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24 May 2007
My landlady wants me to bleach the grout between the kitchen tiles. Before I move out, of course. →[More:] Is this as odd as it seems to me? Or normal?
Get a cleaning company in and then show the receipt...my place in Iowa gave a whole list of things-- which I made a point of doing-- but was still deducted (but then the manager my second year was a blatant anti-Semite--from Utica, NY).
It is odd. I've never heard of that, even in SF. Reminds me of this one landlord I had (super nice guy, other than this) who attempted to refuse my deposit because I hadn't replaced the kitchen light with a brighter one. Never mind it was the same light that was there when I moved in. "It couldn't have been," he insisted. "How could you have even seen to cook?" I wanted to say, "well, if you think it's too dim to cook with, then why did you expect me to cook with it when I moved in?" But I was speechless -- it was just so strange and absurd and unexpected.
I'd consider double checking with the landlady to see if there's anything else she expects -- just to cover your derrière.
Very odd. I've never had to do this. I've only had one landlord complain that I didn't clean the oven very well; but it was much cleaner than when I moved in.
The management in the hacked up brownstone in Boston did this too, but didn't give me a list in advance.
The asshole who owned the condo in Denver tried to pull this as well, but he'd been coming in without giving me advance notice.
IAAL(I am a landlord) The general requirement is to leave it pretty clean. It's the Landlord's job to do the big cleanup for the next tenant. But on a common sense basis, cleaning the grout w/ bleach pen isn't difficult, and may save hassle.
Take pictures. Take pictures when you move in, and when you move out. It saves a lot of trouble later.
No advice on the landlord front. I have an anecdotal grout tale, though.
My kitchen counters are tile too. (Pain in the ass, actually. I have three separate areas of counter space: One on either side of the sink and one next to the stove. The one next to the stove and one of the spaces next to the sink are where I do all kitchen prep stuff, set dirty dishes, etc. The space on the other side of the sink is where my dish rack is. There is always a towel under the dish rack.
It's pretty incredible how much whiter the grout is underneath the dish rack than where I do actual cooking. So it's true that normal wear and tear really does have an affect.
If yours is all uniformly discolored, though, I don't see what the big deal is.
Before you go to the effort of doing all the grout with one of those bleach pens, though, test a single spot. The bleach pen didn't work on my grout. I would have been pissed if I spent a lot of time on it.
My own landlord made this one of the conditions of getting my entire deposit back. I left the apartment in better condition than when I moved in.
By the way: turn on fan, put Clorox bleach on tiles, sponge around, wait 30 sec, push water-bleach mixture into sink with sponge. There, that took all of 2 minutes. Don't splash your clothes or your eye.
As ikkyu2 shows this particular task is not the most difficult, however where I take issue is in where does this stop? To clean an entire apartment to that level of detail requires that everything first be moved out.
From a tenant I would expect the carpets vacuumed and the floors mopped, but before a new tenant moves in, the landlord should be shampooing those carpets and waxing the floors.
Same for counter-tops, tenant: wipe-down; landlord: sanitize.