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19 August 2010

Cat concerns... Not actually sure whether this is venting or advice-seeking, kids. So, the situation is that it's somewhere between 101-105F here; my neighbors are away, and I'm feeding their cats/watering their plants. I'm feeling guilty that I'm not bringing the cats into my house... but... [More:]

The problem is that we have a dog. She's not unfriendly to cats and would probably prefer to make friends, but one cat is very aggressive towards her (I always put myself between him and dog when we happen to pass by him, so it's to that degree), and the other one seems less hostile, but I have seen the two of them gang up to attack other cats, and one dog (that a friend of my neighbor's brought over, that wasn't attacking them). The animals are pretty much okay with having worked out their territories, but I never let the cats into the house. (I'm also allergic, but not to an extreme degree.)

Also, if my dog is attacked, she will fight back hard, so it's not just her I'm worried about.

The cats are outdoor cats, though they used to be indoor/outdoor cats 'til the neighbors had a baby. They don't use a litterbox. At this point, the only way I could bring them in is to lock them in the bathroom, and I think they would go completely bonkers at that. I'm not going to lock the dog away in the bedroom or something, and let the cats have the rest of the house, because this would be really, really distressing for her.

Also, I don't know how much cooler it would be to be closed in the bathroom. We have only a room AC in the living room, and it makes the rest of the house just barely tolerable in this kind of heat.

The neighbor called to ask us to water the plants (which they hadn't explicitly requested, though I had already done it anyway), and didn't say anything about unlocking the cat door so the cats could go inside the flat, though she did worry that the cats might be "boiling." My husband spoke to her, not me; I would have asked her if she wanted me to do that. Though, you know, obviously she doesn't.

I've opened up a small gardening shed space in the courtyard for them (I think it was maybe once the laundry area for this old house); it has super-thick walls, is completely shady and the coolest place outside that I can find. I hung up wet towels in there, put a big bowl of fresh water (I also have water in other places for them), and also put a frozen water bottle in there. One cat seems to have taken up the invitation, and he seems fine — not panting or lethargic. I haven't seen the other cat since this morning, but this is not unusual. They go wherever they want to in the neighborhood.

Should I feel guilty? Should I feel kinda angry that the neighbor doesn't want her own cats in her flat? If I were her, I would have asked that the cat door be unlocked for them, and the AC turned on for a few hours in the afternoon, and that doors to whatever rooms are off-limits be closed.
Perhaps because her family situation changed and she chucked her animals out into the elements, she just expects that they will make do. A person who has done that, and then made no mention of accommodating her 'boiling' cats doesn't want them into her house with its baby blankies which the cats will make a bed of. Do not feel guilty. Talking to her yourself would have made no difference. You have done fine by these animals, and your own as well.
posted by toastedbeagle 19 August | 08:00
Cats are descended from desert animals (unless they're a special breed like Himalayan). They'll be fine since you're providing access to fresh water and a shady spot in which to lay.

Heatstroke in cats. Their normal body temperature is 100-102F.

Another dog, a raccoon (do they have those in Greece) or a car is a MUCH bigger danger to these cats.
posted by desjardins 19 August | 08:11
Yeah, the cats will be ok in the heat as long as they have a shady spot and enough water. You're very sweet to worry about them, but you're right that you can't bring them into your house with the dog (also, cats really aren't that awesome at adapting and if they don't use litterboxes, you're looking at a potential house full of bioterrorism) and if your neighbor doesn't want them in her house... well, they are her cats.

I try not to question anybody else's parenting decisions, which goes for furry friend parenting as well. Just do your best to keep the cats comfy outside and they'll be fine.
posted by grapefruitmoon 19 August | 08:16
The cats will be fine. Like gfm said, as long as they have water and a shady spot, they're golden. (assuming they are not otherwise infirm, I guess.)
posted by gaspode 19 August | 08:39
Thanks, guys. I've just checked (again) on the one who's hanging out, and he seems fine, as you say. He doesn't feel hot when I stroke him, his eyes are focused, and he rilly likes the attention. :) He's okay. Now, I'd feel a little better if the other one would put in an appearance, but he's probably found a good spot somewhere to sleep through the worst part of the day.
posted by taz 19 August | 08:58
Oh, and no raccoons in Greece!
posted by taz 19 August | 09:01
Hi taz, nice to see you 'round these parts! :)

I'm with everyone else; as long as they have shade and water they should be fine. I picture them pretending to be lions / cheetahs lounging in the African savannah in my head as I type this.

It sucks that it's so hot there, but IMO cats, more than any other creature on this planet, seem to be the kings and queens of getting comfortable no matter what the conditions. We had a random collection of semiferal barn cats (our damn neighbour patently refused to alter his cat population no matter how much we complained; we resorted to trapping and fixing as many feral toms as we could afford to) in Ohio could go from -10°F to +100°F (with insane humidity) every year with no ill effects, save a ton of shedding in March. Well that plus in wintertime you'd usually find them snuggled up next to the horses at night :)
posted by lonefrontranger 19 August | 11:28
Yeah, my kitty Livia was a once-feral cat who adopted me. I tried forcing her to be an indoor cat when I moved out of my apartment (around where she was born in the wild and thus her natural stomping grounds) but when I adopted my second kitty Augustus she wouldn't have any of his shenanigans so I let her become indoor/outdoor again.

And you know what? She LOVES the hot and humid days that are summer in Houston. 95-100 degrees is like a perfect warm day in paradise for a cat. Nothing makes her happier than to loll about on the patio and hunt in the back yard for various rodents (or the occasional infant hawk) to bring as presents rewards for me letting her be outside.

Of course she always has fresh water, and if it gets too hot, she lets me know. She'll come inside and cool her tummy on the kitchen tiles and take a little snooze, then back out into the swelter. Now, winter? She hates it. I know when the first truly cold weather is coming the first day she jumps up on my lap and makes her body as small as possible. She's more reliable than any meteorologist in that regard.

Crazy cat.
posted by WolfDaddy 19 August | 11:30
:)

Well, number two cat is back, and he's fine too, and it's evening now, and a bit cooler, so all is well in catland — until tomorrow, when we all get to do it all over again!

Importantly, though, this allows me to get back to my regularly scheduled programming of whining about how hot I am. waaaah.
posted by taz 19 August | 11:59
Oh, and the "lions / cheetahs lounging in the African savannah" imagery is perfect, and what I will use tomorrow to keep from being anxious.
posted by taz 19 August | 12:02
Hi Taz. Whilst we don't get weather as hot as Greece, my cats will happily lie on hot concrete in full sunshine for hours, and then find a bit of shade.
posted by Senyar 19 August | 17:12
Cats is weird and crazy. Mine will lounge between the curtains (closed for the heat) and window in what must be hellish temperatures. As everyone else said - you are doing exactly right for the cats.
posted by deborah 19 August | 17:37
Also, in compliance with Metafilter rules, here's a photo of one of the little buggers that I took this morning:

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This is the one who seems not entirely uninterested in making friends with Sky. His more fighty pal has already taken off for parts unknown this a.m.

And here's Sky, taken a couple of days ago:

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posted by taz 20 August | 03:32
aaaaaaand, now tough guy is back, and hanging out in the shed, too. New water, new ice pack, newly wetted towels. Yay. :)
posted by taz 20 August | 05:50
KITTY! PUPPY! CUTE!
posted by grapefruitmoon 20 August | 08:37
It has been hellishly hot in my house this summer, and you would think my cat would spend all his time down in the basement, where it's much cooler, but no, he stays upstairs for the most part. His only concession to the weather is to spend more time lying on bare floor instead of the couch.
posted by JanetLand 20 August | 08:59
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