yep. even marky mark was good in it.

Yes indeedy, even Marky Mark was good in it is just how I've been pitching it to people. Damn fucking good, amoral, senselessly violent old school Marty S. gangster flick.

how violent is violent? use this scale:

1 - guns are fired.
2 - guns are fired and people fall down.
3 - guns fired, people fall, you know where they got hit.
4 - gf, pf, you can see blood coming out.
5 - gf, pf, blood out, close-range.
6 - gf, pf, bo, c-r, and some torture scenes.
7 - gf, pf, bo, c-r, long-ass torture scenes.
8 - gf, bf, bo, c-r, l-a torture, and brains.
9 - gf, bf, bo, c-r, l-a torture, brains and guts.
10 - Pulp Fiction, 1st few minutes of Private Ryan, last scene from Hannibal.

(this chart was taken from the MPAA website.)

anybody here saw the original Hong Kong film? I did and I love it -- is the remake any better?

LT - 8 but without the torture. And what ramix said.