MetaChat REGISTER   ||   LOGIN   ||   IMAGES ARE OFF   ||   RECENT COMMENTS




artphoto by splunge
artphoto by TheophileEscargot
artphoto by Kronos_to_Earth
artphoto by ethylene

Home

About

Search

Archives

Mecha Wiki

Metachat Eye

Emcee

IRC Channels

IRC FAQ


 RSS


Comment Feed:

RSS

19 November 2007

AskFilmMecha: What about the dialogue in Mamet's The Spanish Prisoner? (possible spoilers) Does it sound stilted because it is Mamet, or because the acting is weak in spots? Or both? [More:]Is this typical Mamet? It has been criticized as being stilted, but I wonder if something else is going on.
I blame Mamet for trying to direct his own script. Even worse than than the dialog and the actors' recitations were the huge plot holes that grew even bigger on the second viewing.
posted by mischief 19 November | 13:46
I've seen it a few times. Some of the biggest plot holes...


SPOILER ALERT



























Is the unreality of how carefully the con artists would have to script everything for it to work. And the cinematography is heavy handed. Look! Look at the knife he is using! It will show up later!

Although the Chekovian guns over the fireplace at the beginning are a nice touch.

Why did Ricky Jay die? He was obviously in on the con, wasn't he? Just a sacrificial player?
posted by craniac 19 November | 14:21
I've added "possible spoilers" to your title, craniac, I hope you don't mind. What this does is automagically black out comments in this thread on the "recent comments" page, so that people don't accidentally read info that they don't want to see, if they haven't seen the film/read the book, etc.

Readers can just select/highlight the blacked out bits in order to see them on the Recent Comments page, and they always appear as normal inside the thread.
posted by taz 19 November | 14:30
Oh, thanks!
posted by craniac 19 November | 14:33
I thought the delivery of the dialog was an artistic choice? Sure seemed like it and it was part of the appeal for me.
posted by mullacc 19 November | 14:47
I have seen it 3 times and I get SO hung up on Rebecca Pidgeon that I can't really concentrate on the script, dialogue, blocking, performances, anything else.

Then I have to excuse myself from the room.

No really, for some reason I love the movie, even with its obvious flaws. It gets a pass, mostly because it's enjoyable to sit in front of.
posted by danf 19 November | 14:47
I saw it when it was out in theatres, and my reaction was the same as mischief's. I've never been a Mamet fan, and I think the producer who gave him a director's chair should be spanked.
posted by mudpuppie 19 November | 15:32
Trivia! Rebecca Pidgeon is David Mamet's wife.
posted by rainbaby 19 November | 16:23
Trivia! Rebecca Pidgeon is David Mamet's wife.


Yeah.

She and Felicity Huffman appeared in Mamet's Boston Marriage. Would love to have seen them in that, or see the play at all, as a matter of fact.
posted by danf 19 November | 16:32
Is it just me, or does quoting break the spoiler code?
posted by box 19 November | 16:33
Are you really complaining about the stilted dialogue in one particular Mamet movie?
posted by kirkaracha 19 November | 16:33
I'm trying to find out where the line between Mamet's dialogue and his wife's acting is, and trying to figure out if the stilted, self-conscious dialogue contributed to the themes of the movie in any significant way. So yes, I guess I am.
posted by craniac 19 November | 17:00
Steve Martin was the only actor there who could pull off those lines, and I think the reason for that is because he was a writer himself oh so long ago.
posted by mischief 19 November | 19:02
ask MeCha - good alternatives to Bulfinch's? || Nabaztag's brainy wifi bunnies.

HOME  ||   REGISTER  ||   LOGIN