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22 January 2012

Boogie Man: The Lee Atwater Story I just saw this documentary. What always strikes me is how long these people have been around.[More:]

And how long 'cultural resentment against the elites' has been working well for the GOP in the south since the late 50s. Cheney, Atwater/Rove the whole lot of them -- Newt Gingrich -- were adults involved in politics in the Nixon and Reagan eras and they were back on top in the GWB era. On the Democratic side this documentary has Terry McAuliffe discussing the '88 and '92 campaigns and you can just tell, you can tell that although he's easygoing he's upset about the Dukakis '88 campaign. I used to get this visceral sense of hurt about old campaigns from e.g. Bill Clinton's autobiography too (here I found the quote: "Lee Atwater and company went after him like a pack of rabid dogs")

Another example is, I used to find it just remarkable how many members of the intellectual left have a hangover from the pre-50s Stalinist vs anti-Stalinist debates (which essentially gave us early neoconservatism by splitting off many liberals from the 'left' and made them cold warriors.)

I can't help but think there's something not-so-great about people who were 20 years old in the 50s coming slowly into the establishment and fighting the same fights 50 years later as the world changes all around them. I don't think they can really 'see' what's going on outside of really calcified lenses. Add to the fact that older voters wield a huge amount of electoral power compared to younger voters just by virtue of turnout and you have a recipe for entrenched bitterness and empowered cluelessness.

Now, people live a long time and that's a good thing, as is the ability for a culture to have people with deep experience and long term temperaments around, but it's important for everyone to be ideologically nimble in response to circumstances I think.
Well, why would they want to be nimble? They haven't needed to abandon the strategy because it's working beautifully. Their guys have held onto the kind of power they want for nigh on 50 years now, and they've produced a new generation that sucks it right up along with them. It's a winning strategy. They suck but they're not dumb.
posted by Miko 23 January | 01:12
I agree, Miko, and I'd take it even one step further in that not only are they maintaining the strategy, but they're refining it to the point where we have the current "us vs. them" system. Sucks no matter what side you're on.

It is funny how names of people in power keep coming back to haunt us. People from the Clinton administration are showing up in the Obama administration. And, yeah, some of the republican names go WAY back.
posted by eekacat 23 January | 09:01
Ironically, after his defeat to JFK, Nixon was considering courting the black vote (as opposed to Goldwater's plan) but within a couple years that had all gone out the door

I wasn't just trying to complain about republicans though; I just don't know as much about any other country's politics. In a way there's a natural sediment that sets into you just as a human being: I've only been big into politics for 10-12 years or so but I have my little resentments already; I'm mad about the misrepresentation that was the Dean Scream, or the Swift Vets, etc. So you can't be in an environment for decades without having differing camps and figurative battle scars. But it's also true that, if you look at politics in many parliamentary systems, the same people might be around but the ground shifts underneath them so their old dramas don't hold that much currency anymore.
posted by Firas 23 January | 10:41
As far as the US goes, though, these guys tap into racial and class fears and resentments and that hasn't shifted near enough to make a difference.
posted by Miko 23 January | 21:29
*siiigh* Sixteen tons and whaddaya get? || Corgi Puppies in Pajamas

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