MetaChat - THIS IS A SHOUTING THREAD!!!!!!!!!!

Chill out you weirdo.

posted by mullacc 08 May | 01:03

DO NOT TELL ME HOW TO ACT!!! I didn't snark about your angst with the hairdresser.

posted by brujita 08 May | 01:12

Go ahead. I went on a date with a girl and was nervous about it. Pretty normal.

You're wailing about your building's doormen operating the elevators. WTF?

posted by mullacc 08 May | 01:16

Ladies & Gents! Please hold your spare exclamation marks for a rainy day. Our ancestors got through their lives absolutely hoarding them and here we are, blithering ingrates, just rainin' em all!! over!! the!! place!!!!

posted by Firas 08 May | 01:46

Oh, drat, it's 2:45 am and I was wanting to be in bed by midnite. Yuck!

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posted by Ardiril 08 May | 01:50

I added a "more inside" thingy.

posted by taz 08 May | 03:37

This is about the crap the building owner has has been pulling with the tenants...when he should have turned control over to the owners eight years ago.

This is about my being dependent without my consent. All I need from the doormen is: to accept packages while I'm out, announce my visitors and keep out unwanted people.

This is about my not being able to enjoy my place five years after I moved in.

The message I'm getting from you is to shut up and smile and I don't fucking like it.

posted by brujita 08 May | 04:14

brujita, mullacc is just the wrong person to charge your lance at here. That's all. You're accosting him with "DON'T CONTROL ME" like you were in the middle of a 2 hour conversation about everything bad that's ever happened to you ever, where half of it was his doing.

For what it's worth, I sympathize. The situation sucks. Vent on. That's what shouting threads are for.

posted by Firas 08 May | 04:26

mullacc, you were out of line here. I don't think people should harsh on other folks' shouting threads.

posted by bunnyfire 08 May | 06:29

Yeah wtf, mullacc? This is a shouting thread. People shout in it.

posted by Melismata 08 May | 06:59

Firas, reread mullacc's first comment in this thread.

posted by brujita 08 May | 07:05

I don't have the energy to shout, but:
managing my mom's crises is fast becoming a full-time job. Argh.

posted by BoringPostcards 08 May | 07:09

BRUJITA! THAT WOULD BE SO ANNOYING! MY FRIENDS' CONDO BUILDING HAD A BREAK-IN TO A UNIT AND SO THE IDIOT MANAGERS DECIDED THAT ONLY PEOPLE WITH A KEYFOB COULD USE THE ELEVATOR AT ALL, AND ONLY FOR THE GROUND FLOOR AND THEIR LEVEL, SO WHENEVER WE CAME TO VISIT, THEY HAD TO COME DOWN FROM THE 36TH FLOOR JUST TO WORK THE ELEVATOR FOR US! AND IF THEY WANTED TO VISIT SOMEONE ON A DIFFERENT FLOOR, THEY BOTH HAD TO GO DOWN TO THE LOBBY SO THE PERSON FROM THE 12TH COULD LET THE PERSON FROM THE 36TH GO TO THEIR FLOOR!

IT WAS ESPECIALLY ANNOYING BECAUSE MY FRIEND HAD AN INFANT AT THE TIME, SO IF HER BABY WAS SLEEPING, SHE HAD TO WAKE HER UP TO BRING HER DOWN TO THE LOBBY SO SHE COULD LET US UP THE ELEVATOR! ARGH!

IT WAS INSANE AND STUPID AND SO OBVIOUSLY STUPID THAT I'M SURPRISED THERE WASN'T A RIOT. IT WAS LIKE HOMELAND SECURITY: WE'RE AFRAID SOMEONE MIGHT TERRORIZE YOU SOMEDAY, SO HOW ABOUT WE JUST MAKE YOUR LIFE INSANELY DIFFICULT IN THE MEANTIME.

posted by heatherann 08 May | 07:28

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posted by Lipstick Thespian 08 May | 08:16

Hey fwiw, my take on mullac's comment was that it was meant light-heartedly...maybe I'm missing some history here.

posted by richat 08 May | 09:20

THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS AN "other folks' shouting thread" AND I HOPE THERE NEVER WILL BE!

I HAVE A LOT TO SHOUT ABOUT. I CONSIDER MYSELF A FAILURE. I'LL BE 38 SOON AND I DON'T OWN A DAMN THING. MY APARTMENT ISN'T MY OWN, I DON'T HAVE A JOB, I DON'T BELIEVE IN MYSELF. I DON'T HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE AND THE FREE STUFF IS DIFFICULT TO ACCESS. I HAVE A BIG BRAIN THAT WORKS OVERTIME TO CRUSH MY WILL. I WAS IN LOVE LIKE CRAZY ONCE AND NOW I HAVEN'T KISSED A GIRL IN YEARS. I THINK ABOUT DEATH. I'M ADDICTED TO MARIJUANA. THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY GUTS AND ALCOHOL POISONS ME, MAKES ME PUKE. SOMETIMES I GO A FEW DAYS BETWEEN SHITS. MY MOM DIED AND SOMETIMES I WANT TO DIE TOO. SOMETIMES I HATE THE CITY I LIVE IN, AND THEN I REALIZE IT'S JUST MYSELF OR MY LIFE THAT I HATE; SOMETIMES I TRY TO HATE OTHER PEOPLE, AND THEN I REALIZE IT'S JUST ME. I BLAME MYSELF FOR THINGS GONE WRONG. I DON'T WANT TO BE HEALTHY. I WANT TO BE GONE.

SOME DAYS I'M CRAZIER THAN A SHIT-HOUSE RAT. SOME DAYS I'M CORNERED. THIS ISN'T A CRY FOR HELP, I'M JUST SHOUTING ABOUT WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

I SINCERELY HOPE YOU ALL FACE A WONDERFUL DAY WITH AN UNFURROWED BROW. SMILE, BEAUTIFUL; THE WORLD IS YOURS.

posted by Hugh Janus 08 May | 09:37

my take on mullac's comment was that it was meant light-heartedly

Well, it was light-hearted in the sense that I don't think it's a serious matter. But this is a bizarre complaint to shout about and I felt it deserved to be mocked.

Makes me think of the crazy HOA stories we all hear--you know, the stories where some weird resident goes bananas over some minor thing and makes life more difficult for everyone else. Except instead of hearing from the reasonable people held hostage by the crazy person, we heard the shouts of the crazy person. I think we owe it to the world to mock those people.

posted by mullacc 08 May | 09:45

Hugh Janus does it right.

posted by mullacc 08 May | 09:46

Really mullacc? You wouldn't think it was slightly annoying to be asked to surrender your mail key? Or to not be able to operate the elevator if the doorman is on break? Those things seem pretty damn shoutable to me... Shouting threads don't have to be about life's great struggles.

posted by muddgirl 08 May | 09:48

What muddgirl said. I get shouty all the time about things that may not be shout-worthy in the relative, overall scheme of things. But that is what shouting threads are for.
Now mullacc has set a new tone for shouting threads; he has created doubt and fear that what someone gets shouty about could be immediately mocked, and the shouter denigrated. That's not fair, and that isn't what metachat is about. Poorly played, sir.

Hugh, whatever you may think about yourself, I THINK YOU ARE THE FUCKING MAN. You have long been on my list of metachatters that I want to meet. You too, muddgirl.

posted by msali 08 May | 09:53

I've wanted to shout about stuff that my condo board did at my previous place. I was pissed that they wouldn't let us paint our front door the color we wanted, not being able to use the elevator (not that I've ever lived in a place with an elevator) would piss me off.

posted by octothorpe 08 May | 10:02

Really mullacc? You wouldn't think it was slightly annoying to be asked to surrender your mail key? Or to not be able to operate the elevator if the doorman is on break? Those things seem pretty damn shoutable to me...

Neither of those examples are apparent in what she wrote.

Most shouting threads aren't that bad, but when they are bad they are the worst of Metachat. We tend to be weak-willed enablers, and the shouting threads are the worst of it.

posted by mullacc 08 May | 10:03

SHOUTING THREADS ARE FOR SHOUTING ABOUT WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU FEEL LIKE SHOUTING ABOUT. SNARK IS FOR METAFILTER NOT METACHAT.

posted by doctor_negative 08 May | 10:05

What the hell, mullacc, are you trying to set policy here on metachat all of a sudden? Who gave you the right (or power) to suddenly dictate who we are and what we do here?

posted by msali 08 May | 10:07

I AM ALL SHOUTY NOW ABOUT PEOPLE BEING SHOUTY! STOP SHOUTING ABOUT THINGS THAT I DON'T CARE ABOUT! FROM NOW ON ONLY SHOUT ABOUT STUPID FRAT GUYS RUINING MY NIGHT AT THE BAR AND MY CREEPY FRIEND WHO KEEPS INVITING ME ON THINGS THAT TURN OUT TO BE HIS DATES WITH OTHER WOMEN!

posted by muddgirl 08 May | 10:12

I'm not trying to set policy. I'm just commenting on what I read.

posted by mullacc 08 May | 10:14

YOU KNOW HOW I SAID I GO A FEW DAYS BETWEEN SHITS? WELL, NOT ANYMORE!

IT'S CROWNING!

posted by Hugh Janus 08 May | 10:34

YOU WANNA KNOW HOW I FEEL NOW?

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posted by Hugh Janus 08 May | 10:55

This has taken shitting in a thread to a whole new level. I'm laughing so hard I can type.

posted by lysdexic 08 May | 11:08

I was going to come in here and offer everyone a big hug, but now maybe I'd better wait 5-10 until Hugh stops being quite so eponysterical.

Though I am glad, because shouting threads are all about expelling of heavy, painful loads. And criticizing what lands in other people's bowls is a pointless meanness, because a load is a load, regardless of what you ate. Sure, the stall door is open. Sometimes, a little companionship helps things pass. A friendly fiber recommendation...

stopping now because I suddenly see that this is an inexhaustible metaphor

posted by notquitemaryann 08 May | 11:11

YOU KNOW HOW I SAID I GO A FEW DAYS BETWEEN SHITS? WELL, NOT ANYMORE!

YAY FOR HUGH! THE TURTLE IS POKING ITS HEAD OUT OF THE SHELL!!!

posted by essexjan 08 May | 11:27

I'VE GOT A CRAP ON DECK THAT COULD CHOKE A DONKEY!

posted by msali 08 May | 11:37

TURTLE WENT FOR A SWIM, NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN!

AND STOP FEEDING YOUR DONKEY HUMAN SHIT, MSALI! TALK ABOUT BAD DONKEY BREATH, YIKES!

posted by Hugh Janus 08 May | 11:40

Yeah, there are other things upsetting me right now:

I've observed someone I feel very drawn to behaving horribly and would have wanted nothing to do with this person had I witnessed this when we first met.

I have the feeling that I will be shut out of the plans for the birthday a member of this community shares with me.

My parents are coming to NYC for the long weekend of my birthday. As the bunnies all know, I no longer want anything to do with my mother and she is in denial about this. My father won't travel by himself due to his heart surgery 2 1/2 years ago and seems much frailer than I remember my grandfather at the same age. My brother (who is not speaking to me) will also be in town and will be present at the ash-scattering of my grandmother and great-aunt. My father sees him more often than he sees me, but has always made separate plans with Adam during the yearly trip here. This may well be the last time I see my father...of course if something happens, I will be out to LA pronto.

If the issue is also jealousy about my money and the belief that single women shouldn't have it, that's too bad, but I do NOT deserve to have it taken out on me.

posted by brujita 08 May | 11:43

I've always felt bad (in a "you don't deserve that" sense, not a "you shouldn't be sharing this" sense) when I read about your family situation, brujita. My family has been contracting of late but we've never had issues with caring and communicating like you describe.

I'd be surprised if anyone here is really jealous of anyone's money, or believes that single women shouldn't have it, but I shouldn't speak for anyone else. Sometimes when we don't share common ground, it's easy for us to misunderstand or dismiss what others think; sometimes I think we're just as ready to seek a lack of common ground as we are to seek its presence. Though perhaps looking at jealousy or sexism for clues to others' reasoning isn't always as constructive as it might seem.

I just want to say that despite my threadshitting, I'm not picking on you, brujita; quite the contrary. I like you and think you're no weirder than I am; I look forward to seeing you at some meetup soon. And I hope your apartment issues are resolved. Sounds like a big pain in the neck.

And now WE'RE SUPPPOSED TO BE SHOUTING! THIS IS A SHOUTING THREAD!

posted by Hugh Janus 08 May | 12:23

huh.

posted by richat 08 May | 12:27

I'M ON MY WAY OUT THE DOOR TO GO SEE STAR TREK! YAY!!

posted by deborah 08 May | 12:34

YES, I HAVE A BIRTHDAY ON THE SAME DAY AS YOU.

YES, I AM MAKING PLANS FOR IT.

NO, THOSE PLANS DON'T INCLUDE YOU.

SO NOW, INSTEAD OF WONDERING IF YOU ARE INCLUDED IN MY PLANS, YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO MAKE YOUR OWN PLANS.

posted by essexjan 08 May | 13:07

Damn, I am sensing some tension I was previously unaware of! Peace, love and hugs to everyone. I hope y'all have a fantastic weekend.

posted by msali 08 May | 13:33

For what it's worth, I think the initial concern would be pretty annoying. The implications of the change in building operations are spelled out by muddgirl but they were pretty obvious to me, and if you couldn't see that, mullacc, you could have asked instead of immediately calling someone a weirdo.

On the other hand, brujita, I don't think this is a good place to vent your frustrations about what other community members do in their private lives. Doing it using a sort of code where you avoid naming a person explicitly but use enough specificity to identify the person (I mean, how many community members here share your birthday, really?) seems disingenuous and passive-aggressive. It's pretty much guaranteed not to garner any sympathy in the target of your remark or anyone else.

Also, I'll just note that I became much happier when I stopped caring as much whether I was invited to every social event that any of my acquaintances were organizing. I don't even have time to go to all of the ones I am invited to.

posted by grouse 08 May | 13:37

I'VE GOT A CRAP ON DECK THAT COULD CHOKE A DONKEY!

omifuckingod this is the funniest damn thing I've ever read on Metachat. Of course, context IS everything,
but

DAMN.

lalalalalasdlkjf;aksjdf;kajsdf;kja;sdkfj

posted by Lipstick Thespian 08 May | 13:42

LT, rent Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me. Both EJ and I were quoting a character from that movie, Fat Bastard.

posted by msali 08 May | 13:45

I love how we can talk about pooping and have drama in the same thread.

Of course, pooping *is* drama for many people.

My baby is constipated at the moment. well, not really constipated, it's just hard for her to poop (yes we are trying lots of fixes). So she'll be sitting there and then just burst into tears, a particular sort of cry, and we know the poop is coming.

I feel like that should be a metaphor for something, but I dont' know what.

posted by gaspode 08 May | 13:47

HUGS for Hugh Janus - I cant find your mail so wanted to send you hugs here.

posted by By the Grace of God 08 May | 13:51

I'M ON MY WAY OUT THE DOOR TO GO SEE STAR TREK! YAY!!

YAY! I'LL BE THERE IN A FEW HOURS. EVEN BETTER, MY WIFE'S COMPANY IS PAYING FOR MY TICKET.

posted by octothorpe 08 May | 13:52

Thanks for the hugs, By the Grace of God. My email's supposed to be in my profile, at least that's what my profile says when I look at it. But you aren't the first to say they couldn't find it, so maybe it isn't showing up? I'm pretty sure I checked the right box.

So she'll be sitting there and then just burst into tears, a particular sort of cry, and we know the poop is coming.

I get the same tears and poop-forecast from the first sip of my afternoon Mountain Dew. It's the syrupy slap in the face that knocks the shit out of me, most days.

posted by Hugh Janus 08 May | 14:00

(I see your email in your profile, Hugh, unless you just did something different to change it)

posted by gaspode 08 May | 14:09

I did just change my slogan, but that shouldn't have changed my email add'y status. The relevant box remained checked.

MYSTERIOUS!!!!

posted by Hugh Janus 08 May | 14:16

I'VE CHANGED MY SLOGAN TO BOB WEIR'S DOO!!

posted by danostuporstar 08 May | 14:21

CHILL OUT YOU WEIR DOO!

posted by Hugh Janus 08 May | 14:26

The implications of the change in building operations are spelled out by muddgirl but they were pretty obvious to me, and if you couldn't see that, mullacc, you could have asked instead of immediately calling someone a weirdo.

I don't think muddgirl has it right, so I don't agree it was obvious. I don't know what "handle" the elevators means or what the procedure was before the change brujita is talking about. It seems likely to me that the change being instituted is actually meant to avoid the inconveniences of a keyfob system as heatherann described. But we can't tell because brujita jumps to the conclusion that of course everyone is out to get her, so this is must be a devious plan to deny her the enjoyment of her home. See also "jealousy about my money" and fears of being "shut out of the plans" that someone else is planning for their own birthday.

posted by mullacc 08 May | 14:31

I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE A POOP-FORECAST RIGHT BEFORE WEATHER AND SPORTS!

posted by Lipstick Thespian 08 May | 14:32

Seriously, for the good of metachat, can we just drop it? I don't know why everything has to be a confrontation here like it is on the Blue. It makes reading Recent Comments really unpleasant. I like it much better when we cut each other some slack when it comes to their personal lives.

posted by muddgirl 08 May | 14:36

our personal lives.

posted by muddgirl 08 May | 14:37

*strains; cries*

posted by gaspode 08 May | 14:38

gaspode II: the empoopening

posted by jason's_planet 08 May | 14:41

I don't know why everything has to be a confrontation here like it is on the Blue.

EVERYTHING? On Metachat? Have we been reading the same website?

I think MetaChat errs on the side of being too nicey-nicey. We tend to sweep interpersonal tensions under the rug and, once in a great while, they explode.

posted by jason's_planet 08 May | 14:46

"Now mullacc has set a new tone for shouting threads"

Actually, I crapped on someone's shouting thread a few years ago, so mullacc isn't the first. occhiblu straightened my shit out REAL fast. Believe you me, you do not want to rile her ire.

posted by Ardiril 08 May | 14:50

Muddgirl, while I agree in principle and think shouting threads are all about letting others vent and not stepping on toes, I think you're mischaracterizing what's happened.

Everything is not a confrontation here like it is on the Blue. As a matter of fact, confrontations are rare. The wailing and gnashing of teeth is at a minimum.

Your threshold for aggro may be lower than mine. Actually, I think your threshold for aggro may be about where my threshold for telling people to cool it lies: if you aren't involved in the confrontation, don't join in.

Of course, this right here could be taken as confrontational and inappropriate. But that's exactly why I don't like seeing people tell others to can the disagreement. It's at least as stifling to tell others not to get all up on each other as it is to have a big ugly sprawling fight all over the place.

Which this thread is not; nor do I mean you're doing something really awful, muddgirl. I just think it's another of these "observe with couth" situations that I so often fail at.

And honestly, I like to see the tension: without tension, we'd be nothing but seeping farts and shit pants all day, every day. Really.

posted by Hugh Janus 08 May | 14:55

Also, *sigh*, there's a lot of off-site backstory to some of this angst.

posted by gaspode 08 May | 14:59

Actually, now that I recall more details, occhiblu's brutal bit of honesty was one of my life's major turning points. I never told her that.

"there's a lot of off-site backstory" - heheh, there's more happening on MeCha offsite than happens onsite.

posted by Ardiril 08 May | 15:01

I don't mind dropping it.

posted by mullacc 08 May | 15:02

Of course I was exaggerating for effect, but my point still stands. I don't mind disagreement - hell, I disagree with y'all all the damn time - if that disagreement is part of a civil discussion. I do mind personal attacks, c.f.

But we can't tell because brujita jumps to the conclusion that of course everyone is out to get her, so this is must be a devious plan to deny her the enjoyment of her home. See also "jealousy about my money" and fears of being "shut out of the plans" that someone else is planning for their own birthday.

Not to pick on mullacc because he's not the only one who has engaged in them recently. There is no need to make the implication that mullacc is making. It's not productive or helpful to drag that sort of thing into this thread. If mullacc is seriously concerned about brujita's outlook on life, then he should take it off-line. Otherwise I don't know why he'd mention it.

Again, not to pick on mullacc, and I respect his last post. Just want to point out something that's been bothering me. Maybe I should just take a damned break and find a forum that's more fuzzy.

posted by muddgirl 08 May | 15:04

I know that once people have said they're dropping it, I become the asshole when I want to continue it... but when I see you say this is something that's been bothering you, muddgirl, it gives me the impression that you've been noticing personal attacks and confrontations here quite a bit. I don't want to force an argument or anything, I just find it confusing, since I feel like this place has very few confrontations or personal attacks, and I imagine it would be hard to find a fuzzier forum.

And by admitting my puzzlement, I'm not trying to make some statement about what you think, or anything. I just think we must be in very different boats.

posted by Hugh Janus 08 May | 15:15

I had no idea there was OFFSITE activity at all. That's what I get for living in the wilds of northern Ontario I suppose. It does, however, explain the odd ferocity that is evident at times. Ah well, love to you all. Seriously, on some level anyway.

posted by richat 08 May | 15:46

I would poop on mullacc, for $300, a fancy hotel room, and enough coke to blow us both to Jupiter.

So I don't think that's going to happen.

posted by rainbaby 08 May | 17:25

You got a coke connect? I got the chedda and the crib. LET'S POOP THIS THING.

posted by mullacc 08 May | 17:56

EVERYBODY GO SEE STAR TREK! RIGHT NOW!! I MEAN IT!!!

richat - I don't know about offsite stuff either. Maybe it's the Canada thing, eh?

posted by deborah 08 May | 17:58

EVERYBODY GO SEE STAR TREK!

I DID! IT'S OK. JUST OK. MAYBE I'M TOO OLD SCHOOL FOR THESE NEW-FANGLED FILMS. IT'S LIKE WATCHING A COMIC BOOK! THERE'S TOO MUCH NOISE! BUT UHURA WAS HOT! WHY AM I SHOUTING?

posted by DarkForest 08 May | 18:17

Maybe I should just take a damned break and find a forum that's more fuzzy.

Good luck finding one that isn't totally inane.

posted by ThePinkSuperhero 08 May | 20:35

DAMMIT! I FORGOT ABOUT MEMORIAL DAY! THAT PUSHES MY LAST CARDIO REHAB SESSION BACK ANOTHER 2 DAYS, AS WELL, MY MOVING OUT OF THIS HOT, HUMID CESSPOOL!!!

This is still a shouting thread, right?

posted by Ardiril 08 May | 22:29

WUT?

posted by gomichild 08 May | 23:00

Mullacc, I described the details of the new system in the 3 point update on Monday--and I believe that I have made it crystal clear in past threads that other residents of my building are unhappy with the management.

I think if the hairdresser and your other GF's have been treated with the same condescension and verbal abuse as I was in your first comment in this thread, they are far better off not being involved with you.

posted by brujita 09 May | 05:24

MEANWHILE BACK TO THE SHOUTING
MY HUSBAND MADE ME BREAKFAST THIS AM AND AS i WAS LIFTING UP MY COFFEECUP TO TAKE A SIP A SPIDER LANDED ON MY HAND FROM OUT OF NOWHERE AND THE COFFEE WENT FLYING AND LANDED IN A CONTAINER OF SPLENDA PACKETS AND ETC ETC NOT THE WAY I LIKE TO START A MORNING!!!!!!

AND NO I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP!!!!!!!

posted by bunnyfire 09 May | 06:33

Hi peoples. I don't read this site every single day and I do not commit all posts to memory when I do read the site. I happened to read this shit WITHOUT KNOWING WTF THE DOORMAN/ELEVATOR issue was and I didn't learn what the issue actually was/meant until AFTER brujita had taken a personal jab at Mullacc.

So basically what I'm saying is this:
I love some of you WAY MORE than others today. Hugh Janus and EJ, in particular, sparkle like fancy unicorns!

posted by fluffy battle kitten 09 May | 07:15

Indeed. I was just about to post that not everyone reads every thread.

ahem.

I JUST SPENT MY EARLY SATURDAY MORNING BOILING BABY BOTTLES AND ASSORTED PARAPHERNALIA. IT WAS NOT LONG AGO WHEN I ONLY SAW 6.30AM ON A SATURDAY FROM THE EVENING END, IF I SAW IT. ARGH!

posted by gaspode 09 May | 07:19

I ALSO LOVE GASPODE. GASPODE ALSO SPARKLES LIKE A FANCY UNICORN...and she also apparently SPARKLES LIKE CLEAN BABY BOTTLES!

posted by fluffy battle kitten 09 May | 07:23

≡ Click to see image ≡

posted by essexjan 09 May | 08:10

COULD SOMEONE LOVE ME? I WOULD LIKE TO BE LOVED. I DON'T POST ABOUT MY POOPS OR SPARKLY BABY BOTTLES, BUT I TRY MY BEST.

posted by ThePinkSuperhero 09 May | 09:03

I LOVE TPS, TOO. She's sparkly like a fancy unicorn.

posted by fluffy battle kitten 09 May | 09:05

Those are some sparkly unicorns.

posted by gaspode 09 May | 09:27

Here's some love for you, TPS. Sorry it's of the "first thing Saturday morning, robe hanging open and scratching my ass" variety, but I ain't had my coffee yet and I have a headache. Definitely falls in the 'unconditional love' category cuz it ain't pretty.

posted by Ardiril 09 May | 10:09

OMG, I said "sorry", I never use "sorry" on the web. Where's that blasted coffee?

posted by Ardiril 09 May | 10:11

I never use OMG either.

posted by Ardiril 09 May | 10:17

OMG I've been rubbing off on you. Sorry :D

posted by ThePinkSuperhero 09 May | 11:12

Perhaps some of your facility for wit will rub off as well, cuz mine has been a bit in fail mode lately. ;-)

posted by Ardiril 09 May | 11:20

The elevator in my building kinda smelled last night. And it wasn't even one of rainbaby's poops. :(

I survived it though.

posted by mullacc 09 May | 13:04

Point taken, fbk.

posted by brujita 09 May | 13:59

richat - I don't know about offsite stuff either. Maybe it's the Canada thing, eh?

Me either! It totally IS the Canada thing!!

posted by heatherann 09 May | 14:20

Why I just read this whole thing, I do not know. But since I have, mullacc, I like you, but in this thread, you're being an ass, and you owe brujita an apology, and it's almost enough to make me miss the good ol' days when the mods would have given you a little "time out" for that little "weirdo" comment of yours. I mean, if you were a student in my classroom and had been that out of line with another student, you'd have been standing in the hall waiting for a little talking to, young man.

Not that you don't stand up for yourself just fine, brujita, but I just wanted to lend a little support, if I could. I can't stomach bullying, and this was a clear case of bullying, i.e., picking on someone because they don't seem to match up to whatever set of "social norms" are in play at the moment. I've been on the receiving end of that kind of shit (try not to strain too much, HJ, the doctor says it's not good for you) at various times in my life, and it's never any fun.

And it is a little mean to plan parties, which end up being de facto meet-ups, that exclude an active member of the community. I mean, the last time that happened, ej, where it was only supposed to be a small gathering of "close" friends, it ended up being a big gathering of pretty much all mecha people and their friends, so I think some hurt feelings are not out of line here. I mean, really, in such a crowd, can't we let bygones be bygones? Why leave someone out and leave such a bad taste to an otherwise nice occasion? As you know, I've let certain things be bygones, too.

Geeze, this thread's giving me junior high flashbacks. Maybe I should just shut up now. It's just, I've had to shut up at work to keep my job lately, and if I shut up here too I may burst.

I love you all. Can't we just live and let live? We're all fuckin' weirdos. I thought that's part of what made this place great. Some of us just hide it better.

posted by Pips 09 May | 14:38

Thank you, pips and the others who stood up for me in this thread.

HJ, again I am sorry about your loss and hope one day the courage and strength to overcome your addiction will be in your grasp.

posted by brujita 09 May | 15:01

Pips, brujita wore out her welcome with me two years ago. I don't want to have her (or her issues) at my birthday celebration. The consequences of her behaviour are of her own making.

posted by essexjan 09 May | 16:05

Well, I'm sorry to hear that, ej. I hate seeing mutual friends on the outs. I value both your friendships.

And you're more than welcome, brujita. As a good friend of mine at work is fond of saying, Don't let the bastards grind you down.

posted by Pips 09 May | 17:47

I have to say that I'm having a little bit of trouble wrapping my head around this idea that someone's personal choices about whom to invite to her own birthday party are open to public criticism and debate.

posted by jason's_planet 09 May | 20:19

Indeed, jp.

posted by gaspode 09 May | 21:08

THIS SHOUTING THREAD HAS GONE MORE THAN TWELVE HOURS AND FIFTEEN COMMENTS WITHOUT A MOTHERFUCKER EVEN RAISING A GODDAMN VOICE! AND EXCLAMATION POINTS AT THE END OF SMALL TEXT DON'T COUNT! SO FUCKING SHOUT IT UP, YOU MUMBLING FUCKERS, I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

posted by Hugh Janus 09 May | 21:23

(Pips, you rock.)

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALOOOONGGGG?????? *SHE SAYS WISTFULLY, BEING TOTALLY OUT OF THE LOOP WITH ALL THE DRAMA AND BEING GRATEFUL FOR SAME*

posted by bunnyfire 09 May | 21:36

Well, I'm sorry to hear that, ej. I hate seeing mutual friends on the outs.

Yeah, this always sucks. And this is the situation MetaChat finds itself in right now. I think it's way past time to let this go, here. Two of our members don't get along. Probably never will. They may be having birthday parties at the same time in the same city, so go to one, go to the other, or go to neither one... we're all civil here, and this isn't going to break the place. We're a friendly bunch overall, but that doesn't mean everybody has to be everybody's friend, nor that we're picking teams where this person's friends can't talk to that person's friends. None of us are 12. (I assume.)

Most of us will never meet in person and all this behind-the-scenes drama is just so much noise. If you're not one of the affected parties, ignore it and post some music links, dammit.

posted by BoringPostcards 09 May | 21:58

This is why I've returned to arguing with random drunks in seedy saloons. It's less stressful.

posted by jonmc 09 May | 22:03

You ARE missed here, though, jonmc.

posted by BoringPostcards 09 May | 22:04

I wanna go see jonmc and pips sometime. That's the only thing that would probably ever get me to go to NY one day.

posted by bunnyfire 09 May | 22:09

That would be lovely, bunnyfire... we could share a giant pastrami sandwich. : )

posted by Pips 09 May | 22:15

FUCK YOU ALL FOR NOT SHOUTING!

I LOVE YOU!

posted by Hugh Janus 09 May | 22:27

YOU REMAIN SPARKLY LIKE A FANCY UNICORN, HUGH JANUS!

posted by fluffy battle kitten 09 May | 22:36

I GET NERVOUS BECAUSE I'M THE SPARKLY PINK UNICORN IN THAT PICTURE UPTHREAD AND I THINK THAT MEANS TPS IS GONNA KICK MY ASS! SHE'S THE RIGHTFUL SPARKLY PINK UNICORN, I'M JUST AN IMPOSTOR!

I'M SO SCARED I WET MY SACK!

posted by Hugh Janus 09 May | 22:44

unbelievable, we've awoken people's inner Nurse Ratched now?

posted by Firas 09 May | 22:54

"None of us are 12." - Not yet, give us a couple years.

posted by Ardiril 09 May | 23:07

I'M NOT A BIG SHOUTER!

posted by box 09 May | 23:15

FUCK YOU ALL FOR NOT SHOUTING!

I LOVE YOU!
posted by Hugh Janus 09 May | 22:27

This, and I love jonmc and pips, they are two mechaters I would love to meet IRL.

You, Hugh Janus, I think you and I might have had a thing. I love you all. Brujita, mi pequna bruja, lo entiendo, entiendo si. Mullacc, estou te entedeno um pouco menor, mas suspeito que estah um pouquinho mais complicada que estou entendendo. Sorry for mixing mis lenguas, but this far down thread, who the fuck cares?!

posted by msali 09 May | 23:19

Oy, folks. Everybody go run around the block.

posted by Miko 09 May | 23:33

I am a bully. A bully for justice.

posted by mullacc 09 May | 23:35

I'd just like to say to my Canadian brethren - I know about offsite drama and I'm barely ever ON-site, so puzzle that one out.

posted by SassHat 10 May | 00:15

Well... let's see. If we can separate some things from a few other things:

My only problem with brujita's initial post is that shouting posts do better when long shouting goes on the inside so we don't have a big block of scary caps on the front page. Easily remedied, done and done.

Shouting threads are what they are... people complain about things. Sometimes they are big things, sometimes they are minor things. Sometimes some people think other people's complaints are silly/repetitive/annoying/whatever. I would encourage them not to participate in those posts; they aren't obligatory reading.

Now to the separating...

If any member has a personal problem with another member here, please engage them directly instead of sniping in unrelated posts.

Brujita, you have been guilty of this on several occasions. Mullac, you are apparently guilty of this here. Please don't do this any more.

Obviously, there are issues that are entirely non-metachat related. Warring about these issues in metachat threads with cryptic comments and super-seekrit references sucks, and is really, really rude to everyone else. You people with the drama, you have the technology, please use it to discuss among yourselves.

posted by taz 10 May | 00:49

Taz, I love you.

posted by msali 10 May | 07:51

Taz, I tried to put the "more inside" on preview when I realized what I had done, but it didn't work. Is there a way we can tweak this?

posted by brujita 10 May | 10:31

Wherever the curser is at the point that you click [MI] will put all the following text into the inside.

posted by taz 10 May | 12:14

I KICK YOU, HJ! SO HARD THAT ALL THE POOPS COME OUT!

Meanwhile, I think we should make meetups mandatory so everyone can be part of the drama. It's only fair.

posted by ThePinkSuperhero 10 May | 13:45

WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT?

posted by ethylene 10 May | 15:24

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