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12 February 2009

Don't read that shit! Are there books or genres that, when people let you know they're into, you recoil in horror?[More:]

I'm trying to get over my knee-jerk reactions to others' reading lists; I used to bemoan the loss of so many adults to children's books like Harry Potter until I realized they're just after a good story, and hack though she may be, Rowling is a great storyteller (I'd say the same about Stephen King, whom I've loved since I was a kid).

But there's still stuff that just sticks in my craw, like Tom Clancy or bowdlerized Dumas (read the whole thing, dammit!) and there's even non-fiction that I try not to surround myself with, a lot of political memoirs, autobiographies of titans of industry, books about how to invest money (read books that tell you how money has been poorly invested first). Plus graphic novels (with notable exceptions); I mean, how much do you pay per minute of reading for a graphic novel? Especially when it's a graphic novelization of some worthwhile read; this just makes my skin crawl. And then there's stuff like Gibran's The Prophet, which is great on a first reading but when someone tells me they read it twice every year, I wonder, didn't it inspire you to read other things? Why stop there?

Of course, there are so many exceptions to any of the things I've pointed out here, and of course, I am always delighted to find out I'm wrong and that I have something very interesting to read, like the Potter stuff (though the movies still ruin much of it for me).

And above all I don't mean any offense when I tell you: Don't read that shit!

Please feel free to add your Don't Reads here, without worrying that someone's gonna come along and fly off the handle at you for dissing their favorite book. That's not what this thread's for.
For the love of all that's holy, don't ever read anything written by Dan Brown. Especially The Da Vinci Code. I know I'm a bit late with this warning, but better late than never. Don't read that shit.
posted by Daniel Charms 12 February | 14:15
I just tried to read The Wayward Muse by Elizabeth Hickey. I say "tried" because I just could not make myself finish it. It was truly appallingly written. I thought, hey, new period fiction author, has a couple a books out, let's give her a whirl. Ugh. Ugh.
posted by Specklet 12 February | 14:21
Heh. Dan Brown was the first thing that came to mind as well.
posted by gaspode 12 February | 14:21
Vampire fiction.
Xanth.
posted by WolfDaddy 12 February | 14:22
YES! I came in here to say anything by Dan Brown, heh. A lot of people have read The Da Vinci Code, but I'm always horrified if they go on to say that they've read all the other books by the guy.

The Twilight series is all kinds of terrible.
posted by moonshine 12 February | 14:24
The Secret.
posted by Firas 12 February | 14:30
Nthing Dan Brown.

Also, The Alchemist and any other faux spiritual stuff that helps you "find yourself." It's fine to try and read to see what it is, but please don't tell me it changed your life.

Wally Lamb as well. What terribly written emotional crap!
posted by rmless2 12 February | 14:31
There are tons of bad books out there. It's awful but I'm usually so surprised and pleased that people read at all I don't care what they're reading. Although if they're taking Dan Brown seriously, well, okay, I might back away slowly. Anyway people back away from me when I say I read mostly fantasy & SF.

The worst damn things I ever read were Laurell K. Hamilton's fang banger vampire books, though. Ewwwwww; I wanted to take a shower afterwards.
posted by mygothlaundry 12 February | 14:33
My sister reads Twilight and ... Harlequin romances. *shudder*
posted by heatherann 12 February | 14:53
Romance books, especially Harlequin romance et. al. I worked in a bookstore in college and those ladies knew when those books came in every week. Many a time we had to hurry and put them out because they were clamoring for them.

Also, my father can never say I don't love him because he asked me to read The da Vinci Code for him and tell him what it was about and I did. Why? So he could talk about it at his Knights of Columbus meeting. ugh. That was 2 hours I was never going to get back.
posted by govtdrone 12 February | 14:54
I like Wally Lamb. He's not a phenomenal writer, but I loved She's Come Undone.
posted by Specklet 12 February | 15:07
Bazillionthing the Dan Brown. That hack couldn't scrawl his way out of a public toilet.

For my money, I'd stay away from any novels where the title comes in raised gold lettering or have jackets in colors that veer toward the pink in hue.

Bonus points for not reading work by authors who have names that begin with two initials, i.e. J.A.Jance or V.C. Andrews, etc.

Also, there's a special lava pit in my soul where every copy of The Bridges of Madison County resides.

posted by Lipstick Thespian 12 February | 15:24
I'm trying to get over my knee-jerk reactions to others' reading lists.

This, mostly. In my professional life, I'm very good at it. In my personal life, well, I'm working on it. But even reading vampire erotica or historical romance is better than not reading at all.
posted by box 12 February | 15:24
I read one Wally Lamb book about a pair of brothers, about a year or so ago. I enjoyed it.

Dan Brown - ugh! I borrowed the DaVinci Code from the book exchange at work and ditched it after 2 chapters. I once rush-bought a book at the airport by Nicholas Sparkes called Bend in the Road. What a load of tosh. I was so annoyed. I'd already read the Sky Mall catalogue and seen all the films on the outward journey.
posted by essexjan 12 February | 15:28
But even reading vampire erotica or historical romance is better than not reading at all.

Bingo! That's why I'm tempering my intolerance even as I write.

Take fantasy, for example. I like sword and sorcery stuff about grown men fighting, stealing, and fucking, like Conan; I would understand completely if someone said reading Robert E. Howard was slumming, though. Magical coming-of-age stuff just isn't my bag.

I find sci-fi like Clarke or Herbert to be absolutely stultifying. I like Bester and Dick. It's all a matter of taste. But even after all that gustibus is left undisputed, there is some shit nobody should read.

Like Dan Brown. Good call, people. Dan Brown makes the credible, stupid.
posted by Hugh Janus 12 February | 15:42
I think my husband read three books by Dan Brown. OMG, what does that mean? ;-) Why is Brown so bad again?

I tend to look down my nose at authors that churn out many books in a year. Like Norah Roberts and the like. I shouldn't be talking trash because I have never read anything that she has written.

I'd like to think that I have sophisticated tastes but I tend to admire people that can watch Dancing With The Stars and read everything that Dean Koontz writes and enjoy it for it's pure entertainment.

Haha, I have the audio version of The Alchemist in my iTunes library (it was a free offer and it changed Madonna's life). I haven't read it. I also loved She's Come Undone.
posted by LoriFLA 12 February | 16:05
I look at all the ebook sites, and they're mostly all lists that go like this:

Pro SQL Server 2008 Relational Database Design and Implementation
How to Program in C++
Programming Python
C Programming For Embedded Systems
Complete Java 2 Certification Study Guide
Access Your Hidden Brain power
Sex God Method
40 Mistakes Men Make during Sex
How To Make Sex Last Longer
Female Orgasm Black Book
How to make love all night
How To Give Any Woman orgasm
Make Over Your Sex Life...Tonight!
Sex For Dummies
The Body Language of Sex, Power and Aggression

and so on. There are apparently vast swathes of folks who read nothing but computer programming and how-to sex books. Sometimes I wonder if they ever get them mixed up.

And yes, there are also sites with like a billion trillion vampire erotica same-same-samey books. Different group of readers, there. But, seriously? After you've read 1, 2, 3, 4 sexy vampire books, you really want to just keep going on in that vein? Doesn't it get bloody boring?

But I'm with mgl... I read lots of scifi and fantasy, so I'm not exactly in the hallowed halls and can't harrumph.
posted by taz 12 February | 16:15
I'm amazed that no one has mentioned Ayn Rand yet.
posted by octothorpe 12 February | 16:16
I think my husband read three books by Dan Brown. OMG, what does that mean? ;-)

It obviously means he has a lot of patience.
posted by Daniel Charms 12 February | 16:18
I'm amazed that no one has mentioned Ayn Rand yet.

That's because nobody ever reads her books anyway.
posted by Daniel Charms 12 February | 16:22
I have bigger worries than what other people read. Not saying this to sound superior at all only that I have zero expectation that my reading tastes coincide with anyone else's. I'm always pleasantly surprised to find a common book interest with another. That's just me, though.

I rarely have time for fiction these days. My stack of non-fiction seems to get taller instead of shorter, plus I binge-read fiction which isn't good for my sleep 'habits' (perhaps too strong a term). The last fiction I read was a refresher of Pillars of the Earth, in preparation for the sequel which I now don't dare touch for months.
posted by trinity8-director 12 February | 16:24
Sometimes I wonder if they ever get them mixed up.

Someone should create mashups of sex and programming books: C Programming For Sex, Power and Agression, How to Program In C++ All Night, Sex God Design and Implementation, and so on.
posted by Daniel Charms 12 February | 16:29
Daniel Charms, you're brilliant.
posted by taz 12 February | 16:40
Fortran for Trannies?
ALGOL Days and COBOL Nights?
AutoeroticHotKey
posted by Hugh Janus 12 February | 16:50
Grep and Grope
Dom Scripting for Subs
I've got yer Active Server right Here
Visual Basic, In My Pants

posted by taz 12 February | 17:06
Neal Stephenson. The Neal Stephenson Brigade drives me batty. Go to AskMe, look at any question asking for book recommendations in which the asker lists some of their favorites to give any idea of what they might like. Without fail, whether or not Stephenson has anything remotely to do with what they listed, Stephenson is recommended. Some of the ugliest sentences in the world are found in Neal Stephenson books.

I really do try not to judge Stephenson readers, my partner has even read more than one of his books, but the love some of his readers have for him is blinding them kind of. Maybe. I don't know. So judgey. Make me stop.
posted by birdie 12 February | 19:47
*issad because she likes Nora Roberts/J.D. Robb and re-reads graphic novels and manga all the time because it's still fantastic fiction and storytelling*

But I get heebie jeebies when people say they enjoy Ayn Rand.
posted by TrishaLynn 12 February | 20:45
I too judge romance readers.

Which is unfortunate, because I AM a romance reader. In fact, I'm wanting to WRITE one eventually.

Also on my judge list, Dan Brown, Twilight, Jane Green (whom I've read about every book by, but she makes me cross, and her books aren't great).

many many more.
posted by jonathanstrange 12 February | 21:26
Hmmm. I'm looking at a bookcase right now and Oracle Unleashed stands out a mile. Is it one of Daniel Charms' crossovers? Or the prequel to Atlas Shrugged?
posted by GeckoDundee 12 February | 21:28
Heh, Neal Stephenson's Anathem is the book that made me swear off novels for 2009. Cryptonomicon was brilliant, and The Baroque Cycle was engaging enough to finish, but Anathem was boring as hell. My constant thought was that he was stuck in snow and spinning his wheels.

I read one Dan Brown book. Horrid, it began with the statement, "the technology in this story exists", and later describes an infantry weapon that converts desert sand into glass bullets. As a thought experiment, try to imagine how much the power pack for that would weigh.

Dean Koontz is one author I discredit to other readers. The man is an excellent writer but his plots are so thinly rehashed and far too predictable. On the flipside is Patricia Cornwell. Imaginative plots, sparkling characterization and a great sense of detail, but her writing is very disorganized and her syle is best described as 'ninth-grade nerd'. Her editor(s) should be jailed.
posted by Ardiril 12 February | 22:23
I think it's natural for people to want to expose others to stuff that they like or that they think is good, or even to try to sell them on it. It's like with evangelists--if you were sincerely convinced that Malcolm Glover or Neil Gaiman or Neal Stephenson is a brilliant genius or the best writer in the history of the English language or whatever, then it's at least understandable that you might try to sell people on him.

In my less charitable moments, however, I think that when the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
posted by box 12 February | 22:26
I'm a Neal Stephenson fan... well, up to the Baroque Cycle, which I abandoned halfway through the second book. I have Anathem, but haven't read it yet, so I can't say there. Cryptonomicon was dazzling; I forgive him anything for that one. (And I have a special fondness for Diamond Age, though you can just sort skip/scan through whole blocks of pages in that book without missing much, and, indeed, if you finished it, you probably did exactly that.)
posted by taz 13 February | 00:42
Yes!! V.C. Andrews! More than two Piers Anthony books. Ayn Rand or Nietzsche read for personal inspiration.
posted by halonine 13 February | 11:03
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