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13 May 2008

Watch HC victory speech now. [More:]It's supposed to be history in the making. For speechwriting, that is.
Unless it's Hillary conceding, I'll pass.
posted by Lipstick Thespian 13 May | 20:12
It was good, but not historic.
posted by LoriFLA 13 May | 20:29
why no linky?
posted by Lipstick Thespian 13 May | 20:35
Oh sorry, LT. She gave the speech in WV minutes ago, It's probably not available on the internet yet.
posted by LoriFLA 13 May | 20:44
This election is insaaaaaane. INSANE I tell you.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 13 May | 21:09
Just out of curiosity, what about it was supposed to be historic?
posted by bmarkey 13 May | 21:09
NYTimes has the text of the speech.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 13 May | 21:12
Hmm. It reads like the usual stump speech - nothing historic there. (And I could be wrong, but I think she's being wildly optimistic when she says that Obama supports seating the Florida and Michigan delegations.)
posted by bmarkey 13 May | 21:21
Historic levels of hubris? After the last eight years, that'll be hard to achieve.
posted by jtron 13 May | 21:24
I really can't take it anymore. Please knock me out and wake me up when we have a candidate, for sure, for reals, in stone. Please. Please.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 13 May | 21:25
"I want to command Senator Obama and his supporters."

Golden.
posted by pokermonk 13 May | 21:30
To be fair, I suspect that that's a typo.
posted by bmarkey 13 May | 21:34
Maybe it's historic because this is one of the first elections where an eligible candidate is being publicly hounded out of the race by the media before the other candidate has won enough delegates.
posted by muddgirl 13 May | 21:59
an eligible candidate is being publicly hounded out of the race by the media


Really? Last I'd heard, she said she was staying in there until the last dog was hung.
posted by bmarkey 13 May | 22:05
Also, I think Howard Dean has better a claim on that than Senator Clinton would.
posted by bmarkey 13 May | 22:08
Really? Last I'd heard, she said she was staying in there until the last dog was hung.

Am I using "hounded" wrong? Probably.

Dean placed 3rd in Iowa, 2nd in New Hampshire, and 3rd in Wisconsin, dropping out shortly thereafter. Yes, the media twisted his campaign into something rather unbecoming, and were quite possibly responsible for his poor showing in Wisconsin, but I would not say he was in any way facing a similar situation to Sen. Clinton.
posted by muddgirl 13 May | 22:33
Slate's currently giving her a 2.9% to win. She's far behind in popular vote and delegates and out of money. Anyone who is telling her to get out is just doing it to give her a chance to save what's left of her dignity after the terrible campaign she's run.
posted by octothorpe 13 May | 22:57
I'm not sure if this election is already wearing me down or if it's charging me. I'm anxious to keep up on it and am genuinely interested in various views on what's going on. But on the other hand, I just want to vote already and go back to worrying about what the next record I'll buy is.
posted by Slack-a-gogo 13 May | 23:24
I read something interesting, saying that maybe it's best for Clinton to stay in the race awhile, because it would look bad for Obama to lose two states to a candidate who's dropped out. I don't know if there's any merit to the idea, but it was something to think about.
posted by unsurprising 14 May | 03:13
More important right now is the fact that our elected officials are looking to tap our strategic reserve. While this MAY reduce gas prices in the short term, by reducing our buffer against international incidents, it points towards long-term destabilization and pricing chaos.

This is one item upon which I agree with Bush.

But oh, don't let me distract you from the media circus over the next figurehead.
posted by Eideteker 14 May | 07:15
Maybe historic was the wrong adjective. The cable news was buzzing that this was supposed to be a great speech before she went to the podium. The Clinton people told the newspeople that it was going to be earth shattering. I agree, it was a regular stump speech. Nothing too special. I am impressed with Senator Clinton's speech giving skills. She doesn't miss a beat.
posted by LoriFLA 14 May | 07:57
She doesn't miss a beat


No, she usually keeps time fairly well with that whole point-point, clap-clap, look faux-surprised thing at the podium, I'll give you that.

History is being made right now in the Obama campaign.

Any of his speeches is worth far more of my time than this. He knows far better how to handle the moment he's in than she does.

posted by Lipstick Thespian 14 May | 08:47
I'm an Obama fan. I like Clinton. I like Obama. I'm still undecided.
posted by LoriFLA 14 May | 13:06
Clinton's only chance of winning is to convince the superdelegates to support her, and she is not convincing them: 42 superdelegates have endorsed Obama since the beginning of May, compared to 10 for Clinton, and he now leads her in superdelegate endorsements after she started the campaign with a 2-to-1 advantage.

She kicked Obama's ass in West Virginia (as she was expected to), but he still got more votes than McCain did. (As has often been the case this year, the second-place Democrat got more votes than the first-place Republican.)

Clinton won 20 delegates yesterday, but she still trails Obama by about 164 delegates. There are only 189 delegates left in the remaining primaries, they get split proportionally based on the vote, and Obama's favored to win at least Oregon.

She can't catch him in delegates, and all the superdelegate momentum is toward Obama.
posted by kirkaracha 14 May | 13:40
Looking at Slate's delegate calculator, she can't catch him in delegates even if they split Oregon 50/50 and she gets 100% of the delegates for Kentucky, Puerto Rico, Montana, and South Dakota.
posted by kirkaracha 14 May | 14:26
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