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27 June 2008

Is it bad that I prefer the William Shatner/Joe Jackson cover of "Common People" to the original rendition by Pulp?
I've only ever heard the Shatner version. I'll have to check out the Pulp version but I can't imagine that they can enunciate the "Roaches" as cool as Shatner.
posted by octothorpe 27 June | 19:47
No, I do too. Of course, I heard the cover first. Same story with the NIN cover of Joy Divisions "Dead Souls".
posted by puke & cry 27 June | 20:05
I've still never heard the NIN's version of "Hurt" either. Just the Johny Cash one.
posted by octothorpe 27 June | 20:09
I heard the Pulp version first so I'm partial to it. They do a masterful job with the roaches line, but it isn't the same as Shatner's spoken wordish version.

But the Star Trek cartoon mashup is a work of art.

[on preview, I heard NIN's Hurt and Depeche Mode's Personal Jesus first and love them, but Mr. Cash knocked those out of the park. ]
posted by birdherder 27 June | 20:18
Interestingly enough, Reznor has said that "Hurt" is now Johnny Cash's song.

"Hurt" has a lot of power as the concluding track to The Downward Spiral, but I'm probably never going to listen to that album straight through ever again.
posted by grouse 27 June | 20:22
Jarvis Cocker (the man behind Pulp) is always getting robbed... he should be a gazillionaire rockstar by now. This is really just par for the course for him.
posted by BoringPostcards 27 June | 21:16
If memory serves, Bob Dylan said something similar (except more, y'know, Dylanish) about Jimi Hendrix and 'All Along the Watchtower.'

And I don't know if Otis Redding ever said that about Aretha Franklin and 'Respect,' but he sure should've.

On preview, didn't Cocker do something to piss off Michael Jackson?
posted by box 27 June | 21:16
Not so much with Cash's cover of "Rusty Cage". That one wasn't as good as the original.
posted by puke & cry 27 June | 21:17
And I don't know if Otis Redding ever said that about Aretha Franklin and 'Respect,' but he sure should've.


I believe the direct quote was, "That girl just took my song". Something to that effect, anyway.
posted by bmarkey 27 June | 21:30
She's a great interpreter. 'Eleanor Rigby,' 'Bridge Over Troubled Water,' I could go on like this.
posted by box 27 June | 21:34
No kidding. There was a time when she could have sung the phone book and made something out of it.
posted by bmarkey 27 June | 21:36
OK, I just listened to the Pulp version from p&c's link and um, well, it kind of sucked. I didn't expect it to be so tinny and whiny. I guess that I just don't get British pop.
posted by octothorpe 27 June | 22:35
I also heard the Shatner version first and never knew it was a cover until some NPR spot on 90's british bands. . . do I downloaded the Pulp one and I dig that more.

I have been known, at moments of exasperation with my cats, to break into you will never understand. . .etc, in their general direction. Apparently they think there are things that I will never understand either.
posted by danf 27 June | 23:12
Love both. To me, Pulp is the missing link that takes me through the 90s (I was never into Radiohead etc. as much, or even Blur). I love Cocker's lyrics and this one is no exception -- whether it's based on a personal story or not doesn't matter so much as that he's definitely lived the elements. It fits in with a lot of his other songs like Disco 2000 (not coincidentally their other great anthem).

The Shatner/Jackson/Ben Folds (who arranged it) version is great in its own way, though. Folds is the one who figured out that it would be a great match with Shatner's spoken-lyrics approach and he nailed that.
posted by stilicho 27 June | 23:23
On preview, didn't Cocker do something to piss off Michael Jackson?

At the 1996 Brit awards, Cocker jumped on the stage during Michael Jackson's performance and started to mimic his moves (he later claimed he'd been pissed off by Jackson pretending to be Jesus). Panic ensued and a few children received minor injuries. Cocker was nearly charged with assault, but narrowly escaped charges.
posted by Daniel Charms 28 June | 01:58
I like both versions too.

But great as he is, I think you should be a bit embarrassed to prefer The Shat. He lacks a certain amount of authenticity when delivering those particular lyrics.
posted by TheophileEscargot 28 June | 02:29
On preview, didn't Cocker do something to piss off Michael Jackson?


I had a vague recollection that Jarvis also dropped his pants and waggled his bottom in Jackson's direction (a foolhardy thing to do, I'm sure) but I must have dreamt that. I did find this, which appears to be a quite thorough and credible account of the event.

I do adore Jarvis.

And wasn't that the same year one of the Oasis brothers snarked at Michael Hutchence and received a kiss in return?
posted by goshling 28 June | 06:16
OK, the more I listen to these two versions, the more I realize that it is all about Joe Jackson. I'm not actually sure I prefer Shatner's spoken word part at all.
posted by grouse 28 June | 11:55
But ... Denny Crane!
posted by stilicho 28 June | 12:38
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