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03 August 2011

Never try to embarass a racist; it wastes your time and doesn't annoy the racist Long story short: Customer just came in here ostensibly looking for school uniforms, but making such strange remarks and questions about our company that I decided to stick with her as the rep handled her.[More:] She began to talk about one of the school's coaches (who is white and married to a black woman) and say that he is pushing students to inter racially date. She made it clear by what she said that she considers this a Bad Thing, and not because of general principles about faculty getting into student's dating lives (which might be a legit concern), but because she doesn't believe people of different races should date.

I really doubt that such a thing is happening (because I think the man is smart enough to stay out of his student's dating practices), and in addition to thinking that she was very strange to be spouting rumors to people she just met who have a contract with the school she's talking about, thought that she was being racist on a non-subtle level that you usually don't see outside of the movies.

I usually don't play head games with customers, but I couldn't resist. "Well, MY wife is black," I interjected (actually, she's white, as am I). I was hoping to see her at least get caught at a loss for words, but other than a clearly half-hearted "well, that's okay for you..." she kept right on her yakkity-smakity. I got called away, rep finished the order, and later told me that the customer asked her "was he kidding?" in a concerned manner. My rep told her I was, and said that if she had been thinking faster she would have left her hanging.

The End.

FEEL FREE TO SHOUT YOUR RESPONSES.
The funniest thing for me is seeing who gets their feathers ruffled over stuff, and who stumbles forward oblivious and happy.
posted by Ardiril 03 August | 18:11
I deal with racists all the time. Mostly, it doesn't even occur to them they are racists, some are proud of it. White people who only deal with white people for the most part get to live in a world where they don't believe there is racism. I had the opportunity to correct one of these people to her complete and oblivious shock. This is not a horrible person, it is a person I actually like, but she is completely clueless about racism and apparently had been telling a black person they would not experience any racism around here, which is just plain crazy talk, it's motherfucking chock full of racism.
I could talk about racists all day. RACISTS RACISTS RACISTS. THEY'RE EVERYWHERE.
I just deleted a whole bunch of text about racist and racism. The stories are endless and don't really bear repeating.
posted by ethylene 03 August | 19:45
I would have said, "Yeah he's kidding. She's really Cambodian." Or, "She's Pakistani." Pick a non-traditionally Caucasian region that sounds really exotic, but not too outlandish like Madagascar or Botswana.
posted by TrishaLynn 03 August | 21:56
Now see, in an instance like that, I would think too fast, and say "No, he's really gay" just for the joke and without thinking through the follow-up.
posted by Ardiril 03 August | 22:07
I must admit to a complete lack of subtlety. When I hear things like this I either ask, "Do you realize how racist this sounds?" or explain how concerned I am to hear x or y mentioned because of course it is a classic racist attitude.

Hey, if they are tone deaf enough to express their racism, I'm happy to hit 'em with a verbal two by four.
posted by bearwife 04 August | 00:48
There was a good comment on MeFi a few months back about how most racists don't think they're racists because racists are awful hill people like from Deliverance (because of the stereotypes we've built up of racists and they could never be like that, no way!). I think it was in a thread about "I'm no racist, but..."

Yes. Yes, you are. Racist.
posted by Eideteker 04 August | 06:18
One of the more annoying thing about racists is that they often believe that everyone else thinks the same way that they do but the rest of us are too "PC" to admit it. So they're not racist assholes, they're just the only one's who have the balls to tell the truth that the rest of us secretly agree with.
posted by octothorpe 04 August | 07:13
ethylene has it, I think. At least as far as my area. We used to live in a very mixed neighborhood. I used to joke that when I went out in the morning the street looked like a Saturday morning cartoon: kids of every race and ability, hanging out on the curb or kicking around on their bikes. I am white, married to a white guy. I liked the racial makeup of our neighborhood and the surrounding city.

Then my dad got sick and we moved to my parents' town, 25 miles away. Whitey McTightyville. It actually makes me uncomfortable to be around all these white folks sometimes. You go somewhere like the grocery store or a restaurant and there are no brown, no black, no Asian faces, except in the the gardeners and the cooks.

I'm sure each of the church-going families in this pious little town listens to their preacher talk about the poor people in (insert third world country) and makes out a check for the church's mission there. And then tells their neighbors about it when they meet for lunch at the cafeteria, while a middle-age black man buses the table and they never acknowledge his existence.

Racist and clueless.
posted by toastedbeagle 04 August | 08:16
Race "realists" are the ones that get under my skin. "oh, I've got SCIENCE" and "This $minority.person.who.agrees.with.me proves I'm not racist, just a realist" "You people are the ones in denial".

Such crap.

In the 20/20 chair, maybe focusing on the interfering in students' lives and starting rumors for its own sake is the behavior to call out.

Or just be like my kids and keep saying "Why"? You get down some twisted paths that way.

posted by lysdexic 04 August | 08:41
phrases I have heard in proximity:
"I'm not racist"
"our chocolate president"
"those demanding new yorkers" referring to people w/ jewish surnames
"the handicapped plates get the best spots"
and lots of comments about illegals.

We live in comparative luxury here in the US, but for some people, it's not enough. I hear a lot of it as "I'm white, fully abled, and basically privileged, and I've got mine. Everybody else can be screwed and I don't much care."
posted by theora55 04 August | 11:29
great stuff, everybody. Ardiril, I almost wish this woman was oblivious and happy, but I can only vouch for the first one of those - she was not only uptight about the coach, but everything about the school, including her assumption that my company must have applied some grease to get the contract. Makes you wonder why she pays to send her kids there. We all had a pretty good laugh about this in the office, ourselves.
posted by Rand0mkeystrike 04 August | 11:30
RACISM RACISM RACISM. IT'S OUT THERE.
I feel like doing a Mr. Natural kind of cartoon to go with that. Some keep on trucking sticker that just says RACISM.
posted by ethylene 04 August | 20:07
I'm completely in favor of brand new Mr. Natural cartoons. Go for it - it's time.
posted by Miko 04 August | 22:06
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