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30 August 2007

Ask Mecha: Dating advice. Is there a graceful way to email this person?[More:]

I'm including details which may be irrelevant, just so you people have all the facts.

Last week I went out to dinner with a woman who lives in the same town I do, which is rare. We both had a good time (I think), and as we were getting into our cars, she said, "Next time I think we should go hiking." (We had talked about the fact that neither one of us has local hiking buddies.) She also said, "Keep sending me emails -- they're really funny."

So the next day, I sent her an email thanking her for a good time, saying I hope we could do it again. I also sent her a link to a site I thought she would enjoy (with the reasoning that it would have to do because I couldn't think of anything clever to say).

Okay, so, that was a week ago, and she didn't email me back. I know it's not that she's been away from the computer for a week, so that's out.

Maybe I got mixed signals, but I thought she seemed interested in getting together again. I mean, she said so. It could have been politeness, but it was a little more specific than "We should do this again sometime," which is what I'd expect from a brush-off. She was fun, and I'd really like to expand my circle of friends here in town, so I want to try one last time to make contact.

How do I do that without sounding needy (I'm not), angry (I'm not), or stalkerish (I'm not). I also don't want to sound like the person you went out with once who now won't leave you alone. That's not where I'm coming from at all, but everything I've come up with comes across that way.

So, people, please advise.

Also, I probably shouldn't point out that I'm not strictly looking for "dating" advice. I could go either way on that -- I liked her well enough, but would be happy if she just turned out to be a friend. This could be part of the problem from her end, too, which is maybe why she hasn't responded. But it seems like overkill to explain all that in an email to someone you've only met once, you know?
I think it's too soon to e-mail her again unless you want to make specific plans to do something with her (because what's the point otherwise?). So I say, plan a hike, and then e-mail her a week or so in advance and say, hey, I'm planning this hike, want to go? If she doesn't respond to that, then she's gone.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 30 August | 14:16
I do what TPS says, though my success rate is pretty mixed.
posted by small_ruminant 30 August | 14:22
Some people have certain forms of communication that, for whatever reason, they periodically can't be bothered by. (For me it's voicemails on my cellphone--it sometimes takes me ages to reply to those. And I have good friends who wouldn't be my friends if I expected them to reply to e-mails in a timely fashion--they won't, unless I specify within the e-mail that it's time-sensitive.)

So I would give her the benefit of the doubt. Wait another week, and then say something brief like--

"Hey, [name]--I haven't heard from you in a while. How are things these days? Do you want to make that hiking thing happen sometime? Let me know."
posted by Prospero 30 August | 14:24
Another vote to ask her to go hiking.
posted by LoriFLA 30 August | 14:27
"Hey, [name]--I haven't heard from you in a while. How are things these days? Do you want to make that hiking thing happen sometime? Let me know."

Mmmm, this reads a little desperate to me- it's been two weeks, that's not really "a while". And it's so vague- "hanging out sometime" is a horrible cycle to get caught in. You gotta have a plan.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero 30 August | 14:30
I'd wait a week and if you haven't heard from her, drop her a line saying "thinking of going hiking this weekend, care to join?"
posted by SassHat 30 August | 14:31
What is this strange thing called 'dating' of which you speak?
posted by essexjan 30 August | 14:32
I agree with everyone who says to plan a cool hike and then email her and say that you were thinking of going on a hike on Sunday (or whatever day) and seeing if she'd be up for it.
posted by Sil 30 August | 14:35
Mmmm, this reads a little desperate to me- it's been two weeks, that's not really "a while". And it's so vague- "hanging out sometime" is a horrible cycle to get caught in. You gotta have a plan.


On the other hand, e-mailing her with a clear plan can also seem pushy, and the idea of planning something alone and then asking her along can come off as transparent. It depends on how she decides to read things.

It's a gamble either way, really.
posted by Prospero 30 August | 14:41
Some people won't e-mail you back unless you've asked them something specific. Even then, she may be busy. "Hey Linda, how have you been? I've been busy with X, Y, and Z this week. I'm really looking forward to getting outdoors this weekend. I've heard that Oak Leaf Trail over near Rogers Canyon is really scenic. What do you think about going with me on Sunday? I'll bring [some food she likes]."

If she doesn't respond at all, she's not interested or she's inconsiderate. She'll either respond with "Sure" or "No thanks, I'm not interested" or "I can't, I'm busy." In the event of the last response, the ball is in her court to suggest a different time. Another two weeks go by without contact and you can probably write her off.
posted by desjardins 30 August | 14:46
P.S. I don't think making specific plans is pushy at all. If she likes you, but really doesn't want to go to Rock Canyon, or she'd rather go bowling or see a movie, she should say so. I'm sure YOU'D be happy to do most anything she wants, right? If she's so passive that she won't tell you what she wants, do you really want to date someone whose mind you have to read?
posted by desjardins 30 August | 14:49
It's polite to have a specific plan when you ask out a lady. That way she can turn you down with a polite excuse, avoiding into an embarrassing situation where she reveals she's not interested in seeing you at all. This applies even if you are a lady yourself.

Call, don't e-mail.
posted by grouse 30 August | 14:50
Sometimes I can be really bad at emailing friends back because I want to say something more interesting and/or fun than what I can come up with quickly, so I put it off until I can spend some time on it (which often means I just don't end up writing back)... She might be this way, or possibly feeling a little intimidated that her writing won't be as good or amusing as yours (you know - people sometimes worry about silly stuff).

I say wait at least a week, then email to say something like desjardins suggested... "I'm thinking of doing X, email or give me a call if you'd like to join me!" That way, if she is feeling like she's not "up to" the emailing she can call instead.

I think it would be odd to be so specific about asking you to email and suggesting a particular activity to do together if she were feeling "meh".
posted by taz 30 August | 14:52
Continuing the "funny emails" is another possible way to get the conversation started again.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson 30 August | 15:00
I think taz is totally correct.
posted by crush-onastick 30 August | 15:09
Is it at all possible she didn't get the last email? She likes the funny links. Send her this. 3 guinea pigs & a cucumber It's way cute. Keep up the emails at the same pace as before, and look for a good, lowkey hiking opportunity.
posted by theora55 30 August | 15:39
Mmmm, this reads a little desperate to me- it's been two weeks, that's not really "a while". And it's so vague- "hanging out sometime" is a horrible cycle to get caught in. You gotta have a plan.


On the other hand, e-mailing her with a clear plan can also seem pushy, and the idea of planning something alone and then asking her along can come off as transparent. It depends on how she decides to read things.


Yeah, but there's someplace in between "sometime" and "nature trails by the park just south of town, at three PM Sunday."
Like "hey, three day weekend, feel like hiking on Monday?"

Also agreeing with taz.
posted by kellydamnit 30 August | 16:25
theora that guinea pig clip is adorable!

I'm with taz on the method of approach. And I'd go with an email - I think a phone call could be perceived as pushy. But then again, I hate phones, so I might be wrong.
posted by chewatadistance 30 August | 16:49
Definitely one of those "I've got a six; let's hang!" situations. The trick lies in choosing the right six. I'm reading Michelob Ultra here.
posted by mischief 30 August | 21:09
"3 guinea pigs & a cucumber" : I think there's a metaphor on capitalism in there somewhere.
posted by mischief 30 August | 21:13
Thanks for the advice, y'all. I'll do what you say and give it a week.

Thanks also for not turning "3 guinea pigs & a cucumber" into some sort of sex joke.
posted by mudpuppie 30 August | 21:59
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