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13 February 2007

Giant funnel-like "morning glory spillway" drain thingy at a dam. Now that, that is the stuff of my worst nightmares. Irresistable hydraulic forces. Creepy black-hole event horizon effect. Shit like this and maelstroms and whirlpools tornados freak me out. [More:]But then I see the exit pipe and I want to skate it, and wonder if it would be possible to ride down it while it was dry in some kind of caged ground luge contraption -- or maybe if I could skate it and manage to stick a wall-ride all the way down in a death-spiral if I got the angle right but then oh shit if I'm wallriding the vertical tube then I'll be doing fucking loops in the horizontal exit tube and how exactly would I line the exit up on that and stop looping without landing on my fucking head - assuming of course I don't snap from the g-forces or my wheels and bearings don't burst into flames or that I don't just fall to my death and explode like a sack of meat at the bottom.
gloryhole? see, that means something completely different where I come from...
posted by small_ruminant 13 February | 15:31
That's awesome. I want to ride it, too. You go first so I can see the pitfalls. :D

I'm saving the article for my daughter. She wants to be one of the hydraulic engineers that dismantles dams.
posted by reflecked 13 February | 15:32
When I read your description, I was all: oh, that wouldn't freak me out. But then I saw it and that shit is freaky!

Also: gloryhole? *snurk*
posted by Specklet 13 February | 15:49
wow
posted by ethylene 13 February | 15:55
also: "morning glory" hehheh
posted by TheDonF 13 February | 15:59
It HAS been skated, at least the lower part.

At least someone has written about it.
posted by danf 13 February | 16:24
Looking at the intake funnel when it's dry I can see that skating it would be impossible if only because of what looks like 5 inch wide expansion-gap cracks in the concrete casing segments.

Given a nice, smooth, skateable funnel of an appropriate size and radius there's no logical reason why a skateboarder couldn't ride a spiral all the way down, even the near-vertical segments. It would take some pretty precise control of the spiral by the rider, and you couldn't go too fast or too tight of a radius otherwise the g-forces would be too much, and too large a radius obviously wouldn't be enough.

danf: Yeah, there's a pic in that link of a vert biker in the outflow. I've skated pipes like that. Big ones are nice and easy, but it takes a lot of work to keep the speed going and you go scary high but there's just more time to react to stuff. I want to see someone skate the vertical part of the funnel. :)
posted by loquacious 13 February | 16:33
I saw those pictures once before and they scared me too, partly because I thought it would be so difficult in a weird way not to just throw yourself down them (although I never thought of skating, which is a good idea; then you could probably skate back out too) to see just where, exactly, they would go. Like probably to another planet or a hidden valley full of dinosaurs or just another dimension where the sky is green and the grass is blue or a skating rink made of candy or something. Those things are like the original rabbit hole.
posted by mygothlaundry 13 February | 16:35
There's one of those intake funnels at the dam near my house. MGL is right - in person, it creates an almost compulsive desire to jump down it, especially when the water level is below the rim.

I also get that feeling when I'm standing on the edge of the damn, looking down, and the water is being released at full capacity. It looks like the best water ride in the world.
posted by muddgirl 13 February | 16:42


Some construction photos. . .
posted by danf 13 February | 16:43
I used to ride my bike by that particular "Glory Hole" as we called it quite often. Thats at Lake Berryessa, and just past the ride up to the dam is a hill called cardiac hill. I think it got it's name because it's steep, but someone actually did die on it of a heart attack during the Davis Double Century one year. Cardiac hill was a good 45 mile training ride starting in Davis. OH, and one of the Zodiac killer attacks took place near there too. I grew up in Davis, and seeing that would freak me out as a kid, but it is eerily calming as an adult. As to skating, I had friends when I was in Jr. High School which would climb up to the outflow and skateboard in there, and that was almost 30 years ago or so. They'd head up there with brooms, sweep out an area and skate in there.
posted by eekacat 13 February | 19:40
Glory hole is originally a Scots expression.
posted by dhartung 13 February | 22:25
About an hour ago I figured out how it would be possible to actually make a (much more shallow) funnel-shaped skateboard park feature that led into a wide vertical pipe that would allow you to do a 360 degree wall ride and then exit at the bottom through a tunnel or full-pipe leading to a half-pipe or bowl

Well, I just talked to my brother, who occasionally talks to the Dreampark skatepark guys - and he says they've mocked it up and figured out how to do it, but that it probably would NOT ever be built at any public parks because of how dangerous it would be.

There was also apparently a smaller "morning glory" spillway in Austrially that people skate, and supposedly they've also discussed the possibility of spiraling down the pipe and wallriding it down, but no one has dared it yet.
posted by loquacious 13 February | 22:58
I would think the greatest threat to one's safety in wallriding a spiral is that you'd get really, really dizzy.
posted by Five Fresh Fish 13 February | 23:07
Well, no, the thing is when you do a smooth wallride in a bowl or snakerun it feels like you're just riding a straight line. It's not so much like spinning in circles because "gravity" is "down" through the deck of the board and you're just following that fall line. This is how bowl riders can actually do 360 degree passes around a pool or bowl all on the wall - if the bowl has corner or some sort of ridable change in the curve in the wall - like a kidney bowl has, or a squarish pool. The corners or bumps in the pool become "hills" because the g-force is "down" through them, and the rider can pump off them to add more and more speed.

It would be pretty smooth providing there was just enough g-force and not too much that it got squirrelly, which is what was happening with the wood loops they've been doing, too tight and too much speed, but it's the only way to do a vertical loop. A horizontal loop in a funnel has equalized gravity and g-forces and all that.
posted by loquacious 13 February | 23:24
A while back there was a cool thread about Glory Holes at the blue place. Then and now they scare the hell outta me. I'm kinda like mgl, I'd be afraid that some sort of voodoo-vortex-alien-government-mind-control beam thingie would convince me that throwing myself into one would be the right thing to do. By just looking at the photos, I want to do it.

Halp meeeee...
posted by deborah 13 February | 23:47
I have no idea what you're talking about.

*straps on helmet and pads and starts skating toward California*
posted by loquacious 14 February | 00:00
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