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20 January 2006
I just got 19! That makes me a genius, apparently.→[More:]Bored at work on a Friday? Take this quiz with me. I didn't want to post it till I was officially a genius, but I'm still working on it.
I was in Mensa (along with my dad and my brother) when I was about 15 through high school graduation. I suppose I could get back in under some sort of grandfather clause (or else using my GRE scores) if I wanted to, but I'm frightened of the level of sheer antisocial nerdiness I would probably encounter at the meetings. I'm sure if I took those tests now I wouldn't do so good - I am so much less smart than I was when I was a kid. I blame Teh Internets.
I got 19 and so absolved my self esteem, I think I might stop. You know I've never ever met anyone that volunteered that they were in Mensa without prompting who was not a huge idiot. I think this would have been more fun without the mensa trappings. But it is fun. Ok I'm off to do more after all.
Eh, 9. I felt bad, until I looked at the answers. Very arbitrary answers, apparently written for sports watching Christian South Africans.
(But I will admit, my success at trivia contests has declined precipitously with age. Part of this I think is general decline, part is that I now prefer to concentrate an a few subject areas of interest.)
Good thing there was no time limit. Cause I HAD to keep going till I got to 19. Then I quit. I don't live up to my potential, but I have a huge ego. All in all, fun.
heh. I don't believe that only 2 mensa members achieved full marks. And as ortho points out, I am definitely at an advantage coming from a commonwealth country, with my knowledge of its sports.
ortho, yes. At the bottom, in tiny print, it says "Believe it or not, this type of test can be a good estimate of intelligence (if you excuse the cultural bias)." Clearly not in any way a test of "intelligence".
No Matildaben
You said you were in mensa in a thread about a mensa test, which means that you are not a big idiot. I'm talking about people who would be like, "can you hand me that book, it's under my mensa card" and so on. Not mensans, just people who mensa drop, so to speak.
I'm talking about people who would be like, "can you hand me that book, it's under my mensa card" and so on. Not mensans, just people who mensa drop, so to speak.
I know someone who mensa-drops in AA meetings. Or at least he used to, until someone said to him "how fucking clever are you to end up in AA?"
Okay, I got to 30 before I gave up and looked at the answers. I only missed #s 28, 31, and 33. Turns out I would only have been capable of getting #28 because 31 and 33 were things I did not know.
I think the lack of a time limit turns this more into a "knowledge" test than an "intelligence" test. In about 3 hours, I was able to figure out all the ones I could've (except one), given my knowledge.
But, damn, was it a great way to kill the last three hours of work before my vacation! Later genii!
Guestion 24 is marked as wrong if you put the apostrophe in the right place. Some real geniuses put this POS together.
I got 21 and stopped, this is not an IQ test, and to call it culturally biased would be an understatement. #33? Sure I got it. Would a UC grad student from Korea? Probably not. And if he didn't does that make him less of a genius than me?
I only ever met one Mensa member who volunteered her status to me. She was my nursery school teacher, and she was canvassing my parents neighborhood a few years ago for some local political office or other. I remember her as being a good teacher, but as a politician, whew! She said to me, "Unlike my opposition, I'm very intelligent. I'm in MENSA."
I responded, "You're in menses right now? I'm not sure if I should invite you in; you might pollute the altar."
I got to 23 or so pretty fast, then I stalled at 27. I'm impressed with Gaspode's results.
I think that intelligence tests of any kind have some usefulness if you keep in mind that they are measuring a poorly defined and often mostly arbitrary subset of intellectual skills. I just think about this with a sort of "it measures what it measures" state of mind.
What I found most interesting about this test was the experience of how I discovered most of the answers. I would usually get the answer as I look back at one I had been considering a few minutes earlier. The minority were the result of exclusive concentration, most seem to have been processed in the background. It was a weird feeling when the meaningless phrase became, suddenly, obviously the answer. Did anyone else find this sort of strange?
I know someone who tells people they're in Mensa. I'm usually embarassed on behalf of people who like to mention their Mensa membership—I associate it with second-raters, although there are of course some members who are truly first-rate.
kmellis: I had a very similar experience. It reminds me of those 3D art posters - you have to focus on not focusing, or something like that.
The only strategy I was able to use at all was to try to think of numbers I encounter in daily life, then go look for a phrase in the list that matched it. Though, to be honest, this was mostly the case with the low-hanging fruit (baker's dozen, time conversions). But I never started with a phrase and willed the answer.
I just looked at the answers. Three of the four sports questions were three of the answers I couldn't get. Those I'd never have come up with. I probably would have gotten the other three—two of them I partially had. (That I couldn't get 28 is embarassing.) 19 seems arbitrary to me if it's not an aphorism, but I can see that people should be able to get it, anyway.
the last two I got were 10 and 20. And they are kind of similar, I think.
Most of the ones that I had to think about, I pretty much just tried to figure out what had that number. Oh yeah, 28 is kind of tricky, not because people don't know it, but it kind of doesn't fit in so much with the others.
Oh yeah, and I am not especially gifted with IQ tests - I suck at visuospatial processing and random pattern recognition.
Okay, I got all of them. I used google on a couple of the sports ones. Also, for #20 8 T on an O, I haven't figured out what they really want yet, but my answer is perfectly CORRECT! (8 tentacles on an octopus).