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30 January 2008

Talk me out of it!!? I'm all weight-lossy and pink hair-confident and feel like getting freaky with the vinyl. STEP IN, O wise bunnies.
Unless you are attending some sort of vinyl convention, no. That dress isn't even flattering on the model in the picture- shiny fabric only accentuates the worst parts of a person. Never wear something that a model can't make look good (this is one reason I never wore tube tops).
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 30 January | 13:18
What TPS said. Unless you hit the goth clubs a lot. Then it's de rigeur (mortis).
posted by me3dia 30 January | 13:20
But you definitely buy something pretty for yourself. How about something like this? I think the blue is lovely.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 30 January | 13:24
Vinyl no. Latex yes!
Besides, it's more eco-friendly.
posted by ooga_booga 30 January | 13:28
good point, oog. Now there's a guy with some style! *paws jacket some more*
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur 30 January | 13:30
I like it. (Shrug.)
posted by Claudia_SF 30 January | 13:35
All I can think of is how sweaty such an outfit would be.

Sweaty. Rashy. Uncomfortable.

Did I mention sweaty?
posted by bunnyfire 30 January | 13:36
I love lip service; i even have some of their vinyl, but for full-body PVC you really need something specifically fitted to you or it does tend to be loose in the wrong places and tight in the wrong spots.

Where do you plan to wear your new getting freaky with the pink hair dress? I like the dead and gone dress, myself! And I would totally wear it around town on a weekend.
posted by crush-onastick 30 January | 13:41
It would be for parties or fairs, concerts or bars, though I'm the "gothiest one" in my circle, and don't really go to goth oriented places.

bunnyfire, I don't live in such a humid climate as you, I don't think. Pleather and vinyl tanks and pants have never been a problem sweatwise.

crush, I'm easy to fit size-wise, I can usually trust the natural cut of stuff, but I'm definitely having nerves because I'm also cheap! The last think I bought for this much from LS was my Senior Prom dress! :O *ooh maybe I should just dig that out of storage...*
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur 30 January | 14:00
It's ill-fitting and the collar is silly.

You would look good in one of kellydamnit's corsets.
posted by iconomy 30 January | 14:23
On the plus side, Flash Gordon would lurve it.
posted by stilicho 30 January | 14:25
On the plus side, we'd all be able to hear her coming from blocks away. She wouldn't be able to sneak up on anyone. There's that.
posted by mudpuppie 30 January | 14:36
Lip service quality has really gone downhill in the last five years, for what it's worth. I have a few ancient shirts I got back in college that are still kicking around, but a skirt I got last year fell apart in the wash after six months.
Plus, I get sick of seeing that sort of thing at the club. Here's a group of girls all in lip service, and there's a group all in plastikwrap, and no one really does anything but grab a pre-assembled outfit off a store shelf anymore. I don't like going out and seeing someone wearing the same thing as me, and it seems like that's just a given when you wear lipservice.

Besides that, from a seamstress standpoint, there is NO WAY they can make a full pvc dress that structured that will fit even half the people who try it on unless it laces all the way down the back or something. I mean, it has built in cups... if your chest is too big you'll have quadboob, too small and they'll look kind of odd and dented in. The bodice fits the model ok, but the skirt is too big on her. PVC shouldn't be baggy. I don't know, I suspect if you get it you'll wear it once or twice and forget about it, since it's not really something you can mix and match with other items, and you don't want to be "that girl who always wears the lip service dress" at the club or whatever. (we have one of those, but it's a guy, and it's a lipservice pseudo straightjacket top, and he wears it to just about every goth night and show.)
posted by kellydamnit 30 January | 14:42
I hate the collar too. I'll focus on that and not the shiny metallic parts I do like. Consider me talked down. Whew.
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur 30 January | 14:44
I don't know. It looks a bit poorly constructed to me. And I do/did own stuff by Lip Service. Like, if I wanted to be charitable, I would give them the benefit of the doubt by saying it's a size too large for the model, but when I see how it fits in certain places, I realize it's just an awkward cut that's going to only work for a specific body, if any. And especially because it is vinyl. It looks like they tried to get around the "let's try to make this fit as many people as possible" by inserting fabric panels here and there...but yea...

edit: oh hey, ha my input not needed anymore. Oh, well.
posted by kkokkodalk 30 January | 14:47
Notes about their quality decline very appreciated, kellydammit. I have their classic matte ballgown and it's a workhorse and a pairable classic (the aforementioned prom dress). The last thing I want to do is buy a piece of shit. I just love the metallic. Anyone seen that anywhere else?
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur 30 January | 14:50
Wait, kelly, do you think I shouldn't buy a pvc cincher from them, even? I suppose you'd have an opinion?
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur 30 January | 14:51
Vinyl belongs on turntables, not bodies.
posted by jonmc 30 January | 19:43
I'm not even remotely qualified to offer fashion advice to anybody, but here goes: ninety dollars seems like an awful lot of money to spend on a not-particularly-well-constructed (or so I've just learned) dress, especially one that's only appropriate for a fairly narrow set of occasions. Ninety dollars for a sex toy, however, seems very reasonable.
posted by box 30 January | 20:17
OK, well, in terms of corsetry I am obviously biased.
But, here's my thoughts. There are three kinds of corsets. Custom ones, plastic boned shit, and cheap ones that don't fit a single person on the planet correctly since humans don't come in standardized small, medium, and large.

I don't personally know if Lip Service is selling plastic crap (plastic warms to the body, warps, and never returns to the original shape, which can give the impression of bulges where there are none at your waist from bending and sitting), or if they're selling something with metal bones... but I wouldn't want to wear anything sized S-M-L that used steel to reshape my body. There's a lot more fun ways to get a bruised rib, sore hips, or bleed under the arms. And you'll end up with at least one unless you're the same torso length, with the waist at the same position relative to the hips, as the model. With the same waist-hip ratio.

(story time: my first corset I had custom made... back when I was 18 or so, was a total dud. I paid what was a fortune for me at the time, and the seamstress didn't draft the pattern down for my height. I wore it once, left the club early, and sat with my arms over my head the next day since the bones were cut to someone taller than 5'2", which made them dig into my underarms until I bled. It hurt so bad I didn't even notice a bruise all around my ribs until later, because the waist was set two inches higher than mine and it cinched at my ribs instead, which didn't feel like moving. The waist, hip and bust were correct, but the distances were all wrong, and I ended up ripping it apart to recycle the bones when I decided to try and make my own.)
posted by kellydamnit 31 January | 01:13
The skirt version seems like the obvious compromise! Less to worry about fit-wise, still get all the metallic goodness, and half the price. It's a lot shorter, but fuck it, if you're self-conscious of showing all that leg put some super opaque black tights under there. Or, to keep the shine alive, lamé leggings. (And the matching shirt is pretty hot in a way that the top part of the dress really isn't.)

posted by birdie 31 January | 02:41
Oh, and just in case you haven't, New York Apparel and Piedmont Boutique in San Francisco (both on Haight) have lots of cheap shiny slutty awesomeness.
posted by birdie 31 January | 03:00
Yeah, birdie, I do like that skirt, but once skirts are that short, they just don't cover my ass. Good call on the lame leggings, though. I love those. I have a silver pair and a black shiny vinyl type pair, plus colors. Next time I'm in the city I'll demand to go up to the Haight to tramp out.

Thanks, Kelly!! I'm in the market for both an under+overwear tightlacer and a little overwear black cincher, which I basically equate with a belt, and think could be chintzy, up to a point, wrt plastic bones. I was looking at that kind of thing from LS. I need other stores, huh!
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur 31 January | 13:47
Good lord that vinyl thing looks super-cool. I say do it, let your freak flag fly!
posted by Rembrandt Q. Einstein 31 January | 19:39
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