When something that will make your teenage girl better understand her body gets your hackles up, chances are you are a complete fucking idiot.

I mean she owns a vagina, so it's not like she's never seen one.

Couldn't have said it better, teece.

And as for the argument that teenage boys will buy the magazine to ogle pussy: good. God knows boys need to learn about vaginas too.

And girls need to learn about penises, too. I'm sure there'll be plenty of volunteers to act as study aids.

I was thinking we could modify the Albertson's logo, make some tshirts, and go grocery shopping!

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I ♥ fandango_matt.

Teenage boys have the internet. Why would they want all that book-learning to get in the way of a good jackoff?

Volunteer study aids might revisit the bottom end of the learning curve a little too often for comfort. Girls learn, and graduate, and move on to a full life, while the study aid sees an endless line of novices on deck. Not that it's all bad, but it might become trying at times.

I think this would be one of those "be careful what you wish for..." situations.

Wow, that's awesome, fandango_matt.

Why would they want all that book-learning to get in the way of a good jackoff?

You forget what it was like being a teenage boy. When I was in the library, I used to read those Our Bodies, Ourselves hippy-dippy health books and get all horny. It's all good.

But you didn't have the internet, jonmc.
Personally, the Sears catalogue was my ticket to paradise.

That's true, jonmc. My folks gave me a picture book about sex when I was a lad. I promptly drew bondage outfits on all the girls, locked my door, and jacked off.

But he's right, I didn't have the internet.

fandango_matt created the greatest stfu n00b image. thx, f_m.
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Even with the internet, I sometimes get turned on reading women's health websites or even fashion advice. It don't take much for us tripods.

I call upon the blood of Jesus to cleanse this carnal thread of its iniquity.

fandango_matt, you are my hero.

Wow, I didn't know that was a fandango_matt!

The STFU Noob Doggies? I wish I could take credit for that masterpiece, but I cannot. The Albertson's Vagina logo is all mine, though.

Oh, well, that's pretty frickin' awesome too.

"I mean she owns a vagina, so it's not like she's never seen one."

Sadly, although I earestly hope this isn't as common as it once was, a surprisingly large number of women have never even seen their own vagina.

Water, cat food, drain cleaner, sandwich. I hate walmart.

kmellis, seriously, you must be shitting me. I can see not wanting to admit this in polite conversation, but the sheer force of childhood curiosity points to the contrary.

Besides that, there's adult curiosity and pride in self. Mine is very important to me and I need to make sure she's happy, healthy not to mention attractive in her own special way.

I admit that my exptrapolation may be in error, but damn, say it ain't so!

And before things get too deep, this is for melissa may: NENE!!

No, I'm serious. I'm not sure of the rigorous studies of this, but there's quite a bit of anecdotal evidence for it. Up until recently, and probably still with many people, children were taught not to touch or examine their vaginas. Anecdotal evidence you can find in the "Vagina Monologues" and elsewhere. Especially with women above a certain age, it's not uncommon that they have never looked at the "private parts" and are essentially ignorant about it. My great-grandmother thought until my mom corrected her not too long before she died, that she peed from within her vagina. She didn't know about her urethra.

I'm pretty sure kmellis is right. I've read that it's true, and more importantly, I know a lot of women, and a lot of them are stupid about their own bodies. They won't use tampons because it's "icky" to touch themselves. And so on and so forth.

Well, seeing one's vagina is a little more difficult than seeing one's vulva. I daresay there are plenty of women that haven't seen their vagina.

Gaspode, I get your point, but still, all it takes is a freaking mirror. It's not like I'm expressing surprise that most women don't own their own set of speculums and whip them out on a regular basis to get up close and line of sight personal with their cervixes.

It's just that outside of basic anatomy and biology, I don't feel that anyone should know my body better than me. The pragmatic fact is that it's the only one I've got and there's no reason why I shouldn't know it well as I possibly can. It's also not a matter of not feeling shame or embarrassment, but that I feel greater shame or embarrassment in ignorance than in knowledge and even that is usually eclipsed by curiosity.

On the other hand, it wouldn't be the first time or way I've viewed my body in terms of a personal, living science experiment, so perhaps I shouldn't be all that surprised.

"It's just that outside of basic anatomy and biology, I don't feel that anyone should know my body better than me. The pragmatic fact is that it's the only one I've got and there's no reason why I shouldn't know it well as I possibly can."

Yes, well I can't possibly agree with you more. The reason I mentioned this is because there's few things related to women's rights that anger me as much as how women have been alienated from their sexual anatomy. But just because it's extremely outrageous that this has been the case for so many women doesn't mean that it's not true.

I think it's much less true now than it was. But you really should put things into perspective. Fifty years ago, most American women were not orgasmic and did not masturbate. It's hard to believe that young women didn't examine their own bodies intimately, but for a certain subset of the population where there was a lot of religious mumbo-jumbo and whatnot, they simply were told not to even touch themselves at all.

Or, here's another thing to put things in perspective. You only have to go to the early to middle part of the last century to find total hysterectomies as a widespread involuntary "treatment" of, um, sexually promiscuous women and such.

It's hard to overstate how deeply and widely sexism against women is across all human societies and how bad it has been in our cultures very recently. Not being familiar with the details of one's primary sexual anatomy? Not so hard to believe.