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14 April 2009

The Great Gatsby, relationships, society (**spoiler!!1**)[More:]

So when I (finally) read that damn book a few weeks ago I thought there something profound in the ending: that nobody shows up to this guy's funeral, despite all sorts coming to his parties..

I tried to think about Gatsby then for a moment, but he was already too far away, and I could only remember, without resentment, that Daisy hadn’t sent a message or a flower. Dimly I heard someone murmur “Blessed are the dead that the rain falls on,” and then the owl-eyed man said “Amen to that,” in a brave voice.

We straggled down quickly through the rain to the cars. Owl-eyes spoke to me by the gate.

“I couldn’t get to the house,” he remarked.

“Neither could anybody else.”

“Go on!” He started. “Why, my God! they used to go there by the hundreds.”

He took off his glasses and wiped them again, outside and in.

“The poor son-of-a-bitch,” he said.


I mentioned this idea to my dad a few days ago, to accentuate a point, and it went over well—but upon reflection I think it's unnatural that this would actually happen.

Gatsby's problem was that he wasn't all that engaged with his guests either right? They didn't know who he was, what he did, where he came from.. he lied to them, was cold to them, didn't care for them. So the problem is not that he threw all these parties and nobody remembered him but that those type of summer parties are just status marker type affairs.. you need to follow up and follow through.

And even if you're a distant type, even a disgraced type, this phenomenon doesn't really happen. I mean, I expect a lot of people to turn up to Bernie Madoff's funeral. What do you think?
I never really thought of it that way, Firas - that the spectacle of Gatsby's death would make it more likely that random gawkers showed up at his funeral. But thematically, Gatsby has to die alone (or mostly alone, if we count the narrator), so I suppose Fitzgerald sacrificed reality for dramatic intent.
posted by muddgirl 14 April | 09:25
Yeah. So I wasn't thinking about Gatsby's funeral per se but about building real relationships just by hosting people.. I think it's very possible.
posted by Firas 14 April | 09:34
Madoff is infamous, Gatsby is aloof.

Most people that are invited to such parties want to believe they are special and close to the host, or at least they want to be viewed this way. The same with a funeral. They will go just to look like an insider. Nobody wants to look like an insider at Madoff's funeral, but you know what I mean.

I don't know about building close relationships through hosting. I could say hello and goodbye to my many guests and never get to know them.
posted by LoriFLA 14 April | 12:36
Gatsby wasn't exactly disgraced, there are a lot of class issues at play here. He was new money, with a ton of new money friends that don't respect the quiet traditions of the old guard. His parties were opulent and garish and those kinds of people attended them.

The lack of attendees at the funeral shows a lack of respect, and how, though Gatsby tried so hard to make himself into something to get Daisy, he was never more than a dalliance.

I love this book, btw. I read it once a year.
posted by frecklefaerie 16 April | 15:30
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