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10 June 2009

This is a post about cat declawing. But I am not trying to start a fight, honest.[More:]I am firmly in the non-declawing camp but I do not go proselytizing this unless someone asks for my advice. I found out that my sister-in-law's fiancé demanded that she get her cat declawed because it had scratched his new couch. She acquiesced. The cat is about a year old. They didn't try any behavioral techniques (I know this because they JUST got the couch, and they JUST moved in together, so there wasn't time to try anything).

I didn't like him for other reasons, but now I kind of despise him. They're getting married in September so I'm going to have to deal with this guy. I will get over it, but I just wanted to rant a bit.

She brought her (young) kids to live with this guy, and he wouldn't let them take their old furniture or most of their toys. Seriously, they were only allowed one box of toys each, because more would unduly clutter up the apartment. The rest is to be given away or put in storage. Otherwise, he treats them well, but wtf? Control freak anyone?

The kids' father is kind of a nutjob too, so her track record at picking out guys is not good. Anyway, ARRGGGHH.
Ack. What a mess. One seems way too old to declaw, too. Hopefully their vet will refuse it.
There are ways to train cats that young not to scratch, though. double sided tape on the corners of the couch where he scratches, keep-away sprays, etc.
posted by kellydamnit 10 June | 19:48
It's already done, so they found a vet to do it.

I have two cats, neither declawed, and have had no problems save some scratching on the doorjambs.
posted by desjardins 10 June | 19:52
my cat's a bad scratcher, but we got her as an adult so it was a bit too late for any substantial training. we've only managed to get her to stop clawing when we're in the room. eh, a couple ancient damaged couches are a small price to pay for her. she's a great cat.
posted by kellydamnit 10 June | 20:09
I know they make those little rubber things you can put over cats claws- how common are those nowadays among cat owners?
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 10 June | 20:10
TPS - never seen them in use.
posted by desjardins 10 June | 20:11
Er, my only horse in this race is that my cat was declawed (front only) very young, before I got her. She lived to be nice and fat and old and I've been thinking about getting a new kitty but I don't want to declaw...so. I dunno. The Bf used to clip his cat's nails so maybe he'll do that.


I really want a kitty. I had cat from age 7 to 19. I'm 25 now and I miss having a fuzzball that wakes me up in the morning and purrs.

Then again I also want fish, so WTF is that?
posted by The Whelk 10 June | 20:22
They went to a vet, who did this, so they don't realize it's awful. But it's awful.

The Whelk, somebody on Ask.Me really needs a new home for a cat. No matter where you get a cat, there are many kitties needing homes.
posted by theora55 10 June | 21:05
It's a shared responsibility thing, plus we're going away for a lot this summer, so, not right now, but it's on our minds.
posted by The Whelk 10 June | 21:08
My cat knows to just scratch the scratching post. I don't know how he knows that, though.
posted by amro 10 June | 22:15
scratching posts simulate trees, which is a wild cat's preferred place to scratch. it's instinctive.
posted by desjardins 10 June | 23:00
You can get their claws trimmed regularly or the rubber protectors. No need to be so drastic about it.
posted by gomichild 10 June | 23:11
Sad story, desjardins. The bit about the kids having to winnow down their toys to one box made it sound like they were moving to an orphanage, not to a family home.

TPS, I'm the only one in my circle of acquaintances and friends who has tried Softpaws even though a lot of them have cats. The stores that used to carry them locally have all largely discontinued them.

I've tried them on cats and dogs. Works pretty good on dogs, not great on cats as the later shed the entire outer layer of their claws on a regular basis, taking the rubber sheath with it. Applying them to the cat was ...um... traumatic, especially as I rather like to remain not bleeding. Afterwards, the cat spent an hour goosestepping around the house (the hilarity sort of but not completely made up for the multiple lacerations), gnawed two off and went into a frenzy of pawing at every surface of the house. I think he managed to stimulate the growth of his claws because the rest of the covers fell off before the end of the week.

For the dog, I only did it because we were staying w/ friends who have nice hardwood floors and I got very paranoid about our dog doing one of his bongo-drum accelerations down her hallway. The friends insisted we bring the dog (I had planned to kennel him, but they are dog-deprived) so we went with the softpaws. Otherwise, just keeping the dog nails trimmed close works just as well, at least on my meh floors.
posted by jamaro 11 June | 01:27
I once had a kitty that moved in with me and my other two kitties. She was pretty aggressive, tending to bite, but eventually we all learned to get along. She was also obviously pregnant and malnourished when she joined the household.

A couple of nights before her first vet appointment, I attempted to trim her claws. I'd gotten to be pretty good at it. And at giving my cats baths. But I'd had them since they were kittens. Imagine my confusion when I'd gotten her all settled in and pressed on one of her pads. Nothing. No claw. It was weird.

So, the person who'd dumped her in my neighborhood had gotten her declawed but not spayed? I was aghast. I mean, if you're going to go to the trouble to get the cat declawed, why not get it all done, right?

The vet didn't like it, but we ended up decided together that my Jezebel (that's what her name ended up being) was so malnourished that having the kittens would kill her, so she got spayed anyway.

She also tended to bite even when play fighting for as long as she was with me. Ouch. She also liked to rub her paw nubs on the scratching post, which was kind of perplexing, but I always figured that maybe they itched.

posted by lilywing13 11 June | 03:20
Also, one box of toys per kid? How young are they? If they don't have their own room(s), perhaps the future stepdad needs to consider getting a bigger place, since he's gonna have a family. He also should probably rethink his idea of "clutter" when kids are involved.

I am SO glad to have married a reasonable man who is a great stepdad. But I also would have remained happily a single mom in the face of bullshit.



posted by lilywing13 11 June | 03:23
Animals do a lot of destructive and gross stuff. All those cat piss questions on AskMe make me shudder. Dogs seem a little less gross even if more "messy." I like my parents' dogs, but I have a hard time imagining having a pet myself.

Also messy/gross: children.

And further more: significant others.

Not only do other people do gross stuff and make a mess, but they also get their feelings all over the place too. Gah.
posted by mullacc 11 June | 04:33
My sister-in-law and her husband got their kitten declawed and it was all I could do to hold it together when they were talking about it. See, he can't imagine why anyone would keep a cat's claws. "Everyone does it." Even when I talked to them a little about how cruel it was, they just didn't get it.

Can you offer to provide a safe haven for the kids and/or some of their other toys?
posted by anastasiav 11 June | 06:41
Aw... It sounds like mullacc needs a hug!

But first, let me brush some of this excess cat dander and baby spit up off my shirt. (Odd—I didn't even think I owned a cat, let alone a baby.)
posted by Atom Eyes 11 June | 10:53
I think it's time for another video game thread || The Other Side Of Manic:

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