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23 November 2005

"Please stay out of any threads in anything I post from now on." OR ELSE!
post by: Smart Dalek at: 08:53 | 50 comments
Yeesh. He needs to take some time on the beach with a beer. Seems like maybe he's really on his last nerve after the dhoyt insanity.

I've got beer at my place, but the beach is a bit cold. Actually, it's snowing right now, so...
posted by selfnoise 23 November | 09:08
Yeah that was a bit over the top. But y2karl's absolutely right, fandango_matt's comment was totally useless trollbait.
posted by danostuporstar 23 November | 09:11
What I don't get is that there was this period, up until one of yesterday's Halloween-in-November threads, where PP really was just being totally ignored. He'd make a crazy comment, and the thread would just move on. It was great! I miss it.

And I can understand why y2karl was so frustrated. It shouldn't be about the usernames, and people should be able to ignore the most obvious, least redeemable trolls. But hey, it ain't a perfect world.
posted by selfnoise 23 November | 09:19
Karl may mean well, but he needs to remember the posters in the threads don't run his life. If someone posts an aside of some sort, it's not as if that person has violated Karl's private residence.

A weblog may be one thing, but a community site is a bit over the top. I've seen this behavior quite a bit on USENET, and I'm glad Karl caught himself afterward. I think, however, MeFi's due for another spate of flareups. Too many individuals have a vested need to FPP, or to make a firkin out of a flyspeck in as far as debating someone else's points. These circles of internet aren't the entire universe, after all...
posted by Smart Dalek 23 November | 09:20
Um...y2karl has a serious family problem at the moment. Irrespective of everything/anything, it would be definitely in order to give the guy leeway, benefit of the doubt and constructive rather than negative feedback/response/input for the next while or so.
posted by peacay 23 November | 09:21
When I say due, I mean "unprompted". There's certainly some troublemakers around, but I suspect a couple more members are near the breaking point.
posted by Smart Dalek 23 November | 09:23
or to make a firkin out of a flyspeck

A pressurized firkin?
posted by PinkStainlessTail 23 November | 09:23
It's so unusual for Y2Kook to get personal. Like this silly pissing match.

But I'm still buying Karl a drink when we meet.

Methinks MeFites are relying too much on deletion and the hovering banhammer. There's something wrong at MeFi and nobody's been able to figure out a solution.

The underlying problem appears to be a group-think enforcement ethic getting tangled up with the lack of effective negative feedback and too many users trying to modify each other's behavior. Plus the usual keyboard commando pile-on bullshit.

Maybe Matt should occasionally declare a thread a banhammer-suspended free fire zone and let the agressive nerds make complete fools of themselves with a total flamewar shitfest. It would at least be amusing.

Come to think of it, it would be a perfect experiment to analyze the pathological tendencies. Then we could vote for who was the biggest asshole, stupidest comment, award prizes (like highlighting the lucky winners names in bright colors for a week, month, year, etc.) And, of course, Matt and Jess would have the ability to arbitrarily rig the vote count anyway they wanted.

*chuckles evilly*
posted by warbaby 23 November | 09:39
I'm telling ya, the solution to all of this is a Mefi Meetup/Car Shoot. Old cars painted with things like, I don't know, Bush's face, gay marriage amendments, pictures of fat people, pictures of thin people, smokers' rights pamphlets, anti-smoking signs, pictures of war protestors, pictures of war supporters, etc will be rolled down the hill and everyone can shoot the shit out of 'em while screaming like madmen. We'll just keep shooting and screaming until everyone is spent.

And then we'll all make out.
posted by LeeJay 23 November | 09:51
It would be better to talk about this at metatalk; the thing is that people shouldn't be expected to have to check here constantly to see if they're being discussed.
posted by taz 23 November | 09:59
Yeah, that's true. Sorry.
posted by selfnoise 23 November | 10:01
As per usual, the "offending" comment has been deleted so there's no frame of reference and they apologized to each other. In the words of a famous web person, "Move along, nothing to see here..."
posted by KevinSKomsvold 23 November | 10:15
OK, but can we still shoot things and make out?
posted by LeeJay 23 November | 10:20
Do we have to make out with what we shoot? Cos like I'm not into that.
posted by jonmc 23 November | 10:23
You had me at "shoot things".
posted by KevinSKomsvold 23 November | 10:27
Methinks MeFites are relying too much on deletion and the hovering banhammer. There's something wrong at MeFi and nobody's been able to figure out a solution.

for my money, mathowie put his dick in the sausage grinder the very first time he 'sanitized' something. on that day he unwittingly committed to the execise of eternal vigilance coupled with flawless judgement. big mistake - he don't look much like Christ to me...
posted by quonsar 23 November | 10:27
Y2karl's brother is dying any day now and Karl is like himself, only much moreso. Give him some slack. I'm trying to.
posted by kmellis 23 November | 10:34
I won't make out cause I'm taken but if there is anything better in the world than shooting cars Jesus Mathowie kept it for hisself.

I got a hankerin for to put about a case of .45 hardball into a rusted out Pinto right about now.

posted by Divine_Wino 23 November | 10:37
...can we make out first?
posted by WolfDaddy 23 November | 10:44
So what were the deleted comments? Not that it matters. Karl has posted a lot of great stuff (in-between his incessant newsfilter posts) and deserves the benefit of the doubt. It is surprising to see him forget that the poster doesn't own the thread, or have any special rights at all in shaping the discussion that follows.

mathowie put his dick in the sausage grinder the very first time he 'sanitized' something. on that day he unwittingly committed to the exercise of eternal vigilance coupled with flawless judgement. big mistake


Yeah, exactly. He made himself the dad to whom we all go running, tattling on Susie or Biff cause they didn't play nice.The flagging system reinforces the expectation that Matt will come in and distribute perfect justice.
posted by LarryC 23 November | 10:46
Can somebody strip me and lock me in the trunk with a personal massager before the shooting starts? The danger sounds enticing.

see also
posted by danostuporstar 23 November | 10:51
This is the perfect place to talk about it.

I'm so sorry to hear about Karl's brother.

"There are too many people dying these days." My sister said that as an offhand comment a couple of days ago. She was talking about people we know. The last two weeks have been bad ones.
posted by warbaby 23 November | 10:51
I am going to agree wholeheartedly that censorship is bad in almost every case, except perhaps where you are deleting personal information that some nasty asshole posts about someone else, (address, real name). Putting yourself in that position also tends to have negative effects on your personality, generally.


I do think that in askme, it would be best if there was a collective decision to submit to some deletions (in the same sense that every time we have a staff meeting at work I have to spend some time saying "can we reign in the ADD a little and get this motherfucker done, please?") in the interest of keeping it useful. Which I think it is. Although I don't get much use out of it, but I find it fascinating.


I am still seriously ready to shoot up a car.



I'm so sorry to hear about Karl's brother.

Yeah, me too, that fucking sucks. Way too much dying going on. It offends me.
posted by Divine_Wino 23 November | 10:56
Maybe, in a time of stress like this, karl should hang out here rather than at the blue. Too many little vipers there who'll kick you when you're down. Fun trivialities might be just what the doctor ordered.
posted by jonmc 23 November | 11:01
A former girlfriend told me about how when she was a kid in rural Montana, the boys used to pull up at night in dozens of cars to the edge of the landfill, and, holding guns, stand by the car with one hand on the headlight switch. On a signal they'd all turn on their headlights on at once and start blowing away the rats that scurried for cover.

Is there some metaphorical equivalent we could do on MeFi?
posted by George_Spiggott 23 November | 11:03
little vipers who'll kick you
Intriguing image.
posted by Wolfdog 23 November | 11:04
Yeah, that's Yogi Berra high-quality incoherence there.
posted by kmellis 23 November | 11:15
Man if a viper tried to kick me I'd just stand there and laugh and laugh and be all "You ain't got no legs you stupid snake, come back and try to kick me in about 8 million years when the evolution kicks in, or send one of your lizard homeboys."

Then I'd shit myself because snakes give me the creepin' jimjams.


That having been said, there is many a down kicking viper on that site for sure.
posted by Divine_Wino 23 November | 11:21
Oooooh. Rat safaris. Good times. Good times.

If y'all come to my party, we can go shooting Sunday morning while the Xtians are still in church.
posted by warbaby 23 November | 11:23
...snakes don't need to eat your puny mammal limbs.
posted by WolfDaddy 23 November | 11:36
Uh, can someone fix that for me? Thanks everso.
posted by WolfDaddy 23 November | 11:36
Fix what? Your puny mammal limb?
posted by danostuporstar 23 November | 11:41
See that petard? It's mine. Dammit!
posted by WolfDaddy 23 November | 11:53
MeTa

Sheesh.
posted by warbaby 23 November | 11:56
What should it say, wolfdaddy?

...snakes don't ___________ your puny mammal limbs.

Fill in the blank!
posted by iconomy 23 November | 11:57
Real answer: "need"

Better answer: "need to eat"
posted by WolfDaddy 23 November | 11:58
ok
posted by iconomy 23 November | 12:01
Thank you dear.
posted by WolfDaddy 23 November | 12:03
Oh my.
posted by WolfDaddy 23 November | 12:17
Please delete the comment below this one.
posted by George_Spiggott 23 November | 13:25
warbaby -- thanks for calling out those militias. Fuck that pisses me off. If Canada had any decent planes I'd say we strafe the fuckers, peacefully, with petals and bonbons.

(Bunch of fucking wannabe slobbish jibbering mewling and puking prickholas crawling like chubby termites from a rotten trailer park. FUCK THEM)

ok, thats off my chest. cheers.
posted by rumple 23 November | 13:37
This is what I get for working in the kitchen on my Pre-Thanksgiving stuff...a big, fat ??????

So here is what I know. y2Karl makes a post on pre-Iraq war intelligence and then someone ? makes a nasty remark about karl's name? and karl says something nasty? and ?

OK I have to go cut up the rye and pumpernickle bread for the stuffing.
posted by Secret Life of Gravy 23 November | 14:23
SLoG, fandango_matt invited (literally) ParisParamus to come shit in y2karl's thread, y2karl went off on him.
posted by danostuporstar 23 November | 14:27
Hey! Consider my attempt to help retracted, you life-haver you.
posted by danostuporstar 23 November | 14:36
Stay tuned rumple, we'll be calling in the airstrikes soon.
posted by warbaby 23 November | 16:48
Hey! Consider my attempt to help retracted, you life-haver you.
posted by danostuporstar 23 November | 14:36

Ok, I formally return your attempt to help. On a silver platter. With a sprig of parsley.

And I am definitely NOT inviting anyone to come and shit in this thread. Maybe tomorrow, after I have a few drinks.
posted by Secret Life of Gravy 23 November | 18:45
Is this the thread to shit in? I got an invitation, but I couldn't really read the address.

Oh well, nobody's using this corner over here ---------------------------------------->
posted by yhbc 23 November | 19:00
Dammit! When are we gonna get some public toilets around here?
posted by kmellis 23 November | 20:40
toilet map
posted by arse_hat 23 November | 21:07
It would be better to talk about this at metatalk; the thing is that people shouldn't be expected to have to check here constantly to see if they're being discussed.

No, kidding. I never saw this thread until now. Man, what a pack of gossips.

It's so unusual for Y2Kook to get personal. Like this silly pissing match.

If you look at that thread, the person who starts calling names is you. Which you have done since with me twice now --first in the blue and now here. In threads where I have made no comment at that--you got a grudge going on there. But have I ever said anything about you since that thread you linked ? No.

But I'm still buying Karl a drink when we meet.

You want to talk trash about me behind my back and you want to buy me a drink, too ? I don't think so.
posted by y2karl 22 December | 01:05
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