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10 April 2008

This thread is over 30 days old, and has been closed for archival purposes (Warning, longest thread in metafilter history) [More:]
This morning I felt a little empty inside upon not seeing my family white box in the gray. Oh how a long strange trip it's been.
I think that we should post to this every morning and see how long the mods here let it survive. . .
posted by danf 10 April | 11:48
Wow,that thread made firefox spin for two or three minutes before it was done loading.
posted by octothorpe 10 April | 11:53
It's funny how after a while you get used to the long load times.

And how the rest of the internet seems freakily responsive.
posted by cortex 10 April | 12:02
I could not see how many comments. Did y'all break the comment counter?
posted by danf 10 April | 12:04
3647, danf. It's right there up at the top.

also: FAMILY WHITE BOX
posted by cortex 10 April | 12:05
I made a couple comments early on in that thread (and got 15 favorites, OMG!) and while I followed it the whole way, I didn't make any comments in the tail-end. I kinda feel like I missed out on something now that it's closed. :(
posted by mullacc 10 April | 12:25
I miss it.
posted by cortex 10 April | 12:36
FAMILY WHITE BOX

It really has become such a thing. Spending time with Cortex, LobsterMitten, Wendell, dersins, languagehat, et all, really just made it a fun little group. Again reminds me of the weirdos I used to hang out with smoking cigarettes in highschool.

On preview: I miss it also.
posted by mrzarquon 10 April | 12:38
I went to type a comment half an hour ago but it was GONE. I was very sad when it dropped out of recent activity - why was that anyway? It's been fun watching you all jerk off.

My comment was:

Yo-oh heave ho!
posted by goo 10 April | 12:40
Is that really the longest thread?
posted by iconomy 10 April | 12:42
(if so I'm glad I awarded it The Spool)
posted by iconomy 10 April | 12:45
I was very sad when it dropped out of recent activity - why was that anyway?


My understanding is that threads stay in recent activity for 30 days, but close after one calendar month. In a calendar month with 31 days, then, they're open for a day longer than they stay in recent activity.

I miss it already.
posted by dersins 10 April | 12:49
Wow, I feel like a

.


I didn't comment much toward the end, but I did read it every day. And I felt like I was meeting all y'all at the coffee maker for a little 10:30 break-time check-in. It had that feel of being chattily removed from the overall seriousness of work, where 'work' is the rest of MeFi.

Well done, folks. Well done.
posted by Miko 10 April | 12:50
Is that really the longest thread?


Longest by far.
posted by dersins 10 April | 12:52
The infamous 9622 thread was beat by almost a thousand comments atleast most of those being made the last two days or so. And the 9622 thread was before the archiving standards were put into place, so it was open much longer.
posted by mrzarquon 10 April | 12:55
Thanks, dersins. Most comments in an AskMe: What is this creepy site advertising?
posted by box 10 April | 12:57
And the 9622 thread was before the archiving standards were put into place, so it was open much longer.

9622 *in the blue* was before threads were archived. 9622 *in the grey* was closed after a month, hence the whole longboat thing. /pedant
posted by danostuporstar 10 April | 12:58
It never finished loading for me, so it must be infinitely long.
posted by Daniel Charms 10 April | 12:59
9622 *in the blue* was before threads were archived. 9622 *in the grey* was closed after a month, hence the whole longboat thing. /pedant


Both of which were beaten soundly.
posted by mrzarquon 10 April | 13:04
And nicely organically too. It didn't seem nearly as forced as the middle of 9622(grey) where it felt, for a couple of days there, that the goal was simply to beat 9622(blue). (I say this as the sock-puppeteer of a proud longboater.)

"Beaten soundly", though, seems like it was a competition to some folks. Which is cool too.
posted by danostuporstar 10 April | 13:15
So who's registering 15931.org?
posted by iconomy 10 April | 13:17
would it just be one continuous thread?

"Beaten soundly", though, seems like it was a competition to some folks. Which is cool too.

I just like the phrase. "Whose comment number was also surpassed" doesn't have the same ring to it.
posted by mrzarquon 10 April | 13:28
Thanks, dersins.
posted by goo 10 April | 14:00
Man, I'd forgotten that the Givewell thread cleared so many comments organically, though. 1400+ is a hell of a go.

Also, bewteen the closure of 15931 and me waxing about Aural Times in the "internet moments" thread a ways up the page, I'm feeling kind of stupidly nostalgic and sad all a sudden.
posted by cortex 10 April | 14:33
The memories. If only there were a t-shirt to remember it by.
posted by drezdn 10 April | 14:39
Sigh. Bittersweet.
posted by LobsterMitten 10 April | 15:54
It's nice to do a biggish thing just for the hell of it. Lately I only seem to do smallish things for the hell of it, and it's not the same.
posted by LobsterMitten 10 April | 15:55
9622 *in the grey* was closed after a month, hence the whole longboat thing.

This is not true, as far as I can tell. It was opened June 6, closed Aug 16.
posted by LobsterMitten 10 April | 15:59
It was opened June 6, closed Aug 16.


I believe that what you are seeing are the remnants of an exploit some people discovered that allowed them to post to closed threads. See here for more evidence of it.
posted by dersins 10 April | 16:21
Didn't people figure out a way to post to the closed thread on the second longboat?
posted by drezdn 10 April | 16:56
15931.org has been registered, I have some minimal hosting space to put it up on. Any suggestions?
posted by mrzarquon 10 April | 17:34
dersins: huh. curious.
posted by LobsterMitten 10 April | 17:57
mrz, hee hee...
I can't even contemplate that yet; must regain life. But my mental image of you is now the dude in a hood at the back of the boat, banging a drum to keep all the rowers in rhythm.
posted by LobsterMitten 10 April | 17:59
I am kind of tempted to make it a 300 comment system, with the family whitebox on it. That will just keep a list of 300 comments (301 pushes comment 1 off, and becomes comment 300, etc.) so it would be an ad infinitum longboat. A longboat training treadmill of sorts.
posted by mrzarquon 10 April | 18:06
(oh, but it would keep counting the comments, and probably just display the last 300 comments posted)
posted by mrzarquon 10 April | 18:07
the remnants of an exploit some people discovered that allowed them to post to closed threads.

Yeah, languagehat's last comment was the last comment ... and it was perfect. And we fucked it up, regretably. I glad he got the last one in 15931. (The opposite trick of posting to a future thread I don't regret at all though, even if Matt hated me for it. mendel's reaction was just so perfect.)


A longboat training treadmill of sorts.

Dude, that is hardcore. Would the old comments just disappear into the bit bucket, like the grains of a sand painting? That would be cool, if unsettling.
posted by danostuporstar 10 April | 18:57
I am tempted to have them disappear forever, means all I would have to do is maintain a list of 300 elements, instead of a forever growing dataset that I would have to keep running fast.

It would also make it like a giant etch-a-sketch
posted by mrzarquon 10 April | 19:12
It would also make it like a giant etch-a-sketch


Love it.

Do it!
posted by dersins 10 April | 19:21
Aw, I'm a big fan of archives. You could just flatfile everything older than three hundred, though.
posted by cortex 10 April | 19:28
I just have to get through my "learning python book" first (it will be my first experiment for web scripting in N many years, you all will be my guinea pigs).

cortex- i was think I would flatfile the output, and folks could just download the raw lists if they really wanted, but i don't know how I would want to make that available (would everyone want all their bathroom wall scribbles archived and available for all eternity? or atleast the internet?)
posted by mrzarquon 10 April | 19:30
that's genius. yes. also it would keep some of the built-in "hey let's reach numerical goal x" urgency, toward the 300 mark anyway.

If there was something that someone really wanted to keep they could copy it for themselves.
posted by LobsterMitten 10 April | 19:34
A fair concern. The big rolling wipe isn't unreasonable, I just have a wacky archivist bent.

I suppose you could keep the flatfile as a personal treasure and disclose portions of it upon request to those who see the merit in having such a thing. Or just use it as a private data source for a markovian mascot who would then contribute comments to the rolling 300 now and then.
posted by cortex 10 April | 19:35
a markovian mascot who would then contribute comments to the rolling 300 now and then.

That, sir, is sexier than Brion Gysin.
posted by danostuporstar 10 April | 19:45
it should maybe say on each newly refreshed page who had the last comment in the previous page.
posted by LobsterMitten 10 April | 19:47
Well, I've already planned to start the comment numbering at 3648, and to keep it continuous. You don't shake it to wipe the board, it will just display the last 300 comments (or some number, but it would be a rolling SPARTA like this).

I'm hoping matt would be cool if I stole the grey theme from metatalk for it.
posted by mrzarquon 10 April | 19:48
ooo, yeah, markovian bot interjecting like a sigh from the world spirit. Maybe it would be the voice of the thread itself, namely 15931?
posted by LobsterMitten 10 April | 19:49
ah
posted by LobsterMitten 10 April | 19:49
i realize now that this is already growing outside my coding knowledge and skills, so if other folks want to participate some foo, contact me on gmail under this same name.


I could seed the bot with the contents of the existing 15931 thread actually.
posted by mrzarquon 10 April | 19:52
er, contents of the existing 15931 thread as its starting seed, and all future comments adding to it.
posted by mrzarquon 10 April | 19:53
I'm hoping matt would be cool if I stole the grey theme from metatalk for it.

I steal shit from mefi like all the damn time. Sometimes I sneak into Matt's garage and try to teach myself to do trick on his bikes when he's sleeping.

You'll be fine.

I could seed the bot with the contents of the existing 15931 thread actually.

Brilliant. Simple, keeps the bot honest.
posted by cortex 10 April | 19:59
Would the allowed tags be the same as the set currently allowed on mefi?

I miss <big> so much, I'd have her even over <img>.
posted by danostuporstar 10 April | 20:00
Also: wordcloud for 15931.
posted by cortex 10 April | 20:02
I'll have to make sure I keep myself on task, and see what I can have done by the weekend. Probably something very basic. doing advanced things like user accounts and histories is a whole other thing. Let alone creating markov2


So, playing with markovfilter, it gave me this line, which I think is amazing:

I drove from CT to Seattle with a false sense of daring
posted by mrzarquon 10 April | 20:10
Heh. Poetry.

Just worry about the basics. Make it possible to post a comment. With a freeform username field. Keep 300 of them. (Or 5, for testing). Bam.

I'd be happy to provide the markov side of things, if I'm able.
posted by cortex 10 April | 20:40
The first basic thing is up (i cribbed some php from someone else). This is very basic, and will probably be swarmed with spam bots pretty soon, but it should hold us over for a wee bit.

15931.org
posted by mrzarquon 11 April | 00:12
Thanks, just made the change in my profile and added this in place of the Mushroom thread, which was the longest one for some time prior to this one.
posted by hadjiboy 11 April | 01:28
Here is a silly temporary one-off before I go and build a proper general thread-centric markovfilter variant:

15931filter

Note: the fields do nothing.
posted by cortex 11 April | 09:08
Also: wordcloud for 15931.


OMG I am SO HUGE in that word cloud.

I feel so important!
posted by dersins 11 April | 11:06
aww, and i've already broken it. I am investigating.
posted by mrzarquon 11 April | 11:31
more like incestigating amirite
posted by cortex 11 April | 14:54
I'd like to thank mrzarquon for sending me over here; I was feeling an aching void, and this assuages it a bit.

Yeah, languagehat's last comment was the last comment ... and it was perfect. And we fucked it up, regretably. I glad he got the last one in 15931.

Thanks for that -- the pain was intense at the time, but it faded, and getting the last comment in this one totally wiped it away. Life is good, the longboat is immmortal.

Now to investigate 15931.org...
posted by languagehat 11 April | 16:42
Man in Skirt Urged to Change His Wardrobe || This disturbs me a lot. . .

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