MetaChat - RIP Rothko

Rothko was apain in the ass, and I disagreed with him a lot of the time, but he's no worse than many other people I could name. And he can be handled if you avoid acting on gut reaction.

posted by jonmc 07 February | 19:37

Aah don't shed a tear yet. He'll be back. We'll just see who guesses which nick is his first.

posted by Jimbob 07 February | 19:38

Is theatrical_matriarch taken??

I keed, I keed.

Some. :-P

posted by WolfDaddy 07 February | 19:44

Did Matt kill his Alex Reynolds account back in the day?

posted by pieisexactlythree 07 February | 19:51

I fed you since last fall, you rascal, you.
I fed you since last fall, you rascal, you.
I fed you since last fall,
Then you got your ashes hauled.
I'll be glad when you dead, you rascal, you!

posted by Smart Dalek 07 February | 19:53

yes, he did. Alex already had the second account that matt missed and then decided to let him stay. So it's a good bet that he has two of three more accounts.

posted by puke & cry 07 February | 19:53

I thought Metachat was not a place to bring disagreements from Metafilter?

posted by AlexReynolds 07 February | 19:54

I thought Metachat was not a place to bring disagreements from Metafilter?

Who's bringing disagreements? We're just chatting about something that happened on Metafilter.

posted by porpoise 07 February | 19:57

Okay, sure.

posted by AlexReynolds 07 February | 19:59

I don't see a disagreement - at least not yet. Hopefully there won't be one. You're always welcome to post here.

posted by iconomy 07 February | 19:59

Thanks, I appreciate it.

posted by AlexReynolds 07 February | 20:00

I didn't bring any disagreement here. I was simply making my footnote to MeFi history.

If you'd care to note, Alex, there isn't any spin or bias on my presentation of said moment in history. The comments and tone here have also been civil, as I hoped and expected.

Please don't start whinging here, too, and push me over the fence. I'm not your enemy, I'm not your oppressor, you're not my victim and I'm not going to dance the co-dependent watusi with you. And that is all I have to say on the matter.

posted by loquacious 07 February | 20:01

The comments and tone here have also been civil, as I hoped and expected.

Glad to hear it. If you'd care to note, I was just asking if usual policy will hold. Thanks for keeping it civil.

posted by AlexReynolds 07 February | 20:03

Metafilter. Come for the drama, stay for the curly fries.

posted by Doohickie 07 February | 20:09

I'm not going to dance the co-dependent watusi with you

The Schizophrenic Tango, Bipolar Bop, Borderline Boogie and Obsessive Limbo are open for business, however. Let's pair off. Except for the Social Anxiety Disorder Shuffle. That dance is solo.

posted by jonmc 07 February | 20:09

pffft

This was nowhere near as exciting as the orangeclock fiasco

posted by pieisexactlythree 07 February | 20:14

Eh, Rothko is a bit over the top, but why does Matt or anyone else care about comments in MeTa?

Matt shouldn't have banned him.

posted by orthogonality 07 February | 20:24

Not for the first time, IRFH has (IMO) the best comment of the thread. Or at least the best inconsequential comment, which means it's actually suitable for metachat linkage.

BTW, Google returns no hits at all for "pry it from my cold dead back", so congratulations on what appears to be a pretty original bon mot.

posted by George_Spiggott 07 February | 20:28

I don't want to sound sanctimonious, but I couldn't give half a shit about what happens over there. A lot of you do, and that's fine. You're as entitled to your investment as I am to my apathy. Yay!

Alex, you've never pissed me off here, and I'm sure you understand that this is a totally separate place. Here's hoping everyone keeps that separation of church and state in mind too. Anyhow...

*congenial handshake*

posted by mudpuppie 07 February | 20:29

I echo everything mudpuppie said.

posted by iconomy 07 February | 20:34

I echo the two previous bunnymen.

posted by jrossi4r 07 February | 20:39

Hypocrites.

Note: This comment was not from Alex. This account has been blocked. -taz

posted by Alex Reynolds 07 February | 20:57

I prefer hippopotomi.

posted by iconomy 07 February | 21:02

*sigh*

posted by AlexReynolds 07 February | 21:02

Those things are fucking deadly, mind you.

posted by selfnoise 07 February | 21:02

To whom are you referring? All I did was riff on mentall illness and dances.

posted by jonmc 07 February | 21:04

"Those things are fucking deadly, mind you."

That they are. Most deaths caused by animals in Asia result from hippo tramplings. The ironic part is, of course, that hippos only trample on people because they've been hiding in the water and some boat comes along and bumps into them and scares the shit out of them.

posted by kmellis 07 February | 21:05

That comment wasn't by Alex, and the account has been blocked.

posted by taz 07 February | 21:07

Pips said that she watched a nature show where a baby hippo decided he loved this elderly tortoise. The tortoise was annoyed at first, but now they are inseparable apparently. Some days I'm the hippo, Some days I'm the tortoise. Still other days, I'm the bits of slow hunter between the hippo's toes.

posted by jonmc 07 February | 21:08

jon, that's the cutest thing ever. She must be talking about the hippo that was left parentless by the tsunami.

posted by iconomy 07 February | 21:10

This is what I was referring to - too fargin' adorable...sigh.

posted by iconomy 07 February | 21:12

Slowest. Hippo. Ever.

posted by mudpuppie 07 February | 21:13

I just want to say that some hippos and tortoises know more about inclusive love than we do.

posted by WolfDaddy 07 February | 21:14

That's the one. He probably picked the tortoise because it was too slow to run away. Although, when I was a kid, a neighbor gave me a pet turtle. One day my mom said she took it outside she was hanging the laundry and the damn thing disappeared. I'm probably the only kid in American history who had a runaway turtle.

posted by jonmc 07 February | 21:15

Well, you know what they say about the tortoise and the hare. That's determination, jon.

posted by kmellis 07 February | 21:17

And welcome back, owillis. (I know he's been back in comments for aweek or two, but it's good see a FPP, even if is it kinda weak.)

posted by danostuporstar 07 February | 22:31

There was speculation that the hippo went for the tortoise 'cause it's kinda the same colour as a hippo.

Mudpuppie - church and state? So which one is Mecha?

That comment wasn't by Alex, and the account has been blocked.
?!

posted by porpoise 07 February | 22:41

This thread needs more Serena Williams.

posted by weretable and the undead chairs 07 February | 22:46

"alex reynolds" is an "AlexReynolds" imposter and has been banned from MetaChat, which is more or less unrelated Rothko's status at MetaFilter, so got kidnapped by Stefano (guess what? he hadn't really a priest (actually he had only posed as a (as happens a lot in everyday life). Marlena got he could implant and erase his memories at will Roman came back to town, and John was stunned in love with John, slept with him, and had and went back home to her family. The real back with the real Roman, but she was still been dead!), and was trapped in a dungeon, where die in a plane crash soon afterward. Or did Stefano had a microchip installed in John's brain so she?? Four years later, she awakened in an island priest as a ruse for stealing paintings). You see, dead for several months, then found alive, only to in the Caribbean, unaware how she had gotten there, to discover he really wan't Roman after all. John a baby girl, Belle. Marlena got divorced from Roman, It wasn't long before she was kidnapped and believed started to remember his past, and thought he was.

posted by danostuporstar 07 February | 22:49

this sucks...why isn't dios banned, and other trolls????

posted by amberglow 07 February | 22:53

Best. Thread. Summary. Ever.

posted by loquacious 07 February | 22:54

The sad thing is, I know exactly what dano is summarizing.

posted by bmarkey 07 February | 22:58

dano, my husband and I have always had a secret handshake in the event that one of us is kidnapped by Stefano DiMera and returns with a different face.

I suggest that everyone do that.

posted by jrossi4r 07 February | 23:00

The sad thing is, I know exactly what dano is summarizing.

Last week's episode of 'Soap'?

posted by trondant 07 February | 23:07

amberglow: Probably because dios and the others have plead mea culpa - if not at least once, multiple times.

Whether or not it was genuine or sincere I leave to the reader and personally pass nor offer any judgements.

But it is at the least an acknowledgement of wrongdoing. I don't think I've ever seen Rothko/Alex say something along the lines of: "Argh, sorry. I know I'm being annoying." Much less with a "I'm trying to change, sorry." attached to it.

With Rothko, I've only personally witnessed stuff along the lines of: *annoying behavior or comment* *people (ab)reacting* *more annoying behavior, along with comments about being persecuted* *people (ab)reacting even more, and more strongly* *more annoying behavior, attempting to justify previous annoying behavior, with further claims of being oppressed with people's local reactions to original bad behavior as a malformed example.*

It just never ends. How Rothko can't see that he pretty much single-handedly starts up this feedback loop is beyond me.

But, then, I can't really see if there's boogers hanging out of my nose without a mirror.

What Rothko should learn from this, if anything, is that the people around him are that mirror.

And if it's bad enough that I of all people would risk being late to work to simply to comment in that MeTa thread about how bad it is with Rothko, that should be a really nice, clean, flat, clear and extraordinarily well-lit mirror.

I haven't commented about an individual - nor have I even cared to - in ages, possibly months.

posted by loquacious 07 February | 23:12

trondant: you're close. It's actually "Days Of Our Lives".

How come Marlene never turned into Electra Woman and took Stefano out? I'll never understand that.

posted by bmarkey 07 February | 23:14

And to be TOTALLY and COMPLETELY fucking clear, my last post was NOT an invitation for anyone to talk about dios, ParisParamus, or anyone else.

I was just responding to amberglow's question. The username could have - and probably should have - been omitted, or considered irrelevant.

posted by loquacious 07 February | 23:14

serena?

posted by weretable and the undead chairs 07 February | 23:22

How come Marlene never turned into Electra Woman and took Stefano out? I'll never understand that.

NBC does not own nearly enough cheese cloth to turn back time that far, bmarkey.

Plus the demonic possession sapped her super powers.

posted by jrossi4r 07 February | 23:33

Although, when I was a kid, a neighbor gave me a pet turtle. One day my mom said she took it outside she was hanging the laundry and the damn thing disappeared. I'm probably the only kid in American history who had a runaway turtle.

After returning home from my first semester of college my parents explained the absence of our pet dog 'Henry' -- "Oh, we found a nice loving family on a farm with whom Henry is now living." Yeah -- right -- I'm sure he was put-down by the vet. Maybe your Mom was afraid you'd get some disease from that turtle!

posted by ericb 07 February | 23:36

Plus the demonic possession sapped her super powers.

That poor gal has just had the worst luck, hasn't she?

posted by bmarkey 07 February | 23:58

yeah jonmc, sorry to tell you but your turtle died.

posted by puke & cry 08 February | 00:01

yeah jonmc, sorry to tell you but your turtle died.

No. Sorry. Tough love required. Your Mom killed your turtle.

posted by ericb 08 February | 00:30

Evidence.

posted by ericb 08 February | 00:32

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posted by arse_hat 08 February | 00:45

What kinda dick goes and makes a fake ID here just to hassle somebody? Damn, but if the internet ain't fulla douchebags.

posted by klangklangston 08 February | 00:56

Man, I hate it when I miss a day or two at good ol' MeFi and MeCha. Lifetimes happen in just a few hours. Its amazing and not.

posted by fenriq 08 February | 01:08

Consolations regarding the turtle-murdering mom, jon. My mother did the same damn thing, but with my hamsters. "I thought they'd like to play and explore!" she exclaimed, "But, oh, they escaped off the sundeck!" and I believed her for many, many years.

Poor little Hanster und Griddle, sent off to die like vermin!

posted by Five Fresh Fish 08 February | 02:23

What kinda dick goes and makes a fake ID here just to hassle somebody? Damn, but if the internet ain't fulla douchebags.

I think there's no question that it's a douchebah who's still among us.

And to you, I say: You are a douchebag, asshole. Yeah, you. Dumbass.

Repent and never do it again, fuckhead.

posted by mudpuppie 08 February | 02:44

Tired: Internet Drama
Wired: Corgis!!!!

posted by cmonkey 08 February | 02:52

OMGWTF BABY CORGIS!!!

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posted by mudpuppie 08 February | 03:04

Rothko Corgis.
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posted by arse_hat 08 February | 03:10

Alex, I really appreciate your posts and comments, please post here since you're not wanted on MeFi anymore

posted by matteo 08 February | 05:22

since you're not wanted on MeFi anymore

That's not the conclusion I reached. Nor is it my opinion.

It's the behaviour not the person that's unwanted (for the mostpart).

I really hope Rothko emails Matt after some time away and makes his case for reinstatement. I also really hope that the time away pacifies some of the inner demons.

posted by peacay 08 February | 06:46

Corgis are fearsome fighting machines. I intend to create an army, just as soon as I have a place to live that allows pets.

True story: my mother named her Corgis Henry and Etta, so she can call them by saying "Henrietta!"

posted by selfnoise 08 February | 08:34

Are all those people - Marlena and Stefano et al, still on Days of Our Lives?? Haha! Too funny. I haven't seen it in at least 10 years. At one time I had a huge crush on Roman Brady.

posted by iconomy 08 February | 09:38

That's not the conclusion I reached. Nor is it my opinion.

It's the behaviour not the person that's unwanted (for the mostpart).

I agree with peacay.

posted by omiewise 08 February | 09:44

I used to visit MeFi frequently but lately I find myself here or other places far more often. There are arguments and name-calling even in the most innocuous FPPs. Which then spill over into MeTa. I have enough anger in my life, I don't need any more, thanks.

Am I the only one who's semi-abandoning the mothersite?

posted by tommasz 08 February | 11:40

I'm still reading it more than I should, but I've given up posting/commenting. Actually, I've mostly given up posting anywhere now that I think about it.

posted by PinkStainlessTail 08 February | 12:37

No, tommasz, you're not.

posted by Specklet 08 February | 12:38

tommasz, it's quite common.

posted by arse_hat 08 February | 12:47

Am I the only one who's semi-abandoning the mothersite?

I think there's a burnout factor for most people who contribute a lot. I have a feeling it's not quite the same if one is only lurking for a few years. I only lurked for about 1.5 years before I joined, so I don't know.

We're always saying it's getting worse, and I guess I think it is, too, but it's so common for people to have "everything's going to hell in a handbasket" belief that I am skeptical.

I've been posting much less lately. I haven't checked my contrib index, but it has to have gone down. One reason is that the blue holds less interest for me these days. I think it's a combination of it being more news/poli/filter (which may or may not be my imagination) and that the volume of posts has gone up (which certainly isn't my imagination). Sadly, like I've heard from other people, I'm on MeTa more than MeFi, which is almost certainly a bad thing. I am on AskMe more than I used to be, mostly because I put the RSS feed on my default page (which is a My Yahoo! page I've been using for--wow--almost ten years now).

And participation here must have some effect on amount of participation there. Probably.

posted by kmellis 08 February | 15:39

iconomy: back about eight or nine years ago, I had a girlfriend who made me watch that damn show. She would tape it during the day and play it back that night; if I wanted to continue "enjoying her favors", I had to watch it, too. (This goes a long way in explaining why she's an ex, actually.) As I recall, they killed off Stefano during that time - although death is never a permanent state in Salem, as we all know. I believe the actor who palyed him showed up in another soap within a week of Stefano's death. Marlena is there for life. She's sort of the soap opera equivalent of a franchise player.

selfnoise: Corgis are like sharks with little stumpy legs. They are relentless killing machines. At least Peanut, my mom's Corgi, is.

kmellis: there's a burn-out factor for lurkers, too. The only time I go there now is if I'm incredibly bored at work or someone here links to something there. In either case, I invariably get the hell out as soon as I can.

I've never had any desire to post anything there; as far as I can see, it's like putting on a meat tuxedo and jumping into the piranha tank. I think I've commented there maybe five times in the four years I've had an account. It had started getting ugly then, and it's just gotten uglier since. No thanks.

posted by bmarkey 08 February | 16:30

Corgis are the best things ever.

One day I will have a large house and an entire pack of corgis and I will give them each names like Edmund Parsimonious Winterthorn Blackbottom and Philomena Elizabeth May.

posted by cmonkey 08 February | 17:18

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