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03 May 2006

A question for all of those who drive to work... [More:]I'm working on a large scale highway project which will have pretty massive impacts. My question to you, the commuter, is:

a) Would you rather have a high impact (meaning one or two lanes closed during the business day) for a short period of time (up to two weeks, continuous) or

b) Would you rather have a lower impact (night work, with lane closures beginning at 7pm but open at 5am, plus 24-hour lane closures on weekends) but a longer period of time (four+ months).

Would it make a difference to you, a taxpayer, knowing that option b is a lot more expensive?

Thanks for your input.
oh crap, all that text was supposed to be inside. sorry.
posted by luneray 03 May | 15:33
I'd pick option 1 but that's because I know I can take a different route for those 2 weeks, or work at home a day or two a week.
posted by matildaben 03 May | 15:35
A. Make it quick and no full shutdowns.
posted by arse_hat 03 May | 15:37
Admin...can you fix this so that everything that's not the title is in a "more inside" tag? Thanks.
posted by luneray 03 May | 15:40
whichever version i encountered at the time would seem to me, while i was encountering it, to be the worst of all possible worlds. i would become irrational and stupid about it and would engage in nearly apopleptic screaming at the time, and then when it was all over i would forget about it completely.

so go with a, it's faster and cheaper. what i think doesn't matter.
posted by shmegegge 03 May | 15:40
Option A involves shutting five lanes down to either two or three, but not a complete shutdown. Although a complete shutdown would certainly be the fastest way to get the job done. :)
posted by luneray 03 May | 15:41
A
posted by knave 03 May | 15:44
Option A.
posted by amro 03 May | 16:04
I'll take A. Just make it quick!
posted by puke & cry 03 May | 16:19
b). Where I drive (the 405 in L.A.) losing two lanes during the day would be an absolute disaster and probably shut down the city.
posted by drjimmy11 03 May | 16:22
If you do (A), and promise us that it will take only a third of the time, cost two-thirds as much, and the workers would not have to deal with the danger of being killed by the nearby traffic, then I will accept.

The route I take to and from work is going from eight lanes elevated to 12 lanes depressed. This project is costing $100Million per mile, I believe, and is in the third year. Soon, soon, soon it will be done.

If this could have been done in 14 months, and all of us commuters would have to take another highway, or the bus, or the neighborhood streets, I would have reluctantly agreed.

Thanks for asking.
posted by sarah connor 03 May | 16:28
As a (mostly) reasonably sane person, I'd always choose option A, but unfortunately UDOT always manages to combine the high-impact of A with the cost and time of B.

*sigh*
posted by mr_crash_davis 03 May | 16:49
Until I moved back to working in the city and catching the train, I used to commute up and down the M1 (not the one on Britain) and closing two of the four lanes in peak times would have shut down the entire corner of the state, so that could never happen - they even do all the roadside maintenance at night.

But if the choice was two weeks high impact or four months low impact, I would take the two weeks. Main Roads seems to have got the night work thing pretty well sorted, though, so I think the time frame would be more like two weeks high impact or three weeks low impact. When they work at night, they can shut down more of the highway than they can during the day and reduce the speed limits.
posted by dg 03 May | 17:29
Another L.A. driver chiming in to say option B, even with the full knowledge of its expense. As drjimmy notes, 2 weeks of option A could be a disaster in whole swaths of LA, depending on the particular location and the relative lack of alternate routes (most of which are usually pretty heavily congested to begin with). And I say this as someone with two of the easiest, non-highway-oriented commutes in all of SoCal (4 blocks walking if I go to work from my house; a half-hour driving if I go from scodyboy's house in Studio City, which includes less than 2 miles on the Hollywood Freeway).
posted by scody 03 May | 19:57
If the project is I-5 between I-90 Interchange and Spokane Street, there aren't really that many alternate routes except directly through downtown, so it sounds like it would be a clusterfuck if you do option A. This is one point I am glad I don't work downtown.
posted by matildaben 03 May | 20:11
B. They did that with the 101 when I was commuting between Thousand Oaks and Van Nuys.
posted by deborah 03 May | 20:14
I grew up in L.A., and I picked B reflexively. I guess it depends on where this is; anywhere in L.A., option A would shut the city down and result in backups that could take days to resolve.
posted by ikkyu2 03 May | 23:31
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