing is though. When you look at what 'significant' people in hip hop media actually are up to. They basically are a 'firehose' of posting new fresh songs, content etc and everyone spams their inbox, their twitter feed, hoping to get promoted. Then they're like OMG you didn't post my song! So there's extra drama there even after the communication saturation and necessity of continuous work (plus if you make something with community aspects there's going to be sizeable amount of moderation, drama etc. involved). I like the idea of some sites like rapgenius.com that are more collections of info rather than just a way to get new content.

As for fashion... here's the deal. I started following a lot of these brands on twitter, facebook, email lists etc and at first I was kinda interested by how hip to the web their marketing is. They just pump out lots of content all the time--videos, photos, articles, links etc that you can repost, reshare etc. Which is interesting until you realize there's a lot of it so you're only going to reshare a tiny bit in your own online social streams.

But I picked up this magazine ok. Harper's Bazaar (Indian edition just to be fair.) And it is basically an advertising rag. What's happened is that the brands have pumped it with content, images, ideas, etc and they've just pasted it all together. Here's where you can by X which is trending now! So (like I was just saying about the content they pump out online) it looks like fashion brands are used to putting out a lot of content that even professinal journalists can just put together. Here's a woman in seriously done metallic makeup and all the tips about how to do it aren't generic, they're all Estee Lauder products. This whole makeup spread is an Estee Lauder ad.

So I'm like hmm and went out to see if I can find something different, something more detached. And I found some sources that are basically retailer or industry focused--Woman's Wear Daily, Business of Fashion, etc and I've been following them a couple weeks and it seems like the kinda thing I'm more interested in keeping an eye on. The business and sociology and serious trend writing (the NYT fashion section does some of this) instead of the collages of misc products.

The thing is though, then I wonder what can I do? Again the 'become a firehose' problem rares its ugly head; if I start a fashion products blog that's basically all I'd be doing. Sifting through these feeds and content, finding stuff that moves me, posting it. And like 5x a day at least if I want to be any successful.

In a way this just makes sense in any field. You want to be a source of something, so you are a continuous sources of it. "It" is often just something new on the rader. So you're an aggregator. But is there a different way?
You skipped around the central tenet: blogging is for amateurs and web publishing is for professionals. Despite claims, media columnists are not blogging; they get paid.

Whichever route you take, you will discover at least three phases: The article you just posted. The next couple articles to post that need a final polish. A collection of future articles in outline or rough draft. These phases hold even if the lifespan from idea to posting is only a few hours. Most likely, you will find that keeping a pool of potential topics is more difficult than writing them up and polishing them off.
posted by Ardiril 28 October | 15:55
hey Ardiril. Yeah I do hope that whatever I do becomes at least somewhat of a return on investment... it doesn't have to be financially renumerative but it has to become influential or at least just worthwhile to its readers

You're saying that--contrary to my complaint that there's always a lot of new things out there to just transcribe--I'll find myself actually struggling for new stuff to write about? Why's that?

I also think, now that we're talking about professional writing, I won't just be getting content pushed to me but also if things catch on be the person actually chasing people down trying to score interviews, exclusive coverage etc.... there's a sort of incestuous relationship between industry and media in that they need access to each other
posted by Firas 28 October | 20:48
Before you start transcribing, search to see how many others are already doing that. You won't just be struggling to find new stuff, but struggling to find new things to say about the stuff that others are also doing. Consider also, what will you do on a slow day? Your regular visitors will still want new content.

It's kind of like those gallery style porn sites that only lead to other gallery style porn sites. Eventually, someone has to put up some actual content or visitors will go elsewhere.
posted by Ardiril 28 October | 21:40
yeah good point. Being a mindless aggregator is a good way to get google juice and attention fast but in the end you want to wake up thinking you've made something you actually like rather than a glorified linkfarm... so editorial discretion and/or specialization can be good things

Specialization is also why I'm interested in approaching this as a new thing in the first place, I mean I could just go on my regular blog/twitter etc and intermix everything but I want to create a new channel that's topic focused

I have a domain I made for my anticipatory hip hop media empire a while ago, niceasthis.com, I think I can just divert it for a fashion site. Nice As This. I was just talking to Hugh_Janus and he brought up a good point, that if it's a generic brand name I can even spin off other topics on it as a lifestyle site later instead of if it's something like Firas On Fashion or Cool Accessories News which is an inflexible brand
posted by Firas 28 October | 23:44
I just contradicted myself by saying I want to specialize and genericize at the same time didn't I. *walks around pondering*
posted by Firas 28 October | 23:50
The good news about aggregate content is it is easy. The article's title as the link text is often all you need, perhaps a few additional words if something is particularly interesting, funny, etc. Plus, link collections make for a great sidebar and you can be as general as you want. This also introduces some variety in your site.

Conversely, new content is not that daunting. You really only need about 200 - 300 words/day, 5 days a week to maintain regular readers. I needed years to learn that weekends are a bust. Also, at 200 words/day, you can keep a specialized focus without eating up every good idea you have. That length too, while satisfying, leaves your readers wanting more. The hard and fast rule here is to post each day's article at the same time, say 7:30 am or noon. People like knowing that they will find your new article first thing in the morning to enjoy with their coffee, or right after returning from lunch. Scripts for automated posting are fairly common now.

All that is left is a section for readers' comments. Set tight rules on how you will moderate, and stick to them. Your best first rule is: "No comments on my moderation policy. Live with it." I like the LiveJournal format where visitors must click through for comments. Hidden but available seems to satisfy everyone.
posted by Ardiril 29 October | 03:19
Another moderation option is a strict 'hands-off' policy. Whatever they want to post, stays, but you don't want to hear any griping about it. This works best when the comments section is separate. "Trolls are still site traffic."
posted by Ardiril 29 October | 03:39
Okay I feel inspired! I'm gonna start today yay
posted by Firas 29 October | 11:00
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