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07 October 2015

I need to keep my grammar nazi membership current, can you help?[More:]According to a Boston Globe article today about South Carolina:

"As the sun finally shined, residents were finally able to..."

And a commenter said:

Anyone at the Globe have a comment on the apparent ban on past-tense verb forms we older readers all learned in school?

The sun didn't finally "shined," it "shone." An Olympic diver never "dived" off a high board, he "dove." Gronk never "strived" to reach the end zone dragging two would-be tacklers, he "strove."

I've seen this new "habit" throughout the Globe for at least the past several years, so it must be specified in the paper's style handbook.

What gives? Is this supposed to be "simplified English"?

What say you, bunnies? Halp!
posted by Thorzdad 07 October | 15:18
Well, there are lots of grammar blogs that take the commenter's side, at least as far as shined/shone.
posted by JanetLand 07 October | 15:24
posted by Senyar 07 October | 15:57
I've always thought of it as "the light shone over the city" shone being the past tense of shine in the emitting light sense. "The man shined his shoes before going to bed" with shined being the past tense of shine as in polishing something. I find that common usage has over the last 20 years or so moved to shined as the past tense in the emitting light sense and I find I am using it that way myself.
posted by arse_hat 07 October | 16:53
Shoney's (shiny!)

I am so sorry.
posted by oneswellfoop 07 October | 18:17
Even though Germany finally drops 20 rules for the the umlat or verb tenses or something, I'd like to note that ending sentences on a preposition is all well and good but this is a freaking abomination.
posted by ethylene 07 October | 21:52
posted by bearwife 07 October | 22:33
I would totally use "shone" there, but I'm not SUPER confident in my choice.

For what it's worth, I have also retired the term "grammar nazi" in favour of the term "grammar aficionado" because I think it's high time we stopped trivializing the suffering levied by the Nazis by tossing that word around. Just a suggestion.

I also have a REALLY hard time spelling aficionado.
posted by richat 08 October | 11:12
Hmmm. "Aficionado" doesn't quite do it for me, it's not crazy enough. What would be better? Nut? Supernerd? Police might work.
posted by Melismata 08 October | 12:51
Grammar Hammer, surely.
posted by JanetLand 08 October | 12:54
Grammar hammer is GOOD. And, I can appreciate that aficionado lacks a certain ZEAL.
posted by richat 08 October | 13:13
Grammar Hammer sounds like the moniker for a nerdy wrestler and I love it.
posted by msali 08 October | 15:48
I'm not sure things like nazis and Hitler can be trivialized in Western culture at this point, that's why they're invoked as a form of transgressive humour, unless you're saying people don't know what they refer to any more and everything is all considered different versions of dick now... which really pisses me off in so many ways, not the least of which is the waste of comedy in the great dumbening.

Oh, man, now I am pissed. Stupid people ruin everything.
posted by ethylene 08 October | 16:36
Yes! Grammar Hammer!

"Shone!" the Grammar Hammer announced, in clanging tones.
posted by bearwife 08 October | 17:07
Shone, I'd use it,'s an irregular past tense and the language is moving away from that in the interest of simplification, so I wouldn't sweat it. Us poetic types can read our Longfellow and Shakespeare and King James and enjoy it forever.

I'm over Nazi-dom, so now I revert to frameworks. What's the style sheet? If the Globe's style sheet says "Shined," then great, shined it is. My personal style sheet would not endorse it, but that isn't relevant to the Globe. So I guess this means I'm a grammar relativist, and I'm fine with that. As I age I make my peace with my inability to enforce absolutes and control expressions.
posted by Miko 08 October | 21:49
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